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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Heisenberg

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This, mind you, is for a theoretical event we haven’t even bid on yet.
Absolutely. The 3 rectangle codes should be working together in the lead up to 2027 RWC.
Cutting it pretty fine for time to get anything major done but I’d love to see them justify upgrades to HBF, Newcastle and a new Canberra stadium. Only going to be pool games for RWC but the positive outcome for the NRL would be significant.
 

Bukowski

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Optus has the ability to add in an extra 5000 seats but for both sell out origins they havent used it. Makes no sense.

I saw it used once, i was sure it was for the first origin here. Was it the first double header?
 

bazza

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Absolutely. The 3 rectangle codes should be working together in the lead up to 2027 RWC.
Cutting it pretty fine for time to get anything major done but I’d love to see them justify upgrades to HBF, Newcastle and a new Canberra stadium. Only going to be pool games for RWC but the positive outcome for the NRL would be significant.
the time to lobby for those things is before the bid has been won
seems union are going for the oval stadiums in Adelaide and Perth
 

jim_57

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Since cricket will still be able to be played there it is still just lipstick on a pig. Also it is in a sh*t location. They should be selling off the land and building the harbour stadium as has been proposed on numerous occasions. This is just a compromise that delivers a Sydney Olympic style stadium with more bells and whistles, but still just a lemon of a viewing experience for half of the spectators.

It looks like the new Northern stand would make the field even smaller for cricket but still not great for rectangular sports. Mind you if the video is accurate the end seats would be close to the action and the majority of the sideline seats would be better than SA.

Waterfront stadium proposal does still look better. Hopefully while both are being deliberated Mt Smart can get upgrades as Warriors are selling it out regularly.
 

Brick Tamland

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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw...crapped-after-costs-soar-20230825-p5dzde.html

Penrith Stadium rebuild scrapped after costs soar​

Michael McGowan

ByMichael McGowan

August 25, 2023 — 12.24pm


The Minns government has abandoned plans for a complete rebuild of Penrith Stadium after discovering the cost of the project was likely to be more than triple what was originally promised under the Coalition.
The government will still spend $309 million on refurbishing the Penrith Panthers’ home ground, but a whole-sale rebuild on a neighbouring site has been abandoned.
A controversial rebuild of Penrith Stadium will be scaled down to only a partial redevelopment after costs for project were set to be three-times the initial estimate.

A controversial rebuild of Penrith Stadium will be scaled down to only a partial redevelopment after costs for project were set to be three-times the initial estimate.CREDIT:JAMES BRICKWOOD
Instead, the Herald has confirmed, the government is likely to commit to a partial redevelopment of the existing site after a review found the project promised by the then Coalition government would likely cost more than $900 million.
The Coalition had promised to spend $309 million building a new stadium, nominating the neighbouring Penrith Paceway occupied by the local harness racing club as a future site.

Former NSW sports minister and Penrith MP Stuart Ayres had been central in pursuing a compulsory acquisition of the Penrith paceway site, while the Coalition promised to turn the existing home ground into a public park.
Despite ditching plans to develop grounds including Leichardt Oval, Brookvale and Shark Park, the Coalition had committed to a new Penrith stadium and issued an acquisition order to the paceway’s operators in July last year.
However, last month Infrastructure NSW wrote to Penrith Paceway to confirm that a controversial compulsory acquisition of the site had been withdrawn. A spokesman for the agency confirmed that “no further commercial negotiations to acquire the site are going ahead”.
In April, the government commissioned former Roads and Maritime Services boss Ken Kanofski to conduct a review of NSW’s $115 billion infrastructure pipeline.
The review found the cost of the Penrith project had increased rapidly from the original $309 million on the back of spiralling construction costs.


Sports Minister Steve Kamper said that early estimates on the cost of the project had indicated that buying the Paceway Site and building a new stadium would cost more than $900 million dollars.

Liberal MP Stuart Ayres holds Penrith on a 0.6 per cent margin.

“The former Government’s plan to shift the stadium to the paceway site, would’ve tripled the cost,” he said.
“The Minns Government committed to reviewing major infrastructure projects to ensure they would
not go massively over budget. We will continue to work with government agencies and local stakeholders to finalise the design and delivery of the project.”
The Panthers declined to comment. However, sources at the club not permitted to speak publicly said the funding envelope would probably allow for a knockdown renovation of the ground’s main grandstand and improve other facilities. However, negotiations over the redevelopment were still in their infancy.

The plan to build a new Penrith Stadium was at the centre of the suburban stadiums war between former NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet and NRL boss Peter V’landys.
The dispute was sparked after V’landys accused Perrottet of reneging on a handshake deal to develop the other suburban grounds.
Paceway chief executive Tash Greentree declined to comment.
 

bazza

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think Penrith could do a re-build in stages
1. new western stand with improved corporate, media and player facilities. Maybe add 2k to capacity
2. new eastern stand with improved facilities. Maybe 2k extra capacity
3/4. Ends if needed

Even doing (1) should give them a better facility and a bit more capacity and should fit in the given budget of $309m
 

TheRam

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It looks like the new Northern stand would make the field even smaller for cricket but still not great for rectangular sports. Mind you if the video is accurate the end seats would be close to the action and the majority of the sideline seats would be better than SA.

Waterfront stadium proposal does still look better. Hopefully while both are being deliberated Mt Smart can get upgrades as Warriors are selling it out regularly.

Are they both being looked at right now?
 

Heisenberg

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the time to lobby for those things is before the bid has been won
seems union are going for the oval stadiums in Adelaide and Perth
You’re probably right and as it stands Canberra is likely to miss out as their stadium is not good enough.
 

bazza

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How in holy hell can a 30k stadium cost $900mill to build? Gold taps quoted? Looks like RL is going to get stiffed once again.
BankWest cost $300m and work started in 2016 - so would guess that would be about $600m today
Wonder what the average house around Parramatta cost in 2016 compared to today
 

Perth Red

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BankWest cost $300m and work started in 2016 - so would guess that would be about $600m today
Wonder what the average house around Parramatta cost in 2016 compared to today
Allianz opened only a year ago and cost $828mill for a bells and whistles 42,500 stadium.

Penrith didnt need to be as good as commbank. Not sure how much paceway was going to cost to purchase be geez thats some inflation on the cost of Allianz!

Construction is out of control in this country. They are building this amazing 60k stadium and surrounding sports area in Hong Kong for $600mill Aus

 

Wb1234

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Allianz opened only a year ago and cost $828mill for a bells and whistles 42,500 stadium.

Penrith didnt need to be as good as commbank. Not sure how much paceway was going to cost to purchase be geez thats some inflation on the cost of Allianz!

Construction is out of control in this country. They are building this amazing 60k stadium and surrounding sports area in Hong Kong for $600mill Aus

And allianz those bells and whistles added hugely to the cost

construction costs are also far cheaper out west

paceway acquisition cost was 25 millon approx
 

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