The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Perth Red]

Sure I agree with all that. But I am only referring to the money spent by both the NRL and Storm on junior development. That is in the vicinity of around $20m over the last couple of decades from what I have heard on shows like 360 and the like.

With nothing other then developing out of state juniors to show for it. Very disappointing to say the least.

Like I said though that money, at least at the Storms end is in elite jnr development from U16's upwards. Until there is a big pool of U15's playing in Victoria, Storm wont have a big pool of very talented 16 year olds to move into their elite systems. The NRL need to fund NRLVic properly and NRLVic need to get more kids playing the game with this extra money. If they are funded anything like NRLWA its a pittance compared to what the AFL is spending in NSW and Qland.

But this is nothing to do with stadiums and a mod needs to move it to the Jnr RL thread!

 

[TheRam]

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Not really. There are only 16 RL clubs in Victoria (not including a coupe of Riverina clubs like Wodonga), all in outer suburbs or towns just outside Melbourne - there is not one club within 20km of AAMI Park where most of Melbourne lives. There are just over 100 teams so perhaps 1500 - 1800 players. It is growing, but from a very low base.

Like I said. Almost nothing to show for all the time, success and money over the last twenty years. Just standard practice for the game of RL. Steady as you go. All is well. We are the best. How great is Melbourne going. Yeah!

 

[beave]

You don’t count if you’re polynesian

 

[TheRam]

Like I said though that money, at least at the Storms end is in elite jnr development from U16's upwards. Until there is a big pool of U15's playing in Victoria, Storm wont have a big pool of very talented 16 year olds to move into their elite systems. The NRL need to fund NRLVic properly and NRLVic need to get more kids playing the game with this extra money. If they are funded anything like NRLWA its a pittance compared to what the AFL is spending in NSW and Qland.

Exactly my point though. Nothing will be done you can bank on it. The NRL is always crying poor. There is no way that they will fund anything major in Victoria. They gave all the major bucks to the players, without so much as a whimper from the media at the time.

Now though, there is some noise after the fact by wankers like Kent and others, but as always to little to late. At the time he and others condoned the increase in player payments and said they deserved it and that it was about right. Now I heard him say the other month, they took to much to the detriment of the game. What a spineless hypocrite.

But it is all academic now. The NRL will be so behind the eight ball by the end of this current TV deal that it will not matter anymore, no matter about who wins the television ratings. We have been doing just fine in ratings for ever and see where that has gotten us over the years. Second fiddle to the fumblers and that is how it will stay unless the NRL actually does something about it.

 

[TheRam]

You don’t count if you’re polynesian

Read my post or are you to stupid to understand anything other then the word RACIST that is constantly going through you pea sized mind?

 

[Perth Red]

There's an extra $10mill year (which had been promised as $20mill a year!) supposedly going to grass roots. Hopefully it doesn't disappear into the NSW and Qland cup teams pockets liek the last major increase in "grass roots" funding.

I dont mind the club grant increasing significantly, though I would have made them work for it more. The clubs now have no excuses for not being sustainable and if they fall over then there is no one to blame but themselves. The NRL has done what it needs to do to keep them afloat, now its up to them.

With a hoped for $500mill revenue a year and $234mill going to NRL clubs there should be plenty left over for grass roots!~

 

[herbert henry1908]

Haven't they produced juniors that have gone on to be regular 1st graders? That is all I am saying and as time moves on the trickle becomes a current, becomes a wave, becomes a tsunami. We have produced NO ONE!

They are in it for the long haul, 30-50 year plan as stated by their board. We are in it for the powerful clubs as stated by everyone who knows anything about RL for the last 110 years.

In the 35 years of the swans in Sydney I think there’s been about 5-6 Sydney locals play for them.

But the Sydney sporting landscape is much more fragmented than Melbourne, at least 2 of those swans players came from a rugby union school for instance.

 

[TheRam]

There's an extra $10mill year (which had been promised as $20mill a year!) supposedly going to grass roots. Hopefully it doesn't disappear into the NSW and Qland cup teams pockets liek the last major increase in "grass roots" funding.

I dont mind the club grant increasing significantly, though I would have made them work for it more. The clubs now have no excuses for not being sustainable and if they fall over then there is no one to blame but themselves. The NRL has done what it needs to do to keep them afloat, now its up to them.

With a hoped for $500mill revenue a year and $234mill going to NRL clubs there should be plenty left over for grass roots!~

No club will ever fall over as long as they are getting the grant. They will run last forever if need be as long as they are getting the grant. The NRL were stupid monkeys to promise each club a guaranteed grant without any real and binding KPI's attached. Now the only guarantee that they have ensured is that we will always have a saturated market of at least 3 or 4 crappy performing teams like Parramatta in any given year. Hardly a great outcome for the long term future of the NRL.

While areas like where you reside are going to have to wait at least another 5 years of nothingness.

And for the people that say that it doesn't matter that we have so many teams in one city and look at Melbourne, well when we have Sydney clubs that can boost 80k memberships and average crowds over 40k then come and talk to me. We are not as transfixed on our footy as they are. The numbers show that. Sydney is a snobby city. Only one thing really matters in this city and that is winning and even then that lustre can quickly wear off and if you are the Rooster, it never really wore on.

 

[TheRam]

In the 35 years of the swans in Sydney I think there’s been about 5-6 Sydney locals play for them.

But the Sydney sporting landscape is much more fragmented than Melbourne, at least 2 of those swans players came from a rugby union school for instance.

Still 5 or 6 times more then anything that Melbourne have been able to produce. Like I said, at first it will be a trickle, then it will go from there. They are still in the trickle stage. The next decade or so will be the turning point unless something unforeseen happens to their strategy, which is highly unlikely. They're in it for the long term. The NRL/Clubs are in it for themselves and the NOW.

 

[Suitman]

Can someone please explain to me what any of this current discussion has anything to do with future NRL stadiums?
Take it elsewhere guys. FFS!

 

[Suitman]

Anyway, another bid for a new A-League licence announced today, with a self funded stadium included. No govt money required - a bit like the southern Sydney bid. This time in the western burbs of Melbourne.
Might not have any relevance to RL, but at least it's another possible rectangular stadium in the land of the sharron and sleeveless 1 pointers.

 

[TheRam]

Anyway, another bid for a new A-League licence announced today, with a self funded stadium included. No govt money required - a bit like the southern Sydney bid. This time in the western burbs of Melbourne.
Might not have any relevance to RL, but at least it's another possible rectangular stadium in the land of the sharron and sleeveless 1 pointers.

Link please Suity. How much will it cost and what capacity is it? Who is funding it?

 

[TheRam]

Don't bother. Just looked it up. 15K very small. Should be at least 25k. Then it would be awesome.

 

[Suitman]

Link please Suity. How much will it cost and what capacity is it? Who is funding it?

https://dailyfootballshow.com/western-melbourne-group-plans-european-football-metropolis/

I don't believe the pics of the stadium though. Bit of fluff imo. They claim it to be 15000 capacity.
It looks way more than that, so the pics will be nothing like the final product.
Still, it's rectangular, and it's in Mexico. Good stuff.

 

[TheRam]

https://dailyfootballshow.com/western-melbourne-group-plans-european-football-metropolis/

I don't believe the pics of the stadium though. Bit of fluff imo. They claim it to be 15000 capacity.
It looks way more than that, so the pics will be nothing like the final product.

Probably right, cos those pictures make it look better then the $360m Parramatta Stadium.

 

[beave]

Can someone please explain to me what any of this current discussion has anything to do with future NRL stadiums?
Take it elsewhere guys. FFS!

Waiting for my Friday Parra stadium update Suity.....

 

[Suitman]

Waiting for my Friday Parra stadium update Suity.....

Haha!
Sorry champ. I was down there again yesterday. They've added another few bays of concrete terracing to the north end so vision is now becoming very limited as to what's happening in the rest of the stadium.
Level 2 of the corporate side is progressing nicely and the concourse on the western side is almost complete.
Another roof truss was being installed when I was there so they are 3/4 r's of the way up the eastern stand with roof covering.
Also, it appears they have ramped up some of the external works for car parks and eastern concourse areas.
It really is progressing quickly.
I didn't take a pic because it really didn't look much different to last week to the untrained eye.
Sorry.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Still 5 or 6 times more then anything that Melbourne have been able to produce. Like I said, at first it will be a trickle, then it will go from there. They are still in the trickle stage. The next decade or so will be the turning point unless something unforeseen happens to their strategy, which is highly unlikely. They're in it for the long term. The NRL/Clubs are in it for themselves and the NOW.

Interestingly though pretty much all of them have been in the last 10-15 years, so the storm still have time. But as I say, the Melbourne market is tougher to crack.

 

[greenBV4]

Still, it's rectangular, and it's in Mexico. Good stuff.

According to Western Melbourne Group officials, the planned stadium would emulate the boutique atmospheres of Europe, with seats starting close to the touchline, grandstands at a high angle and a cauldron-like setting preventing noise from escaping.

Said officials were also at pains to declare that the private nature of the stadium meant that the proposed stadium would be football specific, with no other sports to be held on a surface that one bid official described as “sacred.”

- https://dailyfootballshow.com/western-melbourne-group-plans-european-football-metropolis/

Sounds like it wouldn't be big enough for nrl anyway

 

[El Diablo]

And for all you imbeciles for the umpteenth time, the reason I have pointed out the lack of non Maori/Islander juniors is because Maori/Islander are rusted on supporters of the game. Hardly converts.

racist knob