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Future NRL Stadiums

Suitman

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LOL at the Flemington suggestion. There's an 80 000 seat stadium about 3 minutes drive from there. It won't happen.
Expanding and renovating Parra stadium is the best bet for a western Sydney option.


Suity
 

Sixgill

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Perhaps NRL fans don't want rationalisation of grounds.

We don't have to do everything AFL does your know.

The atmosphere at smaller grounds far outshines anything at the stadiums, the way a lot of people like it.

I'd rather a sellout at a suburban ground than the same amount or even 5000 more at a stadium.
 

M2D2

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Cronulla will never play at SFS when they own their own ground.
It will be shark park or bust.
 

docbrown

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It would have to be 40K in Sydney's west. I think otherwise it would become redundant to fast (given that a stadium should last at least 30yrs).

I always think that at Flemington Markets, there is the potential there to build a great stadium (and the markets could still exist, as it just isn't using the area like it used to anymore), great transport with the M4, Parramatta Rd to take you East/West, and Homebush bay drive to take you North/South. Also with Flemington station nearby, it has all the major train lines going past it to service the west. Not to mention the area sucks currently, and a stadium like this would revitalise the area somewhat.

I said once before that Stadium Australia should have been at Rockwood Cemetary. Almost every major rail line stops at the junction there. You'd get off at Lidcombe and be about 200 metres from the entrance.
 

Dragonwest

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Perhaps NRL fans don't want rationalisation of grounds.

We don't have to do everything AFL does your know.

The atmosphere at smaller grounds far outshines anything at the stadiums, the way a lot of people like it.

I'd rather a sellout at a suburban ground than the same amount or even 5000 more at a stadium.

The goal wouldn't be for a crowd of 5000 more people than suburban ground, it would be to regualarly sellout 40,000-60,000 stadiums within the next 8-10 yrs. Build the atmosphere to a point where the casual fan is drawn to games.
 

RLNY

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Personally, what I would like to see happen is have the new IC partner up with the A League to build a new stadium in West Sydney and renovate SFS. I would also focus on building a new stadium in Manly/North Shore area and renovate Campbelltown Stadium. Furthermore, I think ANZ Stadium should only be used for SOO/Grand Finals. I think clubs allowed to renovate/stage games in "suburban" like Leichhart and Belmore, but the main focus of the IC in terms of stadia for the Sydney clubs should be what I outlined above. The goal for the IC/NRL is to allow each Sydney club to play its games in modern/accessable stadiums.
 

Desert Qlder

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Surely a balance will be struck.

Articles like this act to do nothing more than stir the pot.

Canterbury are not looking to return to Belmore fulltime. Far from it. For anyone to suggest them playing say, North Queensland or Canberra at their traditional home ground is a bad idea is just ludicrous. It would be a fabulous initiative in which everyone would benefit.

I wouldn't think NRL clubs would be looking to do anything more than that.
 

bazza

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Surely a balance will be struck.

Ideally I would like to see something like this in Sydney:

a. Each team has a quality 'boutique' stadiums. Capacity 10 - 20k. Mostly seated and undercover with lighting, media facilities.
b. Play 2+ home games at Homebush (Parra, Penrith, Tigers, Dogs) or SFS (Souths, Roosters, Manly, Saints, Sharks) on condition that there are improvements to these venues e.g roof, transport, other facilities
 

Quidgybo

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The goal wouldn't be for a crowd of 5000 more people than suburban ground, it would be to regualarly sellout 40,000-60,000 stadiums within the next 8-10 yrs. Build the atmosphere to a point where the casual fan is drawn to games.
In 8-10 years? Not a chance. 35,000 *average* within say 25 years? That's an ambitious but realistic goal. But we'll never get there if we insist on going backwards to small, unsheltered grounds, tucked away in residential backstreets with poor public transport and dodgy toilets.

Leigh
 

beave

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http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/02/16/306211_news.html

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Concept plan of the proposed joint facility for the Cowboys and Crocodiles which would include an entertainment centre and convention facilities

AN artist's impression of the proposed Townsville "super stadium" has been revealed by the project's champions.

The venue, earmarked for a location near the CBD, would co-locate home grounds for the Cowboys and Crocodiles and could be used for performances and functions.

The State Government has agreed to fund a feasibility study into the proposal, which would replace bids for a separate convention centre and football stadium.

Cowboys CEO Peter Jourdain said the venue could be the "precinct for the future", creating a sport and entertainment hub for local, national and world events.

Mr Jourdain said it made sense to fund one stadium with shared amenities at the same site instead of building two separate facilities.

"There is certainly going to be some synergy and savings to be made," he said.

"The Crocodiles and Cowboys, Townsville Enterprise and Townsville City Council are all trying to work together to conceptually see whether we can get a fantastic result for Townsville and North Queensland."

Along with the outdoor and indoor sports stadiums, the drawings show extensive space for parking, administration space, a bus terminal and a range of facilities to be shared by the national clubs.

"I think it would be great - we could share recovery facilities, pools and gymnasiums, as well as kitchen and corporate facilities between the two venues," Mr Jourdain said.

"That would hopefully decrease the overall cost. It would be a precinct for the future, not just for sporting events but for international performing artists as well."

Crocodiles CEO Ian Smythe said cities across the world were "reaping the benefits" of building sports facilities close to the city centre.

He said it was important that the project reflected the needs of the council and business community, as well as those of the clubs.

"The Cowboys and Crocs are genuinely trying to find a way to work together for the betterment of the community," he said.

"As the second capital of Queensland, we would like to think we could have a world-class facility and that the people of Townsville would be able to catch a bus into the city and see a world-class act at a world-class facility."

Mr Smythe said the reliability of the existing entertainment centre was a week-to-week proposition, with the prospect of equipment failure a constant fear.

"At the moment we're relying on the staff to keep the old girl in shape," he said.

"We spent a lot of years establishing a reputation as a great regional city and it would be absolutely embarrassing if it got to the stage where our one and only venue had an equipment failure and we were unable to use it."

LNP leader Campbell Newman was not enthused by the plan but said he would "view it in a supportive way".

"But this state is heading for $85 billion worth of debt in 2 1/2 years' time, we've got a $4 billion underlying budget deficit and we need to deal with that," he said.

"I won't just be making promises willy-nilly.

"Right now I'm in no position to make any commitment to this - though very worthy - sports complex."

In the event that Crocs and Cowboys game days co-incide, Mr Jourdain said the facility could handle it.

"That is a slim possibility, but if it did happen, we'd make it work," he said.

"They would certainly be at different times - we might be able to sell a double ticket."

Townsville Enterprise CEO David Kippin said the facility was an ideal stimulus for development of the CBD.

"From the city's perspective, it provides better access and better parking and it provides a stimulus for CBD activity," Mr Kippin said.

"Pre and post events, people have the ability to use the city's facilities."

Mr Kippin said the experience in other cities was that sporting infrastructure revitalised the CBD, lifted property values and provided a benefit for retail, hospitality and accommodation businesses.

"It's an ideal stimulus for CBD development," he said.
 

beave

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Again, this would be awesome for NQ but stadiums QLD need to be kept well away from it.
 

Quidgybo

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Both pictures are still fundamentally wrong - they've got the stadium running east-west...

Leigh.
 

Dragonwest

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In 8-10 years? Not a chance. 35,000 *average* within say 25 years? That's an ambitious but realistic goal. But we'll never get there if we insist on going backwards to small, unsheltered grounds, tucked away in residential backstreets with poor public transport and dodgy toilets.

Leigh


What I mean by regularly is at least the match of the round pulling 40,000-60,000. I don't think that as being unrealistic.

Matches between Saints, Bunnies, Tigers, Eels and Dogs plus other Sydney derbies should be aiming to achieve this.
 
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