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Farah calls on PM to crack down on Twitter abuse

BM1979

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Then f**k off to America.

The majority common sense opinion in sane countries like this one is rights are NOT unlimited, rights come with responsibilities.

I'm optimistic laws will be changed for the better as more high profile victims like Charlotte Dawson and Robbie Farah get into the spotlight.


Sticks and stones may break my bones but words cannot hurt me. By the way it's not hard to protect your account Robbie, You seriously wan't the PM to jump in cause YOU got upset.
 

zombiebloodlust

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victims like Charlotte Dawson ht.

Dawson was trolled by 4chan. Are you to ask Interpol to arrest them and have them sent to oz for trial?

Then, Australia will be required to deport people who spat in Singapore, so they can be flogged with a ratan soaked in cat piss.

Gen y. Simple solutions to complex problems.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I honestly don't know why opinion is divided on this. It dismays me. And Bunniesman is showing a lot of you up in the sensibility stakes. Maybe you should ponder on that.

It's a bigger issue than just a tweet to Farah. It's an epidemic of a generation that thinks there is no consequence to anything they put on social media. It affects lives. Google it, if you need to.
 

BDR

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Guy is an absolute merkin but seriously, that's the nature of twitter and the internet. I think it's pretty laughable that Farah and the media think that the PM CAN do anything about it, let alone will do anything about it.
 

parramaniac2516

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The thing that annoys me about this situation is this kinda thing goes on all the time with kids at school and nothing is done. But when something happens to farah a massive investigation is required. I feel for Farah and in no way condone what has been said but this is not the first thing like this to happen and suddenly there is a massive uproar and the law must be changed.
 

CrazyTiger

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Not every social media idiot is capable of hiding their IP address. And I don't know that much about it, but surely there will be a movement towards figuring out how to get around those programmes as well.

And more moronic stuff about 'you open yourself up for it'. You open yourself up to all the dangers of the world by stepping out your front door, by waking up in the morning. What you're saying excuses the abhorrent behaviour of gutless f**ks like this, and gives them the justification in their own mind. The UK has the right laws. A guy who abused the diver and said he let his late father down got arrested. There's a line in the sand. I bet plenty of twitter heroes thought twice after that.

No understanding required. Plenty of free services exist to do it for you already. If
they try and censor twitter, they will start informing users how to stop being tracked
so they can use twitter anonymously. The internet protocols were designed to be
cooperative, the horse has bolted.
 

BM1979

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I honestly don't know why opinion is divided on this. It dismays me. And Bunniesman is showing a lot of you up in the sensibility stakes. Maybe you should ponder on that.

It's a bigger issue than just a tweet to Farah. It's an epidemic of a generation that thinks there is no consequence to anything they put on social media. It affects lives. Google it, if you need to.

Tell me where the line is , should Farahs physical threat of Violence also be punished
 

Penrose Warrior

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Again, BDR=fail. They can do something about it. The UK did, it's working there. And did it occur to anyone that Farah is doing this with the bigger picture in mind, not just himself? If it takes him to get the message out there and the law changed, so that any member of the public is spared, good. Great.
 

BunniesMan

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Sticks and stones may break my bones but words cannot hurt me. By the way it's not hard to protect your account Robbie, You seriously wan't the PM to jump in cause YOU got upset.
And that is literally the dumbest saying in the history of the english language.

How many people kill themselves after being the victim of physical abuse? Compare that to story after story you hear of children, teenagers and adults ending their lives or attempting to because of verbal abuse or cyber bullying.

NOONE ever suggests making physical attacks legal. So why should verbal abuse and cyber bullying that can cause anguish and in a lot of cases can do much more damage than anything physical be ignored.

Serious cases of bullying should be treated just as harshly by the courts as a serious physical attack would be.
 
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BunniesMan

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Guy is an absolute merkin but seriously, that's the nature of twitter and the internet. I think it's pretty laughable that Farah and the media think that the PM CAN do anything about it, let alone will do anything about it.
If the federal government and state governments work together, like Barry O'Farrell promised to do yesterday, they can.

The UK government has shown it is possible to police. These people can be found, these people can be brought to court, and these people can be jailed when necessary.

This does not belong in the "too hard" basket.
 

zombiebloodlust

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Bollocks. If someone told you to put your face in a toaster would you do it?
Of course not.

Pity

And that is literally the dumbest saying in the history of the english language.

How many people kill themselves after being the victim of physical abuse? Compare that to story of story you hear of children, teenagers and adults ending their lives or attempting to because of verbal abuse or cyber bullying.

NOONE ever suggests making physical attacks legal. So why should verbal abuse and cyber bullying that can cause anguish and in a lot of cases can do much more damage than anything physical be ignored.

Serious cases of bullying should be treated just as harshly by the courts as a serious physical attack would be.
 

BM1979

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And that is literally the dumbest saying in the history of the english language.

How many people kill themselves after being the victim of physical abuse? Compare that to story of story you hear of children, teenagers and adults ending their lives or attempting to because of verbal abuse or cyber bullying.

NOONE ever suggests making physical attacks legal. So why should verbal abuse and cyber bullying that can cause anguish and in a lot of cases can do much more damage than anything physical be ignored.

Serious cases of bullying should be treated just as harshly by the courts as a serious physical attack would be.

How old are you suppose to be to hold a facebook or twitter account , I know my kids wont be allowed to have one before then
 

CrazyTiger

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I've seen enough people saying it was the most vile, disgusting thing in their life to know basically what it would have said.

It's. Not. Anonymous. Yes it's very likely to be someone he doesn't know. Does that make it any less cruel and hurtful? Not likely. It's not wasting resources at all. Look at the bigger picture. They track this guy down very easily using his IP. They arrest him, they get the message out that it is unacceptable. These 'trolls' (dunno when that was a substitute word for f**kwit) then run scared that they might end up in clink. It happens less. Abuse, injury and even death are avoided down the track. Think I'm being overblown? It happens a hell of a lot more than you may think.

I said it was anonymous from a practical perspective, and yes, I think being insulted
by someone you know is potentially more insulting than being insulted by some one you
don't.

It was offensive. The guy who said it was out of order, but it was little more than that.
 
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Frailty

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It isn't, and shouldn't be, illegal to be offensive.

Had this guy done it in public, he would not be arrested and charged with anything... So why make it so online?

There is an easy option... Block and continue on with your life.

Personally, I want police focusing on crimes that actually exist - like assaults, robberies, etc.
 

M2D2

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I honestly don't know why opinion is divided on this. It dismays me. And Bunniesman is showing a lot of you up in the sensibility stakes. Maybe you should ponder on that.

It's a bigger issue than just a tweet to Farah. It's an epidemic of a generation that thinks there is no consequence to anything they put on social media. It affects lives. Google it, if you need to.
:crazy::crazy::crazy:

Opinion is divided on this because blaming a generation because celebritys cant hack people saying mean things on a social media outlet that they signed up for is f**king geniused.
Oh wow, bunniesman the forum genius has sensibility in this case. what a f**king shock.
For a man who has WARRIOR in his name, you sure are a bleeding heart.
What UK did was turn themselves into a nanny state.
Ive been bullied my entire f**king life.
Not a single thing was done by anybody to stop any of that.
But some celebs have something nasty said against them ON THE f**kING INTERNET and im supposed to feel sorry for them and bring in a law against saying mean things on the internet.
Get f**ked. I have no sympathy for any of these people who crack a whinge because of something somebody on twitter said.
If anything this generation has problems with is melodramatic actions of few entitled pussies had something mean said about them and taking it to the press.
 

BunniesMan

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How old are you suppose to be to hold a facebook or twitter account , I know my kids wont be allowed to have one before then
Facebooks age limit is 13.

I remember a news story about a 10 year old girl found hanging from a rope after ending her life because the bullying was too much.

It can drive people of all ages to suicide or other mental issues, it should be taken just as seriously by the government and courts as physical attacks are.
 

betcats

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People are different, some are thick skinned and will laugh at or shrug off the most heinous of insults and others will take the smallest things to heart.

Personally words never really bothered me that much, they are just words. BUT I think internet bullying/trolling of this sort can be pretty cowardly and has the potential to lead to someone doing serious harm to themselves or others, so for that alone it should be taken seriously.
 

BDR

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Again, BDR=fail. They can do something about it. The UK did, it's working there. And did it occur to anyone that Farah is doing this with the bigger picture in mind, not just himself? If it takes him to get the message out there and the law changed, so that any member of the public is spared, good. Great.

If the federal government and state governments work together, like Barry O'Farrell promised to do yesterday, they can.

The UK government has shown it is possible to police. These people can be found, these people can be brought to court, and these people can be jailed when necessary.

This does not belong in the "too hard" basket.

I can go on twitter right now, create a dummy account with a disposable email account, fire off death threats to every major pollie in the world and more than likely there would be zero consequences. You would have to be stupid enough to use your personal account linked to your personal email to be caught.

Furthermore, if I were to go up to Robbie Farah right now in the street and tell him to his face what that deadshit posted on twitter last night I would not be arrested. I would probably cop an almighty beating and rightly so, but there's just no law against saying unkind things, no matter how disgusting.
 

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