Explain - No Manchester Super League ?

[manoj p]

Struggling with that list I see...

Too easy.

 

[bowes]

I said rugby league was bigger than union in Manchester.

Only a troll would disagree. Congrats you qualify... lol

Waiting for that massive list of union crowds.

There isn't a massive list of RU crowds, but there isn't a massive list of RL crowds. There are many times more small crowds at RU than the 10 or so small crowds at RL each year that are all the RL that ever happens there (a bit more if you count unis but that boosts RU more)

And even it Old Trafford were in Manchester it still would be 100% irrelevent to which sport is bigger in Manchester as 99% of the supporters would be from outside Manchester.

Only a troll would tell lies for no reason or try to claim crowds 99% from outside a city in a ground just outside that city make RL a big sport in that city. I have been posting sensibly on this site for many years and am not a troll, you just make up rubbish.

I really don't see any point carry on with someone as ignorant and utterly dishonest as you because you don't have the intelligence to rationally discuss fair comparisons between sports. You've ruined an interesting thread

 

[manoj p]

Why don't you start with the 5 biggest crowds for union at each of the two traditional Manchester venues:

1. Old Trafford
2. Maine Road

Then I'll list the rugby league ones...

 

[bowes]

Union = big in Manchester.

Funniest thing I have heard for a long time.

Noone ever claimed that

 

[manoj p]

You gave up pretty easily. I wonder why...

Union = no crowds of significance in Manchester, pretty much ever

And no 90,000 crowd in London either.

Shame.

 

[bowes]

Why don't you start with the 5 biggest crowds for union at each of the two traditional Manchester venues:

1. Old Trafford
2. Maine Road

Then I'll list the rugby league ones...

One of those isn't in Manchester and the other very rarely holds RL games. Neither of them has a RL club and neither has games with many supporters from Manchester.

Anyway you're on ignore now

 

[manoj p]

So you can't do it. Shame.

 

[manoj p]

Has union ever had a crowd of over 40,000 at Maine Road?

I know rugby league has crowds of up to 75,000 there.

 

[manoj p]

The reason there is no Super League club in Manchester is purely historic.

Rugby league in Manchester, as throughout all of the north of England (that part of the country which dominates English sport), dominates union. For some reason (lol), bowes seems to have an issue with that.

Perhaps he should climb in a time machine and revert to 1895. It is his best chance of correcting that which he has an issue with.

 

[manoj p]

Has Salford ever been a 'big' or 'successful' club?

They were probably the best club team in the world during the 1930s.

Had another glory period during the 1960s-1970s.

So yes.

 

[Goldfields_Titans]

Why don't you list the largest 10 union crowds in Manchester for a laugh...

lol

I wonder how many Sale will attract for that game at Horwich?

 

[manoj p]

I bet you wonder...

 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

I said rugby league was bigger than union in Manchester.

That's your opinion. But you haven't backed it up with any meaningful facts other than crowds for a final in a stadium that is outside of Manchester.

Only a troll would disagree. Congrats you qualify... lol

Only someone without an argument would result to calling someone a troll to make themselves feel better.

Waiting for that massive list of union crowds.

When you can provide this massive list of league crowds in Manchester...

Union = big in Manchester.

Funniest thing I have heard for a long time.

It's a shame no-one said it and you're having an argument with yourself.
Union isn't big in Manchester. Nobody said it, and it is a testament to your arguing skills that you have to make up stuff.

Why don't you start with the 5 biggest crowds for union at each of the two traditional Manchester venues:

1. Old Trafford
2. Maine Road

Then I'll list the rugby league ones...

One of those grounds isn't in Manchester, and the other closed down nearly a decade ago. When was the last time a game was held at Maine Road? There's only been one at City of Manchester Stadium.

You gave up pretty easily. I wonder why...

Union = no crowds of significance in Manchester, pretty much ever

And no 90,000 crowd in London either.

Shame.

Are you now trying to claim RL is bigger in London than RU? Because if you are, maybe you need to have a good hard look at the weakness of your argument if you're basing it on one game a year? Especially if that one game was over 12 years ago, as RL hasn't had a 90k+ crowd in London since 1988.

The reason there is no Super League club in Manchester is purely historic.

That actually explains nothing. You've not answered the question at all.

Rugby league in Manchester, as throughout all of the north of England (that part of the country which dominates English sport), dominates union. For some reason (lol), bowes seems to have an issue with that.

So do I as it is b*llocks. There is only one RL club in Manchester, and it is tiny. How on Earth can you say it dominates RU?
And how can you say RL throughout all the North dominates RU? Does it in Stockport? Does it in the North East? There are parts of the North that have barely any RL presence.

Perhaps he should climb in a time machine and revert to 1895. It is his best chance of correcting that which he has an issue with.

Perhaps if you start actually presenting facts you might actually have an argument?



This has to be the most pathetic attempt at arguing a point I have ever seen. Bowes has probably done more in RL than you could ever dream of, yet you call him a troll? Are you really that desperate?

RL in Manchester (even if you want to include the near areas) is very small. RU in Manchester is also very small, but is slightly less small than RL. You can try and be "clever" all you want and twist words others say by pretending they are saying it is "big" (it's a desperate arguing technique to attack the other poster), but it simply doesn't change the fact that there is very little presence in Manchester of RL, and not one of your last few floods of posts (where it appears you have been talking to yourself for a bit) have actually shown anything.

 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Thats a good detailed map showing all the districts in Gtr Manchester. There are many numourous suburbs within those boroughs as well. The region above will one day beknown as simply 'Manchester". The city is in the heart of the county with all the satellite towns and suburbs around the city, similar to most large cities on earth. So nothing really new.

Got it off Wikipedia. Really explains it in the simplest terms possible.

It most likely will all just be absorbed by Manchester in the end, although I think Wigan and Bolton (which aren't connected to Manchester at all like the other boroughs) shouldn't.

 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Have you been?

There are loads of people in Manchester right now who are from the surrounding areas.

Which club would you like to see in Manc? We could have the Manchester Crusaders, or the Manchester Dragons. Other than that using the idea that Salford doesn't represent a presence in Manchester there is not a lot else out there.

Trafford has always been part of Manchester, its a separate borough but that is only used by people wanting to make a cheap point about United. Salford, Sale, Stockport etc. where seperate towns and cities that have been slowly swallowed up by a growing Manchester and is why people there want to keep there own identity.

Trafford was mainly a giant indutrial estate and a shopping centre. That map while looking nice and pretty is completely irrelevant. Ask someone from Alty or Bowden if they are in Trafford, i bet they say no.

Rubbish. No it hasn't. It's like trying to say Cottingham and Willerby are in Hull. They're near Hull, and most people from these places will tell people they're from Hull, but it isn't actually in Hull no matter how many people "think" it is.

No matter what you "think" or what people from these places "think", it is FACT that it is not in Manchester. It's not a matter of opinion. Opinion is irrelevant when you are presented with the facts, and trying to argue against them with "opinions" is pretty pointless when the facts are in front of you.

 

[Evil Homer]

So what is Manchester then? The City Centre and that's it?

 

[manoj p]

That's your opinion. But you haven't backed it up with any meaningful facts other than crowds for a final in a stadium that is outside of Manchester.

Only someone without an argument would result to calling someone a troll to make themselves feel better.

When you can provide this massive list of league crowds in Manchester...


It's a shame no-one said it and you're having an argument with yourself.
Union isn't big in Manchester. Nobody said it, and it is a testament to your arguing skills that you have to make up stuff.

One of those grounds isn't in Manchester, and the other closed down nearly a decade ago. When was the last time a game was held at Maine Road? There's only been one at City of Manchester Stadium.



Are you now trying to claim RL is bigger in London than RU? Because if you are, maybe you need to have a good hard look at the weakness of your argument if you're basing it on one game a year? Especially if that one game was over 12 years ago, as RL hasn't had a 90k+ crowd in London since 1988.


That actually explains nothing. You've not answered the question at all.


So do I as it is b*llocks. There is only one RL club in Manchester, and it is tiny. How on Earth can you say it dominates RU?
And how can you say RL throughout all the North dominates RU? Does it in Stockport? Does it in the North East? There are parts of the North that have barely any RL presence.


Perhaps if you start actually presenting facts you might actually have an argument?



This has to be the most pathetic attempt at arguing a point I have ever seen. Bowes has probably done more in RL than you could ever dream of, yet you call him a troll? Are you really that desperate?

RL in Manchester (even if you want to include the near areas) is very small. RU in Manchester is also very small, but is slightly less small than RL. You can try and be "clever" all you want and twist words others say by pretending they are saying it is "big" (it's a desperate arguing technique to attack the other poster), but it simply doesn't change the fact that there is very little presence in Manchester of RL, and not one of your last few floods of posts (where it appears you have been talking to yourself for a bit) have actually shown anything.

What a classic rant... :lol:

Bowes is trying to push the line union dominates Manchester. He is wrong.

Given you agree, you post the union crowds at each stadia (as he ran away from) and then I will respond.

Lovely to see you offering to take up a challenge he failed miserably in.

Then you can start listing union crowds in the north of England and we will have some real laughs....

:lol::lol::lol:

 

[manoj p]

As for the troll comment, you may notice bowes made it first before he threw the toys out of the pram and realised he was in for a hiding....

lol

 

[hutch]

I lived in Manchester for a few months in 2006 and I found both rugby codes to be very small tbh! They both definitely have a presence and super league was played in a few pubs, but most people wouldn't be classed as fans! I would guess that there would be more union players, more people watch super league than domestic union, and a fair few people watch england union team!

 

[manoj p]

Wellsy also now claims union isn't dominated in the north by rugby league.

Another 1895 denial. lol