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Blair

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Pretty certain Roache, Ayshford and Matulino will be dipped next week

Or at least they'll get a stern talking to.

"Look, lads, the process clearly states, do NOT try too hard. I had the EXACT same conversation with Simon earlier in the season but just because HE will NOT listen doesn't mean YOU shouldn't, you know?"
 
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Not putting in:
Foran
Luke

Not good enough:
RTS
Kata
Maumalo
Lino
Bunty
Jazz

All will be picked again.

Papalii ok, Bell given nothing
Roach only bright spot.
 
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"If I thought wholesale changes would change things out there, I’d have made those changes.”

This is the problem, he is stating guys aren't putting in and he'll walk them to the gate if they clock off.
Then he says shit like that.

He needs the f**ken Super Nanny to come in and sort this shit out as players are confused as f**k about what is required of them, like children who have parents who keep making empty threats so they keep ignoring them and playing up!!!!!!!!!

If you say it, mean it! Simple.
 
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What a terrible quote from him for the guys underneath the top 17

They see the guys above them playing poorly, and then hear the coach say that they are not good enough to come up and play better than them. For example the Sipley guys by all accounts dominate most weeks, the guys above them serve up dross repeatedly, and they don't get a crack and hear that from the coach then why would they bother putting in and hanging around for a chance above
 
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Bulldogs lose 3-4 of their last games Des apparently gone. (Rabbits, Manly, Titans, Dragons)
Jim get on the phone.
 
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Warriorsoul

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Don't agree on RTS this week, but he's had a few shockers recently.
RTS is a great player, far better than he's showing at the Warriors at the moment. Is it the captaincy? Is he so busy trying to lead a busted flush of a team that he can't play his own game?
 

SpaceMonkey

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RTS is a great player, far better than he's showing at the Warriors at the moment. Is it the captaincy? Is he so busy trying to lead a busted flush of a team that he can't play his own game?

Bit of both probably. He's trying but distracted and can't just do what he does best.
 
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I feel sorry for RTS

Who other than S Kearney would think that it's a great idea to pick a quietly spoken, early 20s fullback coming back from a serious injury to lead an underperforming side
 

vvvrulz

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But you'd RTS would be trying a bit harder on the field. His head is often the first to go down, and some of his defensive work has been downright disgraceful.

In agreement though that he was a terrible captaincy choice, a real hospital pass from our genius coach.
 

Rich102

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Adam Blair. Really?

There's an apocalyptic crisis at the Warriors, and their solution is more of the same via a 31-year-old Broncos forward past his best who - and he won't be the first - can secure inflated final-contract wages because the Auckland club are desperate straw-clutchers.

Here's my solution: Eric Watson sells the club, and lets a new owner, or group of owners, start from scratch. They might even drop the Warriors, and try a new name.

Time is also up for chief executive Jim Doyle, whose specialty seems to be fantasy land pronouncements and bringing old mates to town.

This needs to be treated as the big-picture crisis which it is, not the chance for another grandiose, futile player announcement.

Watson's initially promising rescue/ownership of the Warriors - which means he virtually owns the game in this country - has turned into a hell-hole of a disaster.

Another run of lame NRL defeats via boring football under the stewardship of Steve Kearney - who should never have been appointed coach in the first place - has the club in such dire trouble that I'd suggest the prognosis is terminal.

The Warriors haven't just again failed to make the playoffs. They have failed to raise the pulse at all. Most of their scant seven victories have been against other struggling clubs, and even the traditional State of Origin-related surge failed to materialise as interest wanted.

These poor results have been exacerbated by boring, heavily patterned football, designed by a coach who has translated his stints at methodical Melbourne and Bennett's Brisbane into dross dressed up by the odd Shaun Johnson cameo. In reward for his role as the ineffective jester, Johnson gets to call himself a $1m man.

They are rocketing towards an audience of two men and a dog watching a dog, and my sadness at this runs as deep as the problems.

I hate to pick on new-ish forward Bunty Afoa, because he's a young bloke devoid of blame. But if the bog standard Afoa represents what the Warriors development programme is all about, they might as well pack up the tent, and let all Kiwi league fans go back to supporting Aussie clubs as many of them still do.

Yes, I strongly agree that a contingent of players steeled in Australia is vital as other commentators have opined, although recent recruitment lacks the inspiration and insight which brought the likes of Kevin Campion, Steve Price, Micheal Luck and James Maloney to Auckland.

But the formula should involve a contingent of brilliant locals, something that isn't emphasised enough.

The Warriors' past included a vein of x-factor - Stacey Jones, Manu Vatuvei, Henry Fa'afili, Francis Meli, Ali Lauitiiti, Sam Rapira, Lance Hohaia, Motu Tony, Nigel Vagana, Jerome Ropati, Ben Matulino, Konrad Hurrell et al. Nowadays those types end up at other NRL clubs.

You could only watch with horror recently as admirable Mason Lino battled his limitations in first grade, while offering one of the better short kicking games we've ever seen from a Warrior.

When another halfback Stacey Jones made his debut more than 20 years ago, we all knew it was the start of a potentially brilliant era. Lino? He is just as likely to be playing for Salford in two years time.

Chief among the sporting crimes has been the hiring of troubled Kieran Foran, who started negotiating with other clubs a few rounds into the current season. Foran's recruitment, to use the term very loosely, came with the stamp of approval from Kearney who - and I still can't believe any head coach would say this - seemed to regard Foran's health as the only issue.

Yet Kearney, whose brief head coaching record at Parramatta was awful, had the audacity to accuse some of his own players of not trying against Newcastle last week, having plonked the uncommitted Foran and his destabilising influence in their midst in the first place.

Meanwhile Doyle's blatant policy of recruiting people he knows can produce the odd result - Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was a terrific get. Apart from that, it might lead to fantastic barbecues, but the team gets fried.

Look at the club under Watson's ownership of late: the Owen Glenn co-ownership disaster, a crazy football advisory board featuring Sir Graham Henry, the ridiculous choice of Kearney over bringing back Ivan Cleary, the Foran disgrace, Johnson's inflated wages.

Is there anyone who really believes the current mob have any hope of turning this around?

If Watson sells up, who steps up? Can't answer that, sorry.

Maybe John Hart, whose underrated directorship under-pinned the eventually successful Cleary coaching era, can be persuaded to help put something together. That's all I can offer - more straw-clutching.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11900825
 

Skinner

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Rich, I really want to have your babies......except, I believe we both may be too old for shenanigans.
I think you have it all on the nail there though, my friend. I think you have it dead right on Watson and co,
all the way down to the latest round of dumb signings that include has beens, and players who are so far
past it, it's just not funny. What the hell is Tony Iro doing....why did they piss off guys like John Auckland,
Guys who had a fine eye for talent. It has to be a complete rebuild, or they are truly dead in the water, if
they are not already.....and I strongly suspect they are. The older hands on here know that I am not a hard
core fan, but I am a kiwi, who likes to see Kiwi teams do well.....in any code, and that includes this mob.
 

Cloudsurfer

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Jeez you guys are the most depressing part of all of this. here's an idea - instead of getting rid of everyone else why doesn't the most negative & vocal 'fans' of the warriors be let go (FO) and be replaced by the fan base of Newcastle, Canberra, Sharks - anyone else. Take your negativity & do what you all threaten to do and let people who don't buy into the 'cut people off at the knees', 'kick a man when he's down' attitude see the positive changes that are being heralded. Kiwis suck sometimes (and I am one) - we set the bar according to hype & then blame, blame, blame. Get a grip and wait it out...a change is coming & tbh I can't wait to say I told you so

Apologies, I know it comes from passion and a long, long wait for results & I know you want to see it all happen but as a visitor to this forum its like watching ground hog day, over and out...
 

Penrose Warrior

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Jeez you guys are the most depressing part of all of this. here's an idea - instead of getting rid of everyone else why doesn't the most negative & vocal 'fans' of the warriors be let go (FO) and be replaced by the fan base of Newcastle, Canberra, Sharks - anyone else. Take your negativity & do what you all threaten to do and let people who don't buy into the 'cut people off at the knees', 'kick a man when he's down' attitude see the positive changes that are being heralded. Kiwis suck sometimes (and I am one) - we set the bar according to hype & then blame, blame, blame. Get a grip and wait it out...a change is coming & tbh I can't wait to say I told you so

Apologies, I know it comes from passion and a long, long wait for results & I know you want to see it all happen but as a visitor to this forum its like watching ground hog day, over and out...

Never been more convinced you work for the club.

A change isn't coming. No change is coming. The coach and CEO are staying. The coach has proven he's learned nothing from extensive club and international stints under top coaches. The CEO might be able to balance a sheet but he can't get a culture and a successful on-field side going, and last week's comments about 'losing stronger' were incredibly weak. We're getting Tohu Harris and nothing else next year, maybe Adam Blair who many of us can see enjoying his final paid holiday, I mean contract here (this is a guy who's just said he doesn't want to leave Brisbane. He's been good in elite environments and awful in bad. He's 31 with miles on the clock. Any alarm bells?)

This forum is negative because it is given nothing to be positive about. Check back to 2007-2011, there might've been a bit of negativity but generally it would've been a chin up place to be.

Those fan bases you mentioned, they're no different. They get depressed like the rest of us. There's no more patience or optimism from any other fan base. Maybe Newcastle or the Sharks there are, because they actually know what it's like to win a comp. We're long suffering.
 
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