Five Gone - Confirmed

[Saints Forever]

I dunno with all the neg, I get a very good feeling abou the Fijian flyer, as for Pearson he has some big raps on him I think theyre both clearly good buys

Hope you are right

 

[nontime111]

so do I....I just saw some Pearson vids man hes fast! now just for the defence and mungrel work Im sure he can be coached hes damn quick
Love to see some of the Fijian fells vids though anyone?

 

[Old Timer]

so do I....I just saw some Pearson vids man hes fast! now just for the defence and mungrel work Im sure he can be coached hes damn quick
Love to see some of the Fijian fells vids though anyone?

You really are an optimist if you think anyone can be coached "defence" at our club.
We have exactly the same errors in us now as what we did when good old Mc Fookknuckle and co came into the coaching ranks.
If the player doesn't have it hardwired as part of his DNA then he will not get better at anything whilst at our club.
Lomax thankfully is hardwired.

 

[possm]

The problem IMO is we are retaining old legs and giving them contract extensions.
What we have let go we needs to be replaced with big upgrades but what we have retained or signed is nowhere near an upgrade.
If weren't good enough this year then we certainly will not be better off for letting players go without upgrading them.
People getting their rocks of on Perreira just astounds me.
He did a job as well as he could do it when called upon and was very professional in doing it but he is certainly not a starting NRL winger for any club with premiership aspirations but in this place people think he is.

I agree and don't understand why some on here feel the Club has done well. I am glad we have signed some young wingers of size and speed however, they do not have extensive first grade experience. They aren't in contention for SOO selection.

I would have rather we:

1. Replaced Nightingale with Oats.
2. Got rid of Aitken and Lafai and replaced them with Lomax and Mann.
3. Now that Macdonald is gone, replace him with a first grade big/fast winger.
4. If funds are available buy fullback/centre as backup if Dufty does not work out during 2019.
5. Buy a big top grade prop.

 

[Belta]

I don’t won’t to sound like Mr negativity either.

BUT

Pearson wasn’t in FG, due to Isaako and Oates and we went further than Brisbane.

Ravalawa wasn’t in FG due to Cotric and Rapana and we went further than Canberra.

How about the grand finalist Melbourne and Roosters. Are we signing wingers of the quality that Melbourne or Roosters have on thier flanks next year?

Not saying they don’t have lots of potential and it maybe the break they need. It maybe a brilliant move. There is no certainties except for the fact that we truly are the bargain basement shoppers when it comes to our backline players.

 

[dwight12]

I don’t won’t to sound like Mr negativity either.

BUT

Pearson wasn’t in FG, due to Isaako and Oates and we went further than Brisbane.

Ravalawa wasn’t in FG due to Cotric and Rapana and we went further than Canberra.

How about the grand finalist Melbourne and Roosters. Are we signing wingers of the quality that Melbourne or Roosters have on thier flanks next year?

Not saying they don’t have lots of potential and it maybe the break they need. It maybe a brilliant move. There is no certainties except for the fact that we truly are the bargain basement shoppers when it comes to our backline players.

Not having a go at you but I think this is a very flawed comment. We went further than both Canberra and Brisbane and as you stated their wingers are Isaako and Oates and Cotric and Rapana. So by your logic because we went further than those 2 teams, our wingers are better? Therefor you wouldnt take any of the four wingers mentioned over our current ones?

 

[possm]

Not having a go at you but I think this is a very flawed comment. We went further than both Canberra and Brisbane and as you stated their wingers are Isaako and Oates and Cotric and Rapana. So by your logic because we went further than those 2 teams, our wingers are better? Therefor you wouldnt take any of the four wingers mentioned over our current ones?

I would take any two of Isaako, Oates, Cotric, Rapana over the wingers we had last year and the ones proposed by Millward for 2019. Both of our first choice wingers from 2018 are gone.

 

[Belta]

Not having a go at you but I think this is a very flawed comment. We went further than both Canberra and Brisbane and as you stated their wingers are Isaako and Oates and Cotric and Rapana. So by your logic because we went further than those 2 teams, our wingers are better? Therefor you wouldnt take any of the four wingers mentioned over our current ones?

I’m just highlighting areas that I see we are deficient in when comparing our opposing teams. I made the comments after reading earlier comments of how some believe we are not being positive about such recruitments. I feel we should be atleast the very least be keeping abreast with the others, and I fear we may not be in some vital areas (ie our wingers). I guess I was hoping (silly I know) that we were keeping Nene and possibly adding Oates or similar, but I’m still hopeful and ‘gambling’ on these (cheaper options) other chaps might end well after all, plus also JP.

 

[possm]

I’m just highlighting areas that I see we are deficient in when comparing our opposing teams. I made the comments after reading earlier comments of how some believe we are not being positive about such recruitments. I feel we should be atleast the very least be keeping abreast with the others, and I fear we may not be in some vital areas (ie our wingers). I guess I was hoping (silly I know) that we were keeping Nene and possibly adding Oates or similar, but I’m still hopeful and ‘gambling’ on these (cheaper options) other chaps might end well after all, plus also JP.

The problem is that if they turn out to be any good, their price will rise and possibly be beyond our cap capacity given that Millward thought he had bought at bargin price. The bargain will only be short term.

 

[Belta]

The problem is that if they turn out to be any good, their price will rise and possibly be beyond our cap capacity given that Millward thought he had bought at bargin price. The bargain will only be short term.

And if they don’t set the world on fire our halfback will be cannon fodder for the media clowns again

 

[ALSGI]

The problem is that if they turn out to be any good, their price will rise and possibly be beyond our cap capacity given that Millward thought he had bought at bargin price. The bargain will only be short term.

So if the Wingers turn out ok, and become more expensive it’s Milwards fault again ?
FMD.

 

[BLM01]

I agree and don't understand why some on here feel the Club has done well. I am glad we have signed some young wingers of size and speed however, they do not have extensive first grade experience. They aren't in contention for SOO selection.

I would have rather we:

1. Replaced Nightingale with Oats.
2. Got rid of Aitken and Lafai and replaced them with Lomax and Mann.
3. Now that Macdonald is gone, replace him with a first grade big/fast winger.
4. If funds are available buy fullback/centre as backup if Dufty does not work out during 2019.
5. Buy a big top grade prop.

Whilst I am not unhappy losing Nene, I believe there is that 1st grade winger / back etc and a prop still to come but not Oates (too expensive). Lets just sit back, wait and hope.

 

[BLM01]

The problem is that if they turn out to be any good, their price will rise and possibly be beyond our cap capacity given that Millward thought he had bought at bargin price. The bargain will only be short term.

Well thats great recruitment isnt it. Buying at the right price. Buy low / sell high. Same as the property market. Smart if it works out that way. The key is to offload over inflated priced pleyers who dont provide valueand worth to a team relative to their market standing price. I believe Dugan and Packer fell out of that value for their perceived market worth.

 

[BLM01]

I would take any two of Isaako, Oates, Cotric, Rapana over the wingers we had last year and the ones proposed by Millward for 2019. Both of our first choice wingers from 2018 are gone.

Thats 4 1st grade wingers out of total of 32 required to fill 16 teams. You cant have the best 2 and all those except for Oates who is over priced are not available.
Nene and Knighty gone. No loss from 2018's form. Knighty should of retired at the end of 17 and Nene is too hot and cold. You keep wishing for players we cant have ATM. You got to do you best with whats out there and available. Canberra wont let those 2 go for starters. Brisbane locked up Isaako as he wanted to stay there. Oates well well see what happens and is price is huge. I love him a s a player..but

 

[True_Believer]

So if the Wingers turn out ok, and become more expensive it’s Milwards fault again ?
FMD.

Surely you already knew this? In possm's head, Millward can never win.

 

[possm]

So if the Wingers turn out ok, and become more expensive it’s Milwards fault again ?
FMD.

No, I believe Millward to be a simple person who is in over his head. This position was gifted to him by the old boys - no advertising the position of interviews.

I truly believe that if the salaries being paid to NRL players plus the TPA, Millward would be embarrassed mainly because he has paid overs to our forward pack and halves at the expense of our back 5. In my opinion Millward takes the path of least resistance when it comes to negotiating with player managers.

 

[ALSGI]

No, I believe Millward to be a simple person who is in over his head. This position was gifted to him by the old boys - no advertising the position of interviews.

I truly believe that if the salaries being paid to NRL players plus the TPA, Millward would be embarrassed mainly because he has paid overs to our forward pack and halves at the expense of our back 5. In my opinion Millward takes the path of least resistance when it comes to negotiating with player managers.

No worries mate.

I get you don’t like Millward, but he’s not doing a bad job. We have an enviable forward pack and halves, locked up for a while.

Backs are the issue, yet we have Lomax and Dufty who are both going to improve and some promising others including Field. Then we have Aitken and Lafai who can be brilliant on their day, maybe Mann if he stays. Millward doesn’t select the 17 each week. Recruitment isn’t as hopeless as you’re making out. Let’s see what other player movements happen in the next month or so.

 

[ALSGI]

No, I believe Millward to be a simple person who is in over his head. This position was gifted to him by the old boys - no advertising the position of interviews.

I truly believe that if the salaries being paid to NRL players plus the TPA, Millward would be embarrassed mainly because he has paid overs to our forward pack and halves at the expense of our back 5. In my opinion Millward takes the path of least resistance when it comes to negotiating with player managers.

I think the squad looks pretty bloody good atm.

 

[Old Timer]

I think the squad looks pretty bloody good atm.

Not sure how you think that
No back up halves
No back up lock or FB
Very ordinary centres in Lafai & Aitken and no guarantee of Lomax getting a start straight up
Wingers are only newbies and the notion Perreira is a high quality 1st grade performer is laughable.
Our squad is paper thin and we continue to attract mid strength players only.

 

[Drakon]

No, I believe Millward to be a simple person who is in over his head. This position was gifted to him by the old boys - no advertising the position of interviews.

I truly believe that if the salaries being paid to NRL players plus the TPA, Millward would be embarrassed mainly because he has paid overs to our forward pack and halves at the expense of our back 5. In my opinion Millward takes the path of least resistance when it comes to negotiating with player managers.

Millward paid overs to the forward pack eh?
#1 - they happen to be one of the best forward packs around. Chock full of SOO players.
#2 - you say Millward should have kept Packer but the main reason he was let go was his asking price!

Hmmm