Farah calls on PM to crack down on Twitter abuse

[CrazyTiger]

You seem to miss one important point - Twitter is optional. Being bullied in the schoolyard is not a situation a person can easily remove themselves from. Robbie Farah can slap that logout button and never look at twitter again for the rest of his life with no impact on his life. Extend that to the entire internet. Carefully self-moderate which sites you visit and use and you will probably never see another hurtful thing posted online in your life.

If you don't like the way Twitter works don't use the f**king thing. Set up your own alternative with terms of use prohibiting any mean tweets and moderate it yourself. You CANNOT use the government as a tool to push your version of politeness or morality onto the rest of the population! Wake up to yourself. The UK is a police state, and it worries me that there is a significant portion of our society who is keen to push our country that way as well.

Edit: Sad that I have to post this, but I'm going to preempt the inevitable response and say I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT THIS PERSON POSTED ON TWITTER.

hear hear

 

[DJShaksta]

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Bullshit, i swore in front of a cop once and im still paying off the fine. I didnt even swear at the officer, just while i was talking to them.

Where did this happen?
What were the circumstances?

I'm calling BS

 

[BunniesMan]

You seem to miss one important point - Twitter is optional. Being bullied in the schoolyard is not a situation a person can easily remove themselves from. Robbie Farah can slap that logout button and never look at twitter again for the rest of his life with no impact on his life. Extend that to the entire internet. Carefully self-moderate which sites you visit and use and you will probably never see another hurtful thing posted online in your life.

If you don't like the way Twitter works don't use the f**king thing. Set up your own alternative with terms of use prohibiting any mean tweets and moderate it yourself. You CANNOT use the government as a tool to push your version of politeness or morality onto the rest of the population! Wake up to yourself. The UK is a police state, and it worries me that there is a significant portion of our society who is keen to push our country that way as well.

Edit: Sad that I have to post this, but I'm going to preempt the inevitable response and say I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT THIS PERSON POSTED ON TWITTER.

This is what you rightwing hyper free speech types don't understand. If you think he has a right to say those things, it's as good as agreeing with it.

You're either for it or against it.

Btw, it's not about pushing ones own version of morality on other people. This isn't about morals. This is about law and order. We don't allow anarchy in the streets so why should we allow it on the internet

As for your "just log out" suggestion. It shows ignorance about gen Y and younger society. If you "just log out" from social media it's like locking yourself out of a community of your peers. People use social media to network among their professional peers, for some it's used as the main way to study for and do schoolwork. For somepeople opening up social media in the morning is the equivalent of when their parents generation opened the morning paper.

There are people in there 20s now who have applied for and interviewed for every job they've ever had via social media.

Social media is becoming less and less a luxury and more and more an absolutely necessary part of daily life for young people.

And just like we have a right to walk down the street without being abused, we should have the right to be a part of social media without being abused.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Not every social media idiot is capable of hiding their IP address. And I don't know that much about it, but surely there will be a movement towards figuring out how to get around those programmes as well.

Unless the police find efficient ways to break 256 bit encryption (the same stuff you use to log into your bank), then no, there won't be ways to get around it. Many idiots don't know about it, but sure as hell the people who are truly inflammatory, or criminal, are aware of such technologies and use them. As do kiddie fiddlers and all other sorts of miscreants that use the internet. I do know a lot about it, as I work in the IT industry. It's absolutely impossible to track people who want to be anonymous, unless you want to go through jurisdictions in many different countries and bypass numerous privacy laws in the process, quite often operating out of countries that are unwilling to help authorities in such matters. That's also assuming that a VPN provider is even logging IP addresses and requests, which is highly unlikely unless federally mandated.

And more moronic stuff about 'you open yourself up for it'. You open yourself up to all the dangers of the world by stepping out your front door, by waking up in the morning. What you're saying excuses the abhorrent behaviour of gutless f**ks like this, and gives them the justification in their own mind.

I'm not providing any justification whatsoever for the behaviour. What I am saying is that if you put yourself out on the internet, you take the good with the bad. Farah in the past has berated many people who disagreed with him or baited him, he has shown he is an easy target to get under his skin. As such you get morons who take great joy in doing so, this person is no different.

The UK has the right laws. A guy who abused the diver and said he let his late father down got arrested. There's a line in the sand. I bet plenty of twitter heroes thought twice after that.

Plenty of twitter heroes just make sure to cover their tracks now. I highly doubt it's made any significant impact on people with this mentality.

 

[gronkathon]

If Twitter is a community of my peers the world is f**king well doomed.

 

[Apey]

This is what you rightwing hyper free speech types don't understand. If you think he has a right to say those things, it's as good as agreeing with it.

You're either for it or against it.

Btw, it's not about pushing ones own version of morality on other people. This isn't about morals. This is about law and order. We don't allow anarchy in the streets so why should we allow it on the internet

As for your "just log out" suggestion. It shows ignorance about gen Y and younger society. If you "just log out" from social media it's like locking yourself out of a community of your peers. People use social media to network among their professional peers, for some it's used as the main way to study for and do schoolwork. For somepeople opening up social media in the morning is the equivalent of when their parents generation opened the morning paper.

There are people in there 20s now who have applied for and interviewed for every job they've ever had via social media.

Social media is becoming less and less a luxury and more and more an absolutely necessary part of daily life for young people.

And just like we have a right to walk down the street without being abused, we should have the right to be a part of social media without being abused.

:lol:

 

[BDR]

This is what you right hyper free speech types don't understand. If you think he has a right to say those things, it's as good as agreeing with it.

You're either for it or against it.

Btw, it's not about pushing ones own version of morality on other people. This isn't about morals. This is about law and order. We don't allow anarchy in the streets so why should we allow it in the streets.

As for your "just log out" suggestion. It shows ignorance about gen Y and younger society. If you "just log out" from social media it's like locking yourself out of a community of your peers. People use social media to network among their professional peers, for some it's used as the main way to study for and do schoolwork. For somepeople opening up social media in the morning is the equivalent of when their parents generation opened the morning paper.

There are people in there 20s now who have interviewed for jobs via social media.

Social media is becoming less and less a luxury and more and more an absolutely necessary part of daily life for young people.

And just like we have a right to walk down the street without being abused, we should have the right to be a part of social media without being abused.

This is the biggest load of drivel I've ever read, and that's saying something considering I've had the misfortune to read quite a few of your posts. Agreeing with somebody's right to say something IS NOT THE SAME as endorsing the message. I cannot believe I have to make this point to you. The concept of free speech exists solely to protect the right to say unpopular things (Yes I know this isn't in our constitution but it is still an inalienable human right in my opinion).

I am 21, I am at the beating heart of generation Y. Social media is NOT an essential part of life for f**k's sake. Even if it were, there are ways to self-moderate to protect yourself if you feel you can't handle being part of the mainstream twitter community. Robert Lui has a twitter account, he has it protected and only allows people he knows to tweet him and read his tweets. He has made a wise choice to protect himself from the tons of abuse he would have inevitably copped at the start of the year.

I'm not even going to pretend to understand your comment about law and order. There is no law against it, there is no order to be restored. Society will keep functioning irrespective of how many mean tweets are sent.

 

[Danish]

This is what you rightwing hyper free speech types don't understand. If you think he has a right to say those things, it's as good as agreeing with it.

You're either for it or against it.

:lol:


Are you actually saying that people should only have the right to say things that you agree with?

 

[Meth]

No thanks Farah, I'd rather the PM concentrate on real issues...

Perhaps you could use the Block function that is available on Twitter, and be the bigger man and realise some people are just merkins.

Fair enough. I'm certainly not saying that the PM needs to get involved, or that the internet needs to be more regulated. Just that these sorts of vile trolls ought not be tolerated/celebrated...which I'm sure everybody agrees with.

 

[BDR]

It's also hilarious that you call free speech a right wing idea.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

This is what you rightwing hyper free speech types don't understand. If you think he has a right to say those things, it's as good as agreeing with it.

You're either for it or against it.

Btw, it's not about pushing ones own version of morality on other people. This isn't about morals. This is about law and order. We don't allow anarchy in the streets so why should we allow it on the internet

As for your "just log out" suggestion. It shows ignorance about gen Y and younger society. If you "just log out" from social media it's like locking yourself out of a community of your peers. People use social media to network among their professional peers, for some it's used as the main way to study for and do schoolwork. For somepeople opening up social media in the morning is the equivalent of when their parents generation opened the morning paper.

There are people in there 20s now who have applied for and interviewed for every job they've ever had via social media.

Social media is becoming less and less a luxury and more and more an absolutely necessary part of daily life for young people.

And just like we have a right to walk down the street without being abused, we should have the right to be a part of social media without being abused.

You're a moron BM. Is that enough free speech for you?

 

[Henson Park Hornets]

The person who was behind these tweets has probably got exactly what they wanted a bit of fame and attention. Think what they wrote was vile but seems that it was sent to get a reaction out of Farah.

 

[de$$ie]

AND SO BEGINS THE SLIPPERY SLOPE TO INTERNET CENSORSHIP honestly dont be fooled, the internet is an open forum and anyone can voice their opinion, even scum. toughen up robbie plenty of people have copped the same shit as you, it's the internet you f**king merkin.

 

[Meth]

AND SO BEGINS THE SLIPPERY SLOPE TO INTERNET CENSORSHIP honestly dont be fooled, the internet is an open forum and anyone can voice their opinion, even scum. toughen up robbie plenty of people have copped the same shit as you, it's the internet you f**king merkin.

Yeah, toughen up Robbie. You should be able to laugh off a bloke saying that he will sexually violate your very recently deceased mother. :roll:

 

[Hooch]

You can't bully someone who is in a sound mental state into killing themselves. They have to start off already with a lot of mental issues and only then can something like bullying, teasing etc lead to them attempting such a thing.

Well I'd imagine the transition from 'sound' to 'unsound' mental state (however you intend to define that) is a function of bullying over time.

You're also a complete jack arse. 'Only mentally ill people kill themselves'. Great work Sigmund.

Hopelessness and suicide were around long before some arsewipe decided to codify it as a disease.

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Farah should shut the f**k up. The comments are obvious trolling. Why give it the air time? Call in the premier?! God, how pathetic.

Yeah, he's got every right to be offended, yeah I would be too if it happened to me a few months after my mum died... but this is just complete bullshit.

The laws in the UK are a disgrace. Sending some kid to jail for a racist comment. How utterly pathetic.

Honestly, Robbie is a bit of a sook at the best of times. Like Charlotte, he should just log out of twitter. It's an arsehole thing anyway.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Yeah, toughen up Robbie. You should be able to laugh off a bloke saying that he will sexually violate your very recently deceased mother. :roll:

Most people would call said person a pathetic scumbag and ignore it. In the case of online... Delete the offending post, and block the person... Instead of giving them their intended result of a pedestal and a bucketload of media attention.

You can be hurt by the comments, but if you show it, they win, and such idiocy will continue, with or without police intervention. That's the reality of it.

 

[Grapple]

No doubt what the dude said was tasteless and he probably deserves a smack, but anyone joining Twitter should know it's like leaving your door to your suburban house permanently open and then getting annoyed some dick head has come in and sh*t on your couch.


The problem is not that people can't be held accountable, it's that it freely allows anyone to join. Which means you either have to accept the fact there are all kinds of idiots out there online (and in the world in general) and continue using it with the chance they might make contact with you......or leave.

People whinging about social media problems forget the simple fact that it's not a necessity for everyday life, and you can join and leave at any time.... and you'd also probably be better off.

 

[Danish]

Well I'd imagine the transition from 'sound' to 'unsound' mental state (however you intend to define that) is a function of bullying over time.

You're also a complete jack arse. 'Only mentally ill people kill themselves'. Great work Sigmund.

If you would like to refute my assertion that suicide is a by-product of mental illness then go right ahead.

Hopelessness and suicide were around long before some arsewipe decided to codify it as a disease.

No shit. People also used to die from epileptic seizures while their family sat around chanting for the devil to leave their body as well. Medicine progresses.

Trying to teach parents, teachers, and society in general to be able to identify the early signs of mental illness and proceed with early intervention will go a lot further to reducing suicide rates than pointing fingers at cyber bullying.

 

[de$$ie]

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=8665317#post8665317

 

[DeeJ]

When will Robbie learn to stay off twitter: