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Farah calls on PM to crack down on Twitter abuse

typicalfan

Coach
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Where does it stop though, What about all the people who started Bullying and threatening the original tweeter , Is that accepted
The first question that needs to be asked is how do we stop cyber bullying and disgusting personal attacks without it imposing on everyone else. I wouldn't want anything too restrictive but I agree it isn't something easily answered.
 

zombiebloodlust

Juniors
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In NSW if you troll a shock jock (albiet one as dumb as a box of hammers) expect to have the Polic Commissioner ring your work and get you sacked.

Welcome to the NSW , the merkinsock State




http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...1224956332703.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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David Marr
November 1, 2008
AFTER monitoring talkback radio for years, Brent Balinski reached breaking point in July. Mucking around at Media Monitors one day he found on the website of 2GB's Chris Smith pictures of the shock jock's little kids in the bath. Balinski hadn't forgotten Smith's role in whipping up the great storm over Bill Henson's pictures of naked children. He thought: "Hypocrisy doesn't do it justice."

At the nation's leading monitoring service, they know it's hard to keep their staff listening to talkback. It takes its toll. Balinski was in what he calls a "boneheaded job" listening to shock jocks and sending SMS messages to politicians. Three years under the headphones had left him with a particular loathing for Smith: "A complete hack and a dupe of a man with an on-air persona that's contrived and blokey. Alan Jones without the brains."

So he decided to take him on. Balinski, 27, doesn't work at Media Monitors anymore. But how could he have predicted when the jape began that Smith would enlist the Police Commissioner, Andrew Scipione, to track him down and have him sacked?

Balinski sent his first email to Smith on July 7: "I just thought I'd draw your attention to some disgusting, freely available pictures of children bathing (with no clothes on, of course. Appalling.)" The website address he gave was Smith's. "I hope you can get in contact with the web host and maybe make an example of this awful tripe on your program."

Smith rose to the bait on air: "The two shots he talks about … are happy, smiley family shots of my two adorable kids. One features the pair of them in a bath with only their noggins showing outside the bubbles, happily bathing with their ducky, and they're under three."

That someone might be having a bit of a lend, entirely passed Smith by.

Nor did the moniker "Sef Gonzales" ring any bells.

Balinski concedes it wasn't much of a joke to use a famous murderer's name, but he was c**k-a-hoop that Smith didn't seem to twig. "I thought it was hilarious that this man who is supposed to be across current events didn't know who Sef Gonzales was."

"Sef" sent 2GB's afternoon broadcaster nearly 20 emails over the next six weeks, correcting his English, "defending" the Pope and free trade, "celebrating" Firepower ("Did you invest in Firepower? I hear a lot of very stupid people did") and pursuing the notion that Melbourne University Press had commissioned him to write the great broadcaster's "warts and all" biography.

Smith's instinctive response was biffo. "You deserve a smack in the mouth," he told "Sef" that first afternoon on air. "What a sad and jealous little psychotic prick you are," he emailed after receiving a list of questions from his would-be biographer. And when "Sef" pressed him for photographs for the book, Smith replied: "I look forward to smacking you right in the mouth for being such a pathetic waste of space!"

According to Balinski, these emails were circulated to an audience of about 50 colleagues at Media Monitors. This was the Smith they knew. On afternoons when the broadcaster was being particularly aggravating, Balinski's friends would urge him to get "Sef" onto the job. He obliged.

Workmate Serkan Ozturk had joined him giving ginger to Smith and one or two other talkback stars. Ozturk invented characters including the very stupid "Steve Stonerson" of Surry Hills and a stereotype lebanese called Hamdi Al-Kandi of Punchbowl who together sent Smith about 15 low-octane emails over the next few weeks.

Balinski's emails darkened. He invented "Sione (Johnny) Howard", a vigorous if barely intelligent defender of his people. "Hey bitch," he warned. "You didnt mention in ur bio that ur a racist shit against us islanderz. Hatemonger. Ur goin down."

Balinski knows this was rough. "That was overdoing it but I thought I'd made it clear that this was a parody of the sort of illiterate islander he was railing against." Though other light-hearted nonsense from "Sione" soon followed, it was too late. Smith called in the cops.

The fearless 2GB broadcaster wouldn't talk to the Herald about any of this. He reckons Balinski threatened his family, but where's the proof? And was he really afraid of "Sione"? Or was he just sick of it all? Didn't he have an inkling these emails were spoofs? Smith won't help.

Smith said in a statement to the Herald: "My family was genuinely fearful."

He didn't mess about. "I spoke to the Police Commissioner about these threats," he told his listeners. "I thank Andrew Scipione for appointing an experienced team of investigators who tracked back the origins of the emails, the server, the IP signature and also the workplace."

The police turned up at Media Monitors on September 10. Balinski and Ozturk were dismissed. Smith denounced his "stalkers" to The Daily Telegraph then named these "idiots" and "cretinous cowards" on air. Smith was himself to the end: "If they came within 20 metres of me I'd have had a great deal of satisfaction punching their lights out and I probably would have gone a little bit too far."

Smith is ploughing on regardless. Ozturk is contesting his sacking. Balinski is taking it on the chin: "I'd been a bit of a dickhead. If I were my employer, I'd fire me."
 

kmav23

Juniors
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The problem is technology is ahead Of the law. The police can't charge the the person with anything unless they make a threat.

Twitter is a grey area, as they proclaim they are not responsible for what people communicate.

E.g Telstra and Australia post
 

M2D2

Bench
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Heres the thing, you could have said EXACTLY what that person said right to his face and there isnt a law against it.
But the way some of you complain you want a law in place that makes the internet turn into a Fischer price toy because of people saying mean things and bring in censorship.
He could have said the thing to me and i still would be an advocate against any kind of censorship on the internet.
 

de$$ie

Juniors
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Heres the thing, you could have said EXACTLY what that person said right to his face and there isnt a law against it.
But the way some of you complain you want a law in place that makes the internet turn into a Fischer price toy because of people saying mean things and bring in censorship.
He could have said the thing to me and i still would be an advocate against any kind of censorship on the internet.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
 

CrazyTiger

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Wow, there are some just amazing statements here. I hate talking in these types of threads because I come here to talk footy but some of the posts are just so out of this world.

All bullys are cowards, people who use the cloak of supposed anonymity to try and belittle others for self gratification are cowards. I would be more than happy for regulation to be introduced to prevent this sort of cowardly behaviour. Robbie has gone through a tough year, maybe the toughest in his life and I support him 100%. If this happened to a friend of mine I would be exactly the same, Robbie gets no special treatment but he is delving into an issue that is much larger than one errant tweet by some two toothed bandit and that is what a lot of people just have no concept of or depth of understanding, and it shows.

The "All bullys are cowards" line is tripe. Calling bullies names does very little to achieve
any worthwhile outcome, other than making the clowns spouting this drivel feel better
for five minutes.
 

typicalfan

Coach
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The "All bullys are cowards" line is tripe. Calling bullies names does very little to achieve
any worthwhile outcome, other than making the clowns spouting this drivel feel better
for five minutes.
All bullys are cowards, every..last...one.
 

Cletus

First Grade
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That's pretty much it. They'd never say this sort of stuff to his face. He needs to harden up a bit and realise its just some banker on the internet.
 

Willow

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The comments are obvious trolling.
No, that's too much of a generalisation.

Despite what the NSW Premier and media are saying, it's not really trolling, it was some heavy flaming. Needed to be removed and I can understand Farah's distress.

Having said that, it wouldn't be an issue if Farah simply blocked it and reported it. By making a big fuss about it, threatening violence etc, he has made himself a target for every anonymous flamer.

If you get an obscene phone call, you hang up. You don't entertain them.
 

typicalfan

Coach
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I've been bullied by the best, and it just aint so. What about sociopaths?
Not only are bullies cowards but bullying is probably the most cowardly thing one can do. Antisocial people generally have triggers in early life, which is often caused by bullying as well. It is a sad circle.
 

Grapple

First Grade
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Heres the thing, you could have said EXACTLY what that person said right to his face and there isnt a law against it.
But the way some of you complain you want a law in place that makes the internet turn into a Fischer price toy because of people saying mean things and bring in censorship.
He could have said the thing to me and i still would be an advocate against any kind of censorship on the internet.

This is it. If the person had said it:

1. On a rugby field.... Farah would've smacked him and then would've been penalised.
2. On the street..... Farah would've smacked him and then probably would've been charged.
3. On Twitter.... Farah enlists help of Prime Minister because he physically can't smack him.
 
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It is a disgrace, I read the tweet yesterday and was outraged and angered.

Footballers deserve a life and freedom.

They should be able to have Twitter and Facebook. They should be able to go for a beer and have dinner with friends or family.

All of this rubbish of "if you don't like it, don't do it or don't have it" is crap.

What was said to Rob about his mum is the most vile, disgusting and disrespectful thing I have ever heard.

I hope the person that wrote this is spotlighted and made an example of.

Set a precedent with this person. They will be infamous and unemployable.

Life ruined. Good.

Bubbles
 

CrazyTiger

Juniors
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Not only are bullies cowards but bullying is probably the most cowardly thing one can do. Antisocial people generally have triggers in early life, which is often caused by bullying as well. It is a sad circle.

I'm talking about a particular type of bully. Sociopaths are born not made, their
brains don't have any wiring for compassion. You are confusing being cruel with
being a coward.

Calling sociopaths names doesn't work. Whilst they are at the top end of the bullying
spectrum, calling bullies names whilst popular, in my opinion it is largely pointless.
 

Pete Cash

Post Whore
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Got to laugh when people say "Try saying that to him in person".

Do some people think that people in the public eye are some type of indestructible demigod! I'm twice Robbie's age and be assured, he would come out of the sealed room in a pine box after 3 minutes.

He's a professional athlete you silly clown in a sport that has full time wrestling coaches. Farah would take you down and mangle your face
 

M2D2

Bench
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It is a disgrace, I read the tweet yesterday and was outraged and angered.

Footballers deserve a life and freedom.

They should be able to have Twitter and Facebook. They should be able to go for a beer and have dinner with friends or family.

All of this rubbish of "if you don't like it, don't do it or don't have it" is crap.

What was said to Rob about his mum is the most vile, disgusting and disrespectful thing I have ever heard.

I hope the person that wrote this is spotlighted and made an example of.

Set a precedent with this person. They will be infamous and unemployable.

Life ruined. Good.

Bubbles

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Thats right people. Lets ruin a life because of something an internet troll said.
Lets censor the internet.
ALL OF THESE GREAT IDEAS ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY geniusS®
 
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:lol:
Thats right people. Lets ruin a life because of something an internet troll said.
Lets censor the internet.
ALL OF THESE GREAT IDEAS ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY geniusS®

If you think what was said is acceptable, well then good luck to you.

I just hope no one ever says anything like that to you regarding your family.

Because then I am sure your attitude will change.
 

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