The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Wb1234]

One day a week they’ll train at Kogarah.

They had a 7-5 Wollongong-Kogarah split this year but Kogarah was a training base for WWC so that might have been why.

Hope so

they are building a 50 million coe at uni of Wollongong

 

[jim_57]

Hope so

they are building a 50 million coe at uni of Wollongong

The article just said they’ll train at Kogarah 1 day a week with an option for a 2nd day for Sydney based players. Wollongong still the majority base for training by the looks.

 

[Wb1234]

A soccer journo on Twitter is saying Auckland will get an a league side

if true then upgrades to my smart would be on the card with 2 tenants

 

[SpaceMonkey]

A soccer journo on Twitter is saying Auckland will get an a league side

if true then upgrades to my smart would be on the card with 2 tenants

*3 Tenants. Moana Pasifika Super Rugby plays out of Mt Smart too. But unless they (and the A League side) actually start pulling decent crowds it’s unlikely to Add much impetus for upgrades, it’ll mainly be the Warriors crowds doing that. Mt Smart is fine for teams that pull sub-15K crowds, the main grandstands will pretty much comfortably accomodate them .

 

[Pjf04b]

In my previous post, I argued for 20k minimum, but 25k is fine as well. There certainly needs to be a blanket rule or criteria in place for a venue to host a finals game.

If that is the case no team should play at home. Why should the teams blessed with government funded stadiums get home ground advantage?

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Steel Saints]

A soccer journo on Twitter is saying Auckland will get an a league side

if true then upgrades to my smart would be on the card with 2 tenants

One Auckland bid states that they will be at Mt Smart for a few years and then shift to Silo Park/Wynyard Quarter, which I think is the Waterfront.

Also by the look of it, the Auckland bid is ahead of Canberra.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

One Auckland bid states that they will be at Mt Smart for a few years and then shift to Silo Park/Wynyard Quarter, which I think is the Waterfront.

Also by the look of it, the Auckland bid is ahead of Canberra.

Silo Park.. interesting. Because THAT would actually be a pretty amazing spot for a new stadium and it’s currently a brownfield site, being where the old fuel terminal used to be. I had no idea it’s being turned into parkland, and if they’re intending to base an A-League side there someone must have plans to develop something there.

 

[shewi6]

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V’landys pushing for an upgrade to shark park for some reason, not much could be done to it now to bring it to a respectable level.

As usual no plan or funds committed, just him lobbying the government saying we deserve it, tribalism, blah blah blah.

Seems to be whining that cronulla missed out on CoE funding while other sydney clubs didn't, but I'm pretty sure the government committed money to the sharks as well just they couldn't put in their share of the money like the other clubs did.

 

[Pjf04b]

Penrith put there own $22m into their COE with no government funding.

 

[The Great Dane]

V’landys pushing for an upgrade to shark park for some reason, not much could be done to it now to bring it to a respectable level.

As usual no plan or funds committed, just him lobbying the government saying we deserve it, tribalism, blah blah blah.

Seems to be whining that cronulla missed out on CoE funding while other sydney clubs didn't, but I'm pretty sure the government committed money to the sharks as well just they couldn't put in their share of the money like the other clubs did.

I wonder if PVL could ever be convinced to push for a new stadium in Canberra, you know, a place where there isn't a single NRL standard stadium anymore, instead of incessantly making noise about wasting more taxpayer dollars on every little shithole in Sydney...

Any money spent of Shark Park is wasted money, just like Penrith.

 

[The Great Dane]

One Auckland bid states that they will be at Mt Smart for a few years and then shift to Silo Park/Wynyard Quarter, which I think is the Waterfront.

Also by the look of it, the Auckland bid is ahead of Canberra.

Talk around town is that things have been held up because the multiple investors whom were interested in backing the bid in the past have since moved on to invest in other clubs internationally, and aren't convinced that an A-league side in Canberra is worth the new $25mil asking price. That forced the bid to have to seek different arrangements.

The Civic stadium being officially scrapped and replaced with plans to rebuild/upgrade Bruce, and those plans being put even further on the backburner, is supposedly somewhat of sticking point as well. Again it's just talk, so it could be nonsense, but at the same time I can totally believe that there'd be some concerns about the viability of the club if they're based out of Bruce long term.
Playing out of Bruce can shave thousands off attendance, and it's impacting the Brumbies so badly that they're trailing playing a match out of Manuka next year, so it could definitely hurt an A-league side.

There's also speculation that the new men's club taking over Canberra United has caused some issues as well.

 

[Jamberoo]

Talk around town is that things have been held up because the multiple investors whom were interested in backing the bid in the past have since moved on to invest in other clubs internationally, and aren't convinced that an A-league side in Canberra is worth the new $25mil asking price. That forced the bid to have to seek different arrangements.

The Civic stadium being officially scrapped and replaced with plans to rebuild/upgrade Bruce, and those plans being put even further on the backburner, is supposedly somewhat of sticking point as well. Again it's just talk, so it could be nonsense, but at the same time I can totally believe that there'd be some concerns about the viability of the club if they're based out of Bruce long term.
Playing out of Bruce can shave thousands off attendance, and it's impacting the Brumbies so badly that they're trailing playing a match out of Manuka next year, so it could definitely hurt an A-league side.

There's also speculation that the new men's club taking over Canberra United has caused some issues as well.

Surely RU @ Manuka is not a good idea. It is longer and wider than the SCG.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Surely RU @ Manuka is not a good idea. It is longer and wider than the SCG.

Atmosphere at the NRL games I’ve seen there looked bleak on TV.

 

[jim_57]

V’landys pushing for an upgrade to shark park for some reason, not much could be done to it now to bring it to a respectable level.

As usual no plan or funds committed, just him lobbying the government saying we deserve it, tribalism, blah blah blah.

Seems to be whining that cronulla missed out on CoE funding while other sydney clubs didn't, but I'm pretty sure the government committed money to the sharks as well just they couldn't put in their share of the money like the other clubs did.

V’Landys picks this to make noise about when the Sharks have done all this to their own stadium? They’ve literally boxed it in with apartments and the LC but now it should be up to the government to fix?

Meanwhile little to nothing about Canberra, Auckland, Newcastle or Wollongong who could all do with some help getting upgrades or new stadiums across the line. Make some noise about those.

 

[The Great Dane]

Surely RU @ Manuka is not a good idea. It is longer and wider than the SCG.

These are the sort of decisions that clubs are forced into making when they're desperate and there're no other options.

It's cheaper to rent, it's capacity is more suitable for the Brumbies average crowd, it's in a much better location, across the road from pubs, restaurants, shops, etc. RU also has a storied history of playing games there in the past that they're calling on. It basically fits their needs better in every way except for the fact that it's an oval.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Brumbies aren't around in a decade given how rough they've had it. The crazy thing is that pretty much all their struggles are outside of their control. They're doing pretty much everything right and still failing because the ARU are f**k ups and the ACT gov doesn't care.

 

[Wb1234]

These are the sort of decisions that clubs are forced into making when they're desperate and there're no other options.

It's cheaper to rent, it's capacity is more suitable for the Brumbies average crowd, it's in a much better location, across the road from pubs, restaurants, shops, etc. RU also has a storied history of playing games there in the past that they're calling on. It basically fits their needs better in every way except for the fact that it's an oval.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Brumbies aren't around in a decade given how rough they've had it. The crazy thing is that pretty much all their struggles are outside of their control. They're doing pretty much everything right and still failing because the ARU are f**k ups and the ACT gov doesn't care.

It’s a reflection on where super rugby is in Australia now

raiders don’t have any problems getting crowds at Bruce

 

[Timbo]

Atmosphere at the NRL games I’ve seen there looked bleak on TV.

I think we’ve only ever played one game there, when the Brumbies had a Super Rugby grand final back when people really cared about Super Rugby.

Wasn’t great as I recall. I think we set the field up so it wasn’t in the middle of the ground, but as close to the fence on the broadcast side as possible, then only sold tickets on that side. Was a really weird setup.

But as far as locations for a venue, it leaves Bruce for dead.

 

[Perth Red]

V’Landys picks this to make noise about when the Sharks have done all this to their own stadium? They’ve literally boxed it in with apartments and the LC but now it should be up to the government to fix?

Meanwhile little to nothing about Canberra, Auckland, Newcastle or Wollongong who could all do with some help getting upgrades or new stadiums across the line. Make some noise about those.

Given the ugly side is always going to be the way the cameras point its always going to look a sht box sadly. Dont even now what they could do to get capacity to 25k now?