The NRL have stated on many occasions that expansion will not happen until all of their existing clubs are fincially secure....so if that is the case expansion will never happen.
Key question is what is the definition of financially secure ?
The NRL have stated on many occasions that expansion will not happen until all of their existing clubs are fincially secure....so if that is the case expansion will never happen.
This would be my definition.Of course there are no guarantees in life.
Long term financial commitment by the NRL.Just like the fumblers have done with their clubs.
Regular break even yearly accounts, rather than continual losses.
A membership base and/or crowd of 20,000 avg.
Playing out of decent facilities.
IOW clubs also have to get their acts together.
I do note when the AFL expanded with the relocation of Swans and Lions,they had SFA competition from other codes in Melbourne.They had the money on hand to expand to the GC and GWS.And media compliant sycophants to assist.
The NRL has already sliced the Bears and joined 4 clubs together in Sydney,and Sydney has competition from AFL 2 teams ,A League 2 and the Tahs 1.North Sydney and the CC with its large population is bereft of an NRL team.
The NRL needs to spell out all major expenses against all forms of income,noty only to the clubs but to the public.
If the NRL spend $7m on supporting player education, that is a relevant necessary expense.
If they lost X amount in an All Stars game ,that is a relevant expense.
Lol, expansion around 2056 then.
If you keep on your whining, then I'm more than happy with 2056.
As a fan of a small club I am not surprised you'd be more than happy to see the NRL remain as is.
How Expansion order should go
Central Coast Bears
Newtown jets
Coffs Harbour
St.gorge Illawarra split both teams in nrl
CQLD
Redcliffe dolphins
Ipswich jets
Wellington orcas
Christchurch Bulls
Fiji
PNG hunters
Adelaide
Mackay
Sunshine Coast
Cairns
Tasmania
NT
English team
Singapore
Perth
A growing club that actually exists.A club that had 70,000 supporters at the G/F,when many said it would not fill the stadium.A club whose membership last year was a record and is set to surpass it easily next year.A club that own its own ground, has plans for expansion.A club involved in a $400n development, with rental income coming from retail and part profits from residential unit sales.
A club with all seating sold for 2017 and all sponsors boxes ditto.
A club that had the 5th most valuable brand for a sport club, for its major sponsor in this country in 2016.
Yeah that small club LOL.
PS>I'm more than happy for the code to expand,I'm just not here to bow or do the bidding of whiners.
Your right should definitely cut Perthnot enough talent
Your right should definitely cut Perth
Sharks are a small club, yep you've got all those things but doesn't change your place in the world. Keeping the NRL small benefits the suburban clubs like the sharks and ensures they stay relevant and able to win games, I'm surprised you want to see expansion given this.
Like the great suburbs of Brisbane,Melbourne,Newcastle,Townsville,Auckland,Canberra,Gold Coast.
Cry me a river.
The financials which everyone is fighting over now( for their slice) are not there, they sure as hell "ain't " there for expansion ATM.
Games not big enough or strong enough to have a perth club. Best stick to the suburbs until it grows up.
Like the great suburbs of Brisbane,Melbourne,Newcastle,Townsville,Auckland,Canberra,Gold Coast.
Cry me a river.
The financials which everyone is fighting over now( for their slice) are not there, they sure as hell "ain't " there for expansion ATM.
As a life long Cronulla Sharks fan, I've got to say i completely disagree with Taipan.
The Sharks are a small club. We are absolutely a successful club, and very financial stable, but we cannot possibly claim to be a big club. The potential in Perth is much bigger than the support the Sharks currently enjoy. We are based in a small geographic area, and while we enjoy incredibly loyal support, our fan base is one of the smallest in the NRL. I'm not sure whether you live in the area or attend a lot of sharks games, but the support in the Shire is minimal. We can't throw this year, or next year's stats in anyone's face. Wait until 2018, and 2019 to see whether our club has truly grown. Our average attendance in 06 was over 16,000 people. It was 14,500 this year. On the bus to the preliminary final, everyone was on their phone searching up the words to 'Up Up Cronulla'. Even my best mate, loyal Roosters supporter knew the words, but the Sharks 'faithful' didn't.
We've got to look at growing our game, and we are not going to do that by investing in the Shire. I absolutely agree with you, the Sharks are a necessary part of the NRL. If the NRL loses the Sharks, we lose the Shire. AFL will pop in and gladly take it, like they did North Sydney. I disagree with people who think relocation, or culling clubs is the answer. We are beyond that. But we can't be limited to a small game mentality. Perth could potentially have had a 20 year old franchise today, had we invested in the Reds. Perth could have a strong junior development system and a strong support base. Same story with Adelaide. The longer we take to establish franchises there, the more time we waste. Both Adelaide and Perth averaged over 15,000 people in their first seasons, what's not to say they wouldn't have grown by now? Why couldn't they be getting 30,000 to every game, like the Swans do in a League dominated market? The support for League in Perth is undoubtedly stronger than Melbourne. And the media is much less biased. They are more open to demonstrate our sport. Adelaide's rugby league ratings match those of Perth's, despite having a much smaller population.
Money is there - we just not don't know to manage it