Future NRL Stadiums

[Springbokfly]

ANZ is a Terrible stadium

 

[Lockyer4President!]

ANZ Should return to its 110,000 configuration with moveable north and south lower stands

We have 5 competing groups for a 40,000 stadium

Parramatta
- pros - used by Wanderers and Eels. Good transport hub
- cons - proximity to ANZ and both can use ANZ for larger crowds

Black town
- pros - central to western Sydney and future city population growth. Good transport
- cons - its a oval at the moment and only used by AFL at the moment

Penrith
- pros - home ground of panthers
- cons - too far west. Crowds don't warrant 40,000 and I would expect Panthers to fund the growth

Campbelltown
- pros - Wests home ground good transport and freeway access
- cons - would need Tigers to fully relocate. Wanderers might not want to relocate

I would favour Black town or Campbelltown

A footy stadium at Blacktown wouldn't replace the AFl ground it'd be next door to it.

If we're basing most of the games from the Dogs, Parra, Wests, Wanderers and possibly Souths and Penrith then Campbelltown would be too far out aswell, surely?

IMO the choices are
-Parra - A modern CBD stadium ala Lang Park with shit to do after the game and still quite central for most Sydneysiders.
-Blacktown - Planning ahead like they did with the Olympic Park precinct. Means it'll be soulless after the game but has great transport links.

 

[herbert henry1908]

ANZ Should return to its 110,000 configuration with moveable north and south lower stands

We have 5 competing groups for a 40,000 stadium

Parramatta
- pros - used by Wanderers and Eels. Good transport hub
- cons - proximity to ANZ and both can use ANZ for larger crowds

Black town
- pros - central to western Sydney and future city population growth. Good transport
- cons - its a oval at the moment and only used by AFL at the moment

Penrith
- pros - home ground of panthers
- cons - too far west. Crowds don't warrant 40,000 and I would expect Panthers to fund the growth

Campbelltown
- pros - Wests home ground good transport and freeway access
- cons - would need Tigers to fully relocate. Wanderers might not want to relocate

I would favour Black town or Campbelltown

Why on earth would you return ANZ to 110,000?

Atmosphere was terrible unless you filled it. I think we'd struggle to fill anything other than maybe an all Sydney GF or a game 3 SOO decider.

As average as the ground is , it was greatly improved by closing in the ends.

 

[Big Sam]

I don't understand Perth Red.

He says on another thread that clubs should be doing all they can to enlarge their membership base, yet for clubs like Souths, Canterbury, and Parramatta who are aiming for +40k crowds by the end of the decade ANZ is apparently 'too big'. Go figure.

 

[Perth Red]

lol, 40k+ in 7 years? If those clubs are avg'ing more than 22-25k by 2020 they will have done a great job. Of course clubs should be aiming to increase memberships but I very much doubt any Sydney club is going to avg 30k+ by 2020 let alone 40k+.

If a miracle happened and Sydney people got off their couches in any great number then having a sell out stadium every game would in fact drive ticketed memberships up. A 35k modern rectangular stadium will be ample for Western Sydney clubs, if we get to the point where blockbusters are going to draw 40K plus then ANZ comes into its own.

 

[Diesel]

Putting a roof over ANZ should mean more Sydneysiders get to Sydney v Sydney games. If a roof is built and games played at ANZ are only averaging 30K or do for top 8 teams then the management need o look at rationalising Sydney. I however have faith in most Sydney sides to show up at ANZ with a decent crowd.

It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case and if you have t averaged xxxxx by 2017 then relocation/merger will be back on the cards

 

[Prometheus]

There is absolutely no reason why Parramatta Stadium should be upgraded, it is only 7 km from Stadium Australia. The only reason it is even being considered for upgrade is because Parramatta Stadium is Government owned.

 

[Perth Red]

Seats are going in at nib

 

[carlosthedwarf]

Putting a roof over ANZ should mean more Sydneysiders get to Sydney v Sydney games.

A roof won't fix the main issue, it's in the middle of nowhere with terrible transport.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

A roof won't fix the main issue, it's in the middle of nowhere with terrible transport.

SA does not have terrible transport. Ballymore does.

 

[big hit!]

i wouldnt get excited about the plan for the Olympic Stadium.

the venue will always be a dog for rectangular sports because the eastern and western grandstands are still set back in their track & field position, and the roof is just an expensive exercise to drum up hype.

 

[big hit!]

There is absolutely no reason why Parramatta Stadium should be upgraded, it is only 7 km from Stadium Australia. The only reason it is even being considered for upgrade is because Parramatta Stadium is Government owned.

and it gets used all-year.

it will add more value to the community than campbelltown or kogarah that get used 6 times a year tops.

 

[Clarke]

Re: ANZ stadium upgrade

Lol @ those saying it's impossible to change a oval venue Into a rectangluar one only a few days ago.

Also

- I would hate to see the capacity at the venue drop, I've heard there is a number of proposals that include a decrease, a rise and keeping the capacity the same
- while I agree with those saying that football venues should remain outdoor venues I certainly see the vast positives of having a retractable roof (which may be clear) for the sport & fans.
- moving those North & South Stands to within 5 metres of the playing field absouktely will increase the viewing and experience of fans sitting in those areas despite what some are saying.
- good to see that during the redevelopment (if it goes ahead) the NRL GF will not need to find itself a new home.

ANZ is a big event stadium, it is fine for that, it is designed for that. Putting a roof on it and moving a small % of the seats a few metres forwards will not make it a high quality viewing experience nor a great atmosphere stadium for club games.

Spend the $250mill building a 35-40k Western Sydney rectangular stadium and what was going to be spent doing up parra (if that was the plan) spend on the outlying clubs that have little choice of playing at a centralised stadium, like Manly, Illawarra and Cronulla.

Why not do both?

That's what seems to be happening.

SCG upgrade
ANZ upgrade
New WS venue (hopefully 30-40k)

All we need after that is more of a roof in the SFS.

A roof won't fix the main issue, it's in the middle of nowhere with terrible transport.

The Transport is fine & drops you off on the door step

 

[bobmar28]

I f*cken hate stadiums with roofs. Footy is to be played outside in the rain if it's raining and in the sun if it's sunny.

Guess it's fair enough in a place like Dunedin which is a miserable place, but here in Sydney it's not needed.

Should be able to see the sky.

 

[bobmar28]

There is absolutely no reason why Parramatta Stadium should be upgraded, it is only 7 km from Stadium Australia. The only reason it is even being considered for upgrade is because Parramatta Stadium is Government owned.

Even if they build a decent car park you still have the problem of traffic chaos in the narrow Streets around Parramatta. Build it somewhere where there is plenty of room.

 

[juro]

A roof won't fix the main issue, it's in the middle of nowhere with terrible transport.

Transport is not the problem. It has a train station. It is near the motorway. It has a heap of parking.

The problem is the east and west stands (where the vast majority of people usually sit for rugby league) are so far away from the action. If they fixed this problem, it would be fantastic.

 

[GAZF]

ANZ Should return to its 110,000 configuration with moveable north and south lower stands
Black town
- pros - central to western Sydney and future city population growth. Good transport
- cons - its a oval at the moment and only used by AFL at the moment

The more I see Blacktown's olympic park, the more I like it. Near the junction of the M4 and M7, right on a rail line and plenty of space. Put a station in between Doonside and Rooty Hill, a bus hub servicing Campbelltown and the southwest would negate the lack of a rail line.

 

[siv]

ANZ needs to return and have a rail link to Strathfield

Rail access from the North is poor

 

[big hit!]

Even if they build a decent car park you still have the problem of traffic chaos in the narrow Streets around Parramatta. Build it somewhere where there is plenty of room.

i dont understand most folks need to drive right up to their destination's door step. it's like all those nuffies driving to a shopping centre carpark and doing laps to park right near the entrance to the centre rather than parking 50m away where there are plenty of spots and walking for 30 seconds.

Parramatta is a CBD. Idiots drive into there. If folks who drive don't live near a train station, how about driving to their nearest train station instead and then using public transport from there? It certainly reduces the stress and road rage of dealing with traffic close to the venue.

Most of the lards with their sugar-laden diets who use the car to do everything and go anywhere further than a 500m from their homes are just too lazy or too dumb to consider alternatives.

 

[big hit!]

Transport is not the problem. It has a train station. It is near the motorway. It has a heap of parking.

The problem is the east and west stands (where the vast majority of people usually sit for rugby league) are so far away from the action. If they fixed this problem, it would be fantastic.

yeah, that's what i said too on the previous page.

cant be fixed unless they knocked it down and brought them closer.