The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[horrie hastings]

Couldn't find a screen grab anywhere but there was a good shot on one of the news this morning of a very waterlogged building site of the WSS.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I think the main advantage of suburban grounds is that they are in the suburbs and easier for suburbanites to access (the people who actually care about League).

Better facilities are great but I'd rather drive 5 minutes to stand on a hill than drive 2 hours to sit in a seat.

Its only a 5 minute drive if the stadium is in YOUR suburb. For the other 5 million people in Syndey, the suburban ground is just as far away as the stadium is likely to be.

The difference is that the stadium will have major transport links and will be designed for crowds of 50k. Meanwhile, the suburban ground is in a suburb that gets gridlocked by a crowd if 10k

 

[Suitman]

Couldn't find a screen grab anywhere but there was a good shot on one of the news this morning of a very waterlogged building site of the WSS.

Not surprising, but this stadium build has had an incredible run with the weather over the 18 month course of the build so far. Probably partly responsible for it being such a quick build.
In saying that, there is much of the stadium that is under cover now so much of the internal works could continue on wet weather days.

 

[axl rose]

Not surprising, but this stadium build has had an incredible run with the weather over the 18 month course of the build so far.
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If only Central Coast stadium had that much luck the Bears would still be playing NRL.

 

[Quicksilver]

Its only a 5 minute drive if the stadium is in YOUR suburb. For the other 5 million people in Syndey, the suburban ground is just as far away as the stadium is likely to be.

The difference is that the stadium will have major transport links and will be designed for crowds of 50k. Meanwhile, the suburban ground is in a suburb that gets gridlocked by a crowd if 10k

Luckily the clubs were originally based around geographical locations. So the vast majority of fans for most clubs do tend to live within close proximity to their team's ground. Sydney is a big city. Spreading the playing venues out makes sense. The population catchment for each is still the equivalent to regional teams.

I'll tell ya, most codes would kill for what the NRL has in Sydney. They'd kill. The A League are trying their best to replicate the spread with these new dream stadiums proposed for the the south and south-west.

We don't appreciate how lucky we are.

We want to destroy our natural advantage. Madness.

 

[Last Week]

 

[siv]

Luckily the clubs were originally based around geographical locations. So the vast majority of fans for most clubs do tend to live within close proximity to their team's ground. Sydney is a big city. Spreading the playing venues out makes sense. The population catchment for each is still the equivalent to regional teams.

I'll tell ya, most codes would kill for what the NRL has in Sydney. They'd kill. The A League are trying their best to replicate the spread with these new dream stadiums proposed for the the south and south-west.

We don't appreciate how lucky we are.

We want to destroy our natural advantage. Madness.

Clubs were actually built around government 1893 electorates

Easts - Paddington
Souths - South Sydney & Redfern
Glebe
Balmain
Newtown
Wests and Norths were larger rural regions

 

[ReddFelon]

I think the main advantage of suburban grounds is that they are in the suburbs and easier for suburbanites to access (the people who actually care about League).

Better facilities are great but I'd rather drive 5 minutes to stand on a hill than drive 2 hours to sit in a seat.

Could just take the train.

 

[Quicksilver]

Could just take the train.

A train from Manly to anywhere is a bit of a doozy.

In general that is true though. Public transport is a much better option. But the equation still remains. If the stadium is closer to the people it’s easier for them to attend.

People don’t want to commit their whole day or night to going to the footy. Unless they are trying to raise fat little rugby props. Then they don’t need to take the kids to weekend activities/sports.

 

[gallagher]

That is true. Of course, the crowd numbers at Campbelltown and Leichhardt will also look relatively poor because they only get the less desirable games.

To a certain degree. We got 18k v the dogs at homebush this year. I'd call that a less than desirable game. Oddly when it was there home ground it only drew about 8k.

 

[Brutus]

I knew the AFL wouldn't miss out on NSW State government money.

Looks like the Hordern Pavillion and Royal Hall of Industries buildings are being turned into a top shelf Sydney Swans and NSW Swifts training centre

 

[horrie hastings]

I knew the AFL wouldn't miss out on NSW State government money.

Looks like the Hordern Pavillion and Royal Hall of Industries buildings are being turned into a top shelf Sydney Swans and NSW Swifts training centre

Yep the RHI is being taken over by the Swans and Clover Moore is having a hissy fit over it plus over the Roosters wanting to use a car park in the EQ as a temporary office and training facility .While I agree with Clover being p*ssed off about the RHI being turned into camp Swans I cannot understand her opposition to a temporary facilicity from the Roosters in a very little used part of the entertainment quarter while the SFS is being rebuilt.

 

[macavity]

I knew the AFL wouldn't miss out on NSW State government money.

Looks like the Hordern Pavillion and Royal Hall of Industries buildings are being turned into a top shelf Sydney Swans and NSW Swifts training centre

How long will we have to wait for the hanky head tantrum?

 

[Prometheus]

The what?!?

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Luckily the clubs were originally based around geographical locations. So the vast majority of fans for most clubs do tend to live within close proximity to their team's ground. Sydney is a big city. Spreading the playing venues out makes sense. The population catchment for each is still the equivalent to regional teams.

I'll tell ya, most codes would kill for what the NRL has in Sydney. They'd kill. The A League are trying their best to replicate the spread with these new dream stadiums proposed for the the south and south-west.

We don't appreciate how lucky we are.

We want to destroy our natural advantage. Madness.

“...the vast majority of fans for most clubs do tend to live within close proximity to their team's ground”

Do you have anything that backs this claim up?

Because that sounds made up...

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

A train from Manly to anywhere is a bit of a doozy.

In general that is true though. Public transport is a much better option. But the equation still remains. If the stadium is closer to the people it’s easier for them to attend.

People don’t want to commit their whole day or night to going to the footy. Unless they are trying to raise fat little rugby props. Then they don’t need to take the kids to weekend activities/sports.

If that trains in and out of Manly is so bad, surely that would be the WORST place to have a stadium.

If the stadium is somewhere else, at least locals are only dealing with normal shitty traffic congestion.

But for the stadium IN Manly, you are asking 20k people to converge on this rats nest of traffic.

 

[Perth Red]

A train from Manly to anywhere is a bit of a doozy.

In general that is true though. Public transport is a much better option. But the equation still remains. If the stadium is closer to the people it’s easier for them to attend.

People don’t want to commit their whole day or night to going to the footy. Unless they are trying to raise fat little rugby props. Then they don’t need to take the kids to weekend activities/sports.

I think part of the issue is number of crap ko times we have. It’s not so bad travelling for an hour to a game if you’re doing it on an afternoon but no one wants to be doing it at night and not getting home until 11pm. Whilst no doubt suburban grounds are more convenient they aren’t excatly popular with most of them having some of the smallest crowd avg’s In the Comp, and can you imagine trying to sell corporate boxes at these grounds to big companies when you’re up against stadiums with facilities like wss will have? We’re e not far off Sydney having 3-4 decent stadiums, what happens to those who can’t or won’t move to them time will tell. The nrl should be having discussions with St’s sharks and Gallop about pushing for a new southern Sydney stadium for three tenants.

 

[beave]

Latest NQ stadium

Pic courtesy of the stampede FB page.

 

[firechild]

If that trains in and out of Manly is so bad, surely that would be the WORST place to have a stadium.

If the stadium is somewhere else, at least locals are only dealing with normal shitty traffic congestion.

But for the stadium IN Manly, you are asking 20k people to converge on this rats nest of traffic.

So people bitch and moan that Manly fans don't travel away from the beaches yet people like you insist that Manly should relocate their games to a larger stadium. Sounds like a genius move.

 

[Quicksilver]

“...the vast majority of fans for most clubs do tend to live within close proximity to their team's ground”

Do you have anything that backs this claim up?

Because that sounds made up...

Sorry I just went and checked this and it turns out I was wrong.

The vast majority of Sharks fans actually live in Penrith. And the vast majority of Panthers fans actually live in the Shire.

I apologise. I better rethink.