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Gambhir the merkin's merkin

Tommy Smith

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I know this is a Rugby League forum Tommy, but in cricket that physical contact is a no no.

I agree it was soft, but totally illegal, and his innings in the 4th test could possibly effect the series outcome, such is his form atm.

And the last test finished in plenty of time to have his appeal heard, but no one really expected India to act in time.

We are just so used to India getting their own way we have become blaze about it.
I agree. I can't stand the Indian Board.

Their borderline contempt for test cricket and preference for the money from hit-and-giggle cricket makes me sick. They should have been severely punished for cancelling their tour to NZ a few years back.

And their arrogance, highlighted by their threat of cancelling their tour here last year, pisses me off and i just wish the ICC had the balls to stand up to them. But unfortunately India is where the money is atm so i cant see that happening.

Much about Indian cricket and the way its run does suck atm. But jumping on that horse is not as fun as riling up the Aussie masses who take the banter far, far too seriosuly (personal insults, anyone?)
 

Tommy Smith

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One of my very best fends is a pom, although you're an Aussie pom, he is a for real pom.

We certainly have a lot of arguments over sport, and he's a Leeds fan to boot, about the only team we have in common.
You see, now that's more like it. No personal abuse at all, and yet by far the best line ive copped in this thread. :D

Take note, Superman & friends.
 

Twizzle

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different strokes

I don't see the need for personal insults, its normally a sure sign your losing an argument

each to their own
 

TheParraboy

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different strokes

I don't see the need for personal insults, its normally a sure sign your losing an argument

each to their own

Ive never seen Locky abuse anyone with personal insults, but many have abused her, does that mean she is right in every argument?? :crazy:
 
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Tommy Smith

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Ive never seen Locky abuse anyone with personal insults, but many have abused her, does that mean she is right in every argument?? :crazy:
Lockyno1 is a man.

Predicted response, "I Know".

In which case, why refer to him as "she"?

C'mon Parraboy, let's be grown-ups.
 
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tommy has a whinge when an australian gets lippy but when physical contact is made in a non contact sport against an australian it's okay

f**king free loader ...
 

JJ

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Wow, we may actually agree on something for once JJ.

I'm not claiming Gambhir's actions as some huge thing but it was certainly very, very silly and a one-match ban is fair enough.

Perhaps you're just being sensible for once Hevy? :D

But, he does have the right to appeal - and is allowed to play until that appeal is heard imo
 

JJ

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Gambhir's appeal against ban rejected
Cricinfo staff
November 4, 2008
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Gautam Gambhir had scored a double-century in Delhi © AFP

The Indian cricket board appears to be heading for a confrontation with ICC over the one-Test ban on Gautam Gambhir. While the BCCI has rejected the decision of the appeals commissioner, Justice Albie Sachs, to uphold the ban, and issued a strongly worded protest, the ICC has said the "matter is closed".
"The ICC Code of Conduct is a robust and independent process designed to achieve a fair and proper outcome," Haroon Lorgat, the ICC's chief executive, said. "Although we have received an objection letter from the BCCI, there is nothing more that we can do as the Appeal Commissioner's decision is a final and binding decision."
The Indian board, in a statement, said the order "seems to have been pre-decided" as it had been passed without affording the player an opportunity of personal hearing and legal representation, without acceding to his request for certain documents/recordings to be given to him and also denying him an extension of time.
The selectors have, however, called up Tamil Nadu's M Vijay as a replacement for Gambhir for the fourth Test against Australia, which begins on Thursday. Gambhir has been the leading run-getter in the series so far, with 463 runs in three Tests including a century and a double-century.
In its letter to the ICC, written by board secretary N Srinivasan, the BCCI said the order was void as being in violation of the mandatory provisions of the rules and/or the principles of natural justice. However, the ICC Code of Conduct - for players and officials for matches other than the World Cup, Champions Trophy and Under-19 World Cup - says the "decision of the appeals commissioner shall be final and binding". It gives the commissioner absolute authority in such situations, including the right to decide whether oral representations should be permitted.
"Oral representations (either in person or by telephone conference as determined in the discretion of the appeals commissioner) should be permitted unless there are good reasons for relying on written submissions only", the rules state. "Where it is available, he shall view video tape of the incident which is the subject matter of the appeal."
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Why Gambhir lost the appeal
  • <LI class=liSideBar>Video evidence clearly shows Gambhir deliberately elbowed Shane Watson <LI class=liSideBar>He pleaded guilty to the charge and appealed only against penalty <LI class=liSideBar>He is guilty of a previous offence within the last 12 months <LI class=liSideBar>Doubtful whether his last-minute request for oral hearing and legal representation would have led to a different verdict
  • Cricketing world is entitled to expect the highest standards from all cricketers
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Earlier, the ICC rules - which were changed in 2007 - provided for a dispute resolution committee to handle such protests, a provision that BCCI utilised in 2005 when a six-ODI ban on Sourav Ganguly, the then India captain, for slow over-rates during an ODI series against Pakistan was reduced to a four-match penalty. Ironically, in that case, it was Justice Sachs who overturned the adjudicator's decision to uphold the ban by Chris Broad, the then match referee.
Gambhir was banned for one Test by Broad after he pleaded guilty to a charge of not conducting play "within the spirit of the game as well as within the laws of cricket" during the third Test against Australia in Delhi, a Level 2 offence under the ICC Code of Conduct. The incident that led to the ban occurred in the 51st over of India's first innings on the first day, when Gambhir, who had verbal altercations with Shane Watson, appeared to elbow the bowler during a run. He was told of his ban before the third day's play after which he filed an appeal.
When making his decision, Broad took into account Gambhir's previous fine for running into Pakistan's Shahid Afridi during an ODI in Kanpur last year. He had been fined 65% of the match fee after he was found guilty of a Level 2 charge of inappropriate and deliberate physical contact between players as well as a Level 1 charge of not conducting himself within the spirit of the game.
Justice Sachs, Cricket South Africa's representative on the ICC Code of Conduct Commission, is a senior judge on the Constitutional Court of South Africa.
Click here to read the full judgment.

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/indvaus2008/content/current/story/376923.html

Done and dusted?
 

Frank_Grimes

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Sanity prevails. Time to move on to cricket now. Although the BCCI seem intent on doing anything but that.
 

Twizzle

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why do I still think this isn't over yet

didn't know Gambir was a repeat offender,

anyone know about the other incident ?
 

skeepe

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Far from over it seems. Apparently there is a strong chance they will do what they did when Sehwag was banned in 2001 and just play him anyway and ignore the ban. Arrogant f**ks.
 

Timmah

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Personally I think one of the C's in BCCI says it all. "Control". A sign of insecure small men trying to sound important.

Why are we playing India so often right now? Please tell me we don't face them for a few summers...
 

Timmah

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Far from over it seems. Apparently there is a strong chance they will do what they did when Sehwag was banned in 2001 and just play him anyway and ignore the ban. Arrogant f**ks.

Surely the ICC can rule either the test automatically forfeited and a default win to Australia, or simply refuse to count his runs and any bowling or fielding efforts he makes?
 

simmo1

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Surely the ICC can rule either the test automatically forfeited and a default win to Australia, or simply refuse to count his runs and any bowling or fielding efforts he makes?

LOL, maybe if they weren't in India's pocket already.....
 

The Gambler

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Surely the ICC can rule either the test automatically forfeited and a default win to Australia, or simply refuse to count his runs and any bowling or fielding efforts he makes?
That's what I was thinking...

Surely if the game is deemed unofficial, it has to be a forfeit on India's behalf, meaning Australia maintain the trophy.

merkins.
 

JJ

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:lol: he's been banned - the rest is pretty dumb speculation.

Gambhir should have given Watson a decent shot really
 
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