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Farah calls on PM to crack down on Twitter abuse

CrazyTiger

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It isn't, and shouldn't be, illegal to be offensive.

Had this guy done it in public, he would not be arrested and charged with anything... So why make it so online?

There is an easy option... Block and continue on with your life.

Personally, I want police focusing on crimes that actually exist - like assaults, robberies, etc.

There are limits on how offensive you are allowed to be in public or online. However, this doesn't get anywhere near it.
 

Danish

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I've seen enough people saying it was the most vile, disgusting thing in their life to know basically what it would have said.

It's. Not. Anonymous. Yes it's very likely to be someone he doesn't know. Does that make it any less cruel and hurtful? Not likely. It's not wasting resources at all. Look at the bigger picture. They track this guy down very easily using his IP. They arrest him, they get the message out that it is unacceptable. These 'trolls' (dunno when that was a substitute word for f**kwit) then run scared that they might end up in clink. It happens less. Abuse, injury and even death are avoided down the track. Think I'm being overblown? It happens a hell of a lot more than you may think.


Who cares if its not anonymous?

Who is this idiot to Farah? A f**king nobody. Ergo, he shouldn't give even a momentary thought to what he said to him.

If you were just walking down the street and some idiot walking the other direction said he wanted to rape your grandmother or something equally stupid, would you even bother to break stride and acknowledge them? I certainly wouldn't. I'd just dismiss them as the moron they are and continue about my day.
 

BM1979

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Facebooks age limit is 13.

I remember a news story about a 10 year old girl found hanging from a rope after ending her life because the bullying was too much.

It can drive people of all ages to suicide or other mental issues, it should be taken just as seriously by the government and courts as physical attacks are.

I don't think it bothers Robbie to much on the field , he is quite Lippy and doesn't mind a sledge , tell me where you draw the line, what's offensive what's not
 

BunniesMan

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It isn't, and shouldn't be, illegal to be offensive.

Had this guy done it in public, he would not be arrested and charged with anything... So why make it so online?

There is an easy option... Block and continue on with your life.

Personally, I want police focusing on crimes that actually exist - like assaults, robberies, etc.
And if one day god forbid a child of yours attempts suicide because of it you might think it actually exists too.
 

Frailty

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There are limits on how offensive you are allowed to be in public or online. However, this doesn't get anywhere near it.

This was my point...

Laws that already exist can be applied to twitter, facebook, and other social media. There is no need for a new set of laws that take comments online far beyond the comments made in the physical world.
 

Frailty

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And if one day god forbid a child of yours attempts suicide because of it you might think it actually exists too.

I've known people who have committed suicide for many reasons, and some of them are completely trivial.

The harsh reality is things are said and done that we don't like and we have options how we act in response. Do you think me calling you a merkin online is any different to calling you a merkin in real life? If not, then why do we need a new set of laws when the current ones can already be applied.
 

Penrose Warrior

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:crazy::crazy::crazy:

Opinion is divided on this because blaming a generation because celebritys cant hack people saying mean things on a social media outlet that they signed up for is f**king geniused.
Oh wow, bunniesman the forum genius has sensibility in this case. what a f**king shock.
For a man who has WARRIOR in his name, you sure are a bleeding heart.
What UK did was turn themselves into a nanny state.
Ive been bullied my entire f**king life.
Not a single thing was done by anybody to stop any of that.
But some celebs have something nasty said against them ON THE f**kING INTERNET and im supposed to feel sorry for them and bring in a law against saying mean things on the internet.
Get f**ked. I have no sympathy for any of these people who crack a whinge because of something somebody on twitter said.
If anything this generation has problems with is melodramatic actions of few entitled pussies had something mean said about them and taking it to the press.

It's not about celebrities. It's about everyone. You got that part, right? This isn't just about Robbie Farah. It's about an alarming trend online that affects life. That is not just solved by 'suck it up and move on'.

Did you enjoy being bullied? Did it affect you? If there was a way of eradicating it, would you have taken it? Or did you just say oh well, such is life. I imagine I know the answer.

Who cares if it's the internet. It's the same as it being said face to face. It's still human interaction. That's some people's problem on here - they think people on here are robots or some from other dimension. It's not.

I'm unpleasantly surprised by the level of idiocy on this thread. The 'suck it up' fools are the same ones that say 'cheer up' to sufferers of depression. They're only blissfully unaware because it hasn't affected them directly. I can only hope some on here don't have their opinion changed by that situation changing.
 

DJShaksta

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I can go on twitter right now, create a dummy account with a disposable email account, fire off death threats to every major pollie in the world and more than likely there would be zero consequences. You would have to be stupid enough to use your personal account linked to your personal email to be caught.

Furthermore, if I were to go up to Robbie Farah right now in the street and tell him to his face what that deadshit posted on twitter last night I would not be arrested. I would probably cop an almighty beating and rightly so, but there's just no law against saying unkind things, no matter how disgusting.

Exactly.
And if you did the latter and copped a beating you could then have the person charged with assault.
 

Danish

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I've known people who have committed suicide for many reasons, and some of them are completely trivial.

The harsh reality is things are said and done that we don't like and we have options how we act in response. Do you think me calling you a merkin online is any different to calling you a merkin in real life? If not, then why do we need a new set of laws when the current ones can already be applied.


Fact is people only commit suicide for 1 reason. They are severely mentally ill.

You can't bully someone who is in a sound mental state into killing themselves. They have to start off already with a lot of mental issues and only then can something like bullying, teasing etc lead to them attempting such a thing.

However mental health is too big of an issue for people to get their heads around, so instead they just like to point the finger at easy targets like bullying to explain away something as horrible as suicide.
 

Frailty

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Fact is people only commit suicide for 1 reason. They are severely mentally ill.

You can't bully someone who is in a sound mental state into killing themselves. They have to start off already with a lot of mental issues and only then can something like bullying, teasing etc lead to them attempting such a thing.

However mental health is too big of an issue for people to get their heads around, so instead they just like to point the finger at easy targets like bullying to explain away something as horrible as suicide.

Shhh.... Our countries resources are better spent trying to fight global online crime - not actually going into providing better care and services in mental health!
 

BDR

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It's not about celebrities. It's about everyone. You got that part, right? This isn't just about Robbie Farah. It's about an alarming trend online that affects life. That is not just solved by 'suck it up and move on'.

Did you enjoy being bullied? Did it affect you? If there was a way of eradicating it, would you have taken it? Or did you just say oh well, such is life. I imagine I know the answer.

Who cares if it's the internet. It's the same as it being said face to face. It's still human interaction. That's some people's problem on here - they think people on here are robots or some from other dimension. It's not.

I'm unpleasantly surprised by the level of idiocy on this thread. The 'suck it up' fools are the same ones that say 'cheer up' to sufferers of depression. They're only blissfully unaware because it hasn't affected them directly. I can only hope some on here don't have their opinion changed by that situation changing.

You seem to miss one important point - Twitter is optional. Being bullied in the schoolyard is not a situation a person can easily remove themselves from. Robbie Farah can slap that logout button and never look at twitter again for the rest of his life with no impact on his life. Extend that to the entire internet. Carefully self-moderate which sites you visit and use and you will probably never see another hurtful thing posted online in your life.

If you don't like the way Twitter works don't use the f**king thing. Set up your own alternative with terms of use prohibiting any mean tweets and moderate it yourself. You CANNOT use the government as a tool to push your version of politeness or morality onto the rest of the population! Wake up to yourself. The UK is a police state, and it worries me that there is a significant portion of our society who is keen to push our country that way as well.

Edit: Sad that I have to post this, but I'm going to preempt the inevitable response and say I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT THIS PERSON POSTED ON TWITTER.
 
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M2D2

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It's not about celebrities. It's about everyone. You got that part, right? This isn't just about Robbie Farah. It's about an alarming trend online that affects life. That is not just solved by 'suck it up and move on'.

Did you enjoy being bullied? Did it affect you? If there was a way of eradicating it, would you have taken it? Or did you just say oh well, such is life. I imagine I know the answer.

Who cares if it's the internet. It's the same as it being said face to face. It's still human interaction. That's some people's problem on here - they think people on here are robots or some from other dimension. It's not.

I'm unpleasantly surprised by the level of idiocy on this thread. The 'suck it up' fools are the same ones that say 'cheer up' to sufferers of depression. They're only blissfully unaware because it hasn't affected them directly. I can only hope some on here don't have their opinion changed by that situation changing.
Bullshit its the same as being face to face. Theres a thing called the block/ignore feature on the internet. You dont get that from face to face bullies.
Bullying in real life f**ked me up beyond repair. Bullying on the internet is nothing f**king like it.
As a person who has received both, i will take what that person said to Robbie 'Whinge' Farah any day of the week.
You trying to latch onto "suck it up" to people who say "cheer up" to people with mental imbalances is a fallacy pure and simple.

I would tell Robbie Farah and Dawson to "harden up & use the block feature" and not only would i never say "cheer up" to a person with a mental disorder, i wouldnt like hearing it if somebody said it to me on here because i have one. But i wouldnt complain to mods or reach for the razor blades either.
You can't bully someone who is in a sound mental state into killing themselves. They have to start off already with a lot of mental issues and only then can something like bullying, teasing etc lead to them attempting such a thing.

However mental health is too big of an issue for people to get their heads around, so instead they just like to point the finger at easy targets like bullying to explain away something as horrible as suicide.
I wouldnt agree with this unless it has an '*' *=unless the bullying lasts an extended period of time.
Bullying can land people who were cheery/happy into mentally ill land in a year or two
Shhh.... Our countries resources are better spent trying to fight global online crime - not actually going into providing better care and services in mental health!
Jesus our health care in this is an abomination
 
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BM1979

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Oh man. Some psychology majors in here. Unreal.

There are options on twitter to avoid it though , Robbie chooses not to protect his account. I would like to see Robbie go work in the prisons or be a cop when you put up with it every day. The cops are probably laughing at him thinking what a pussy
 

CrazyTiger

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I've known people who have committed suicide for many reasons, and some of them are completely trivial.

The harsh reality is things are said and done that we don't like and we have options how we act in response. Do you think me calling you a merkin online is any different to calling you a merkin in real life? If not, then why do we need a new set of laws when the current ones can already be applied.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with you that being called a merkin on line is exactly the same
as being called a merkin in "real life". The communication medium does matter. When you
put it in writing it is potentially more lasting.

I totally agree with you though, that whole new sets of laws are not required.
 
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http://www.weststigers.com.au/news-display/Statement-from-Robbie-Farah/63698

Wests Tigers rugby league captain Robbie Farah has made a statement about a vile comment he received on his Twitter account last night.
Farah has provided a report to NSW Police who are looking into the matter. The vile comment referred to his mother Sonia Farah, who passed away in June.
“I was very shocked and appalled to receive this vile comment on my twitter account last night,’’ Farah said.
“Whilst I’m all for banter on Twitter and people expressing their opinions, this was personal about my late mother who I am still grieving about.
“As a rugby league player, I understand people are going to have different opinions about me, my football club, or the weekend’s results, and I accept that by putting myself on Twitter.
“I know I will get positive and negative messages and I need to be accountable for the way I respond to these comments.
“However the tweet I received last night clearly crossed the line and was personal abuse of the worst possible kind, not only to myself but my family.
“I understand NSW Police do have some powers to take action against people who post abusive comments online and I appreciate the efforts they are making.
“However I encourage the Federal Government to strengthen social media laws so that these cowards are made accountable for their actions and people can be protected from the kind of disgusting personal abuse that I have received.”
 

Apey

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I'm on the fence about this one kind of... I completely agree with everyone talking about the power to ignore/block/not respond, however I think that is really only applicable when the insults are directed as you personally. It's easier said than done when the comments are about a topic as sensitive as this was, and about somebody close to you.
 

WaznTheGreat

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Bullshit, i swore in front of a cop once and im still paying off the fine. I didnt even swear at the officer, just while i was talking to them.


I would have thought the police officer would be intimidated by your 6'5 frame :crazy:
 

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