Forward passes

[Pete Cash]

5 pages of Albert Einsteins ...
Where do you draw the line then, when are we going to actually rule on a forward pass and not blame momentum

If the ball comes out the hands forward you plum. Like the rules say

 

[beave]

Up home in NQ, when catching mud crabs in set pots, we use very stinky bait in order to draw these renowned simpletons of the animal world out of their muddy holes.

This thread= Stinky bait

 

[Apey]

Gotta be a gee-up. They aren't really this dumb. Well... actually, both of them have form.

 

[Amin Yashed]

Up home in NQ, when catching mud crabs in set pots, we use very stinky bait in order to draw these renowned simpletons of the animal world out of their muddy holes.

This thread= Stinky bait

Mmmmm....mud crab. Wish I could catch them down here.

Last try for the rorters, another forward pass...touchie was right in line

 

[wibble]

Here is a diagram to demonstrate how impossible it is to run at full speed and throw the ball so it is not going forward.

(Not sure if the image is working. The sine of the angle that a ball is passed at multiplied by the speed of the pass, has to equal the player's forward running speed for the ball to not go forward).

I did some rough timing from the Eels match, when Jennings made the break leading to the first Eels try (ironically disputed by Roosters fans for a forward pass).

He was running at about 8 metres/second.

I timed some passes as well. A regular pass seems to be passed at about 10 metres per second.

So Jennings would have to pass the ball back at an angle of (Theta = sin^-1 8/10) 53 degrees for it to not travel forward.

To give you an idea of how ridiculous an angle that is if we required it from a team, if the players were spread the width of the field, and the far winger was in their corner, and the ball was played on the opposite edge, it would have to be played 90 metres in front of the far winger for the team to maintain that angle (68 metres times tan 53 degrees).

So those who want all passes ruled forward if the ball travels forward, to run at good speed and "compensate" with a deep backline, the backline has to be set 90 metres deep. Or play has to not go the width of the field, or players have to not be running fast when passing. Any of those is patently ridiculous (players not running when passing, not using the width of the field for a passing play, or setting the attacking line 90 metres deep) and would ruin the game as we know it.

If you are arguing anything other than the rule as it is, you clearly are just being obtuse or wilfully ignorant.

 

[The_Shield]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum. Imagine if that applied to other areas, tried to catch the ball but dropped it, that's fine not the players fault there's a thing called gravity

 

[thorson1987]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum. Imagine if that applied to other areas, tried to catch the ball but dropped it, that's fine not the players fault there's a thing called gravity

You really are a dumb merkin.

 

[Amin Yashed]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum. Imagine if that applied to other areas, tried to catch the ball but dropped it, that's fine not the players fault there's a thing called gravity

Wow the stupidity is rife with your comments.

 

[beave]

 

[wibble]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum. Imagine if that applied to other areas, tried to catch the ball but dropped it, that's fine not the players fault there's a thing called gravity

Not only is it "OK", it is the ONLY way the sport could work, assuming by "tries to throw it backwards" you mean "does throw it backwards relative to their hands".

Since you then use "tries" to mean "effort" is OK, that suggests you are attempting to equivocate. I would "try" to explain what that means, but you are obviously indifferent to anything we say if you think that we think "a good effort" is all that matters in a pass.

 

[thorson1987]

I think this thread has given me crabs.

 

[Amin Yashed]

Nice rusty buck num num num

 

[Canard]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum. Imagine if that applied to other areas, tried to catch the ball but dropped it, that's fine not the players fault there's a thing called gravity

That's even more geniused then your other comments.

For your own sake stop posting.

 

[The_Shield]

That's even more geniused then your other comments.

For your own sake stop posting.

Don't like what I write, then don't read it. Simply

 

[beave]

Don't like what I write, then don't read it. Simply

Simple is pretty easy to spell.
Unless you're a simpleton.

 

[Amin Yashed]

Don't like what I write, then don't read it. Simply

Lol...you mean "simple".

 

[Amin Yashed]

Simple is pretty easy to spell.
Unless you're a simpleton.

He's very much a simpleton. No doubt about that.

 

[wibble]

Don't like what I write, then don't read it. Simply

Well how about you address the many valid criticisms of your bizarre stance, and not worry about the (many possibly valid) criticisms of you.

If you advocate that the ball must not go forward or it is a forward pass then either (and probably several of these)-

1) Players can not pass while running forward with any degree of speed
2) Backlines have to be set 90 metres deep to "compensate"
3) Extreme angles of pass don't need deep backlines as long as only part of the width of the field is used e.g. the backline could be set "only" 45 metres deep if only half the width of the field is used

Which of these would you like? Can you see any problems with the game being played like this? Maybe not so attractive football, huh?

 

[The_Shield]

Simple is pretty easy to spell.
Unless you're a simpleton.

I'm on my phone, auto-correct f**ks up sometimes. If your really that concerned about a spelling error then that's your problem not mine

 

[Card Shark]

So the main opinion here is it's ok for a pass to go forward as long as the passer tries to throw it backwards because of physics and momentum.

It's the rules mate, rules that have been worked out for 110 years, to distinguish a fair pass.

Until we come up with a GPS means of determining forward or back, it's up to a refs interpretation & they don't get it wrong as much as some think.

If you don't like the rule, go follow America Football that permits forward passes. Then you'll have nothing to complain about.