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Farah calls on PM to crack down on Twitter abuse

beave

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Well my dog died this year, be f**ked if I'm letting Joel Monaghan anywhere near my twitter account.............
 

RABK

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And a place like LU with little income run mostly on volunteer work can moderate it's members yet multibillion dollar organisations like facebook and twitter hide behind T&C's and are happy with the free press and have little regard for stamping out and moderating abuse.

Someone reports a death threat on facebook and they'd be luck to ever hear anything back but a celebrity or brand report a facebook group using their name and it's shutdown within hours. Money talks.
 

Apey

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I've seen a Facebook account get banned. I suppose the circumstances were slightly different.

A 19 y/o guy who went to my school got killed and some people set up a Facebook page dedicated to his memory and some guy started up an account pretending to be him saying "it's alright guys I'm okay" and it got banned, lol.

Also lol@Usain Bolt saying this was flaming but not trolling. Are you thick? Blatantly obvious the intention was to get a rise out of Farah.
 
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Also lol@Usain Bolt saying this was flaming but not trolling. Are you thick? Blatantly obvious the intention was to get a rise out of Farah.

Flolling... Troming... Some sort of hybrid mix methinks.

I love how the media have latched onto the word "troll". I can imagine all the pensioners who have no idea about the internet, listening to Alan Jones tomorrow morning and then mobilizing a lynch mob to go checking under all the bridges in Sydney searching for this troll.
 

Apey

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No doubt he flamed him in some form, but clearly the intention was to get a rise out of Farah. The dude would have known Farah gets dragged into shit easily on Twitter.
 

Vic Mackey

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Heres the thing, you could have said EXACTLY what that person said right to his face and there isnt a law against it.
But the way some of you complain you want a law in place that makes the internet turn into a Fischer price toy because of people saying mean things and bring in censorship.
He could have said the thing to me and i still would be an advocate against any kind of censorship on the internet.

Difference is if someone said it to Farah/anyone else in real life they would get the sh*t kicked out of them. Saying it on twitter from an anonymous account is the ultimate cowardness.

If I was Farah I think I would have ignored it, by retweeting it or whatever he did he just brought more focus on it and brought his family into it, whereas if he ignored it it would have just been him who saw it.

On the plus side this blokes IP address might lead to him being publicly shamed, imagine him having to face his parents/employer after it. Would be unbelievable karma
 

DJShaksta

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They have his IP address yes. But to get his personal information they would have to go through the service provider and they would be quite within their right to withhold the information or risk being sued for breaches of the privacy act.
 

Apey

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I'm not going to lie, being the horrible person that I am, the first thing I thought of when I read the tweet was the South Park episode Korn's Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery...
 

veggiepatch1959

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They have his IP address yes. But to get his personal information they would have to go through the service provider and they would be quite within their right to withhold the information or risk being sued for breaches of the privacy act.

Set up an internet account in an internet cafe and go from there. Do as you like and make sure there are not any security cameras and ID proof requirements.

Easy as!!
 
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Difference is if someone said it to Farah/anyone else in real life they would get the sh*t kicked out of them. Saying it on twitter from an anonymous account is the ultimate cowardness.

If I was Farah I think I would have ignored it, by retweeting it or whatever he did he just brought more focus on it and brought his family into it, whereas if he ignored it it would have just been him who saw it.

On the plus side this blokes IP address might lead to him being publicly shamed, imagine him having to face his parents/employer after it. Would be unbelievable karma

Probably a kid with no self esteem. Best case scenario if it gets out is someone at his school sorts him out.
 

Hooch

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If you would like to refute my assertion that suicide is a by-product of mental illness then go right ahead.

I refute it entirely. I also refute the validity of the mental health model, and the laughable treatments it provides.

The field as it stands is not dissimilar to chanting away the devil, and it has no reasonable scientific basis for diagnosis let alone treatment.

I'd expect that having kids marked out as suicide risks based on a mental health assessments will be a futile exercise in labelling; at best achieving very little, at worse simply increasing someones sense of alienation.

Probably better to stick with what we intuitively know works, strong family and community ties, good culture, mutual respect, playing sport etc etc.

Certainly better than f**k arsing around with dipshit clinicians hell bent on putting 'at risk' kids on preventative doses of anti-psychotics (proposed by Pat McGorry of all people, and he was widely laughed at by his own profession for attempting to trial unscientific, undisprovable bullshit).

Don't tackle bullying, tackle the root cause - mentally ill people. Good luck with that. When you have a cure, let us know, we can stop youth suicide in its tracks and leave bullying for the harmless fun it is?

Idiot.
 

undertaker

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Difference is if someone said it to Farah/anyone else in real life they would get the sh*t kicked out of them. Saying it on twitter from an anonymous account is the ultimate cowardness.

You need to take off those Tigers glasses for a second there. You don't think it was cowardly when Farah had a big sook and attacked Matty Johns on twitter after appearing on NRL on FOX?
 

Vic Mackey

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You need to take off those Tigers glasses for a second there. You don't think it was cowardly when Farah had a big sook and attacked Matty Johns on twitter after appearing on NRL on FOX?

Are you seriously comparing the two?

You obviously don't like Farah and that's fine. Obviously Im a tigers fan but I looked at it subjectively, I said I don't think he should have retweeted it as its just brought more focus onto him and his family.
 
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Can people learn the difference between trolling and flaming first. 90% of what I read now about "trolling", isn't even trolling. It's like the media call anything trolling these days. Abusing someone on the Internet isn't trolling

I keep saying this, and directed people to wikipedia, and trying to explain that trolling isn't necessarily abusive or laughing at grieving relatives on facebook.

What gets me is that in Britain the biggest media outlet banging on about "trolls" everyday is the Daily Mail, perphaps the greatest IRL trolls the world has ever seen.

It's hilarious to hear people completely out of touch with the internet keep talking about "trolls", usually without any idea of what trolling actually entails.
 

adamkungl

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Being a cowardly arsehole shouldnt be illegal, internet or not. Calls for laws about people being mean on twitter are utterly absurd.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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People's opinions on this. It was posted tonight by someone on this forum.

2 new teams, 90 more players

lose 1 player in vegas

what? too soon?

In case people don't know. It was in reference to the AFL player that died in Las Vegas today.
 
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adamkungl

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Wow, there are some just amazing statements here. I hate talking in these types of threads because I come here to talk footy but some of the posts are just so out of this world.

All bullys are cowards, people who use the cloak of supposed anonymity to try and belittle others for self gratification are cowards. I would be more than happy for regulation to be introduced to prevent this sort of cowardly behaviour.

Such as....?
No being mean on the internet? :lol: Do you realise how childish this whole thing sounds? Farah has the means to block anyone that's a bit too nasty to him.

For the record, I am NOT condoning abusing celebrities on the internet, and definitely not what was said to Farah. But the reactions some people want from lawmakers are utterly ridiculous and can only lead to loss of freedoms.

If you think what was said is acceptable, well then good luck to you.

I just hope no one ever says anything like that to you regarding your family.

Because then I am sure your attitude will change.

No one thinks it's acceptable, it's beside the point.
 

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