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Game of Thrones II

Timbo

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Hey, why the f**k did Wun Wun not have a weapon?

If he'd had a giant broadsword, axe or even just a f**king tree he would have annihilated the Boltons when they were surrounding them in the phalanx formation.
 

elyod138

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But it is just a bit of fun

I mean Jon Snow was literally brought back from the dead by an old woman with the tits of a teenager

The books focus on the logistics a bit more, obviously the longer form lends itself to that. I'm glad the show doesn't bog itself down as much as the books, I just think if they could have handled a few things better if they tried.
 

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Hey, why the f**k did Wun Wun not have a weapon?

If he'd had a giant broadsword, axe or even just a f**king tree he would have annihilated the Boltons when they were surrounding them in the phalanx formation.

yeah would have loved to see him go bananas ala Sauron style from LOTR.
 

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Boggles my mind people would rather complain about how predictable the episode was rather than admire and compliment the beauty of it.It really was amazing. The dragons at the start, right through to the end when Ramsay got his. It really was brilliant. Next week will be another ripper then we all have to wait another yer before the season finale. That is going to be torture.
 

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The books focus on the logistics a bit more, obviously the longer form lends itself to that. I'm glad the show doesn't bog itself down as much as the books, I just think if they could have handled a few things better if they tried.

Fair enough

I will need to re read the books again soon before the next on comes out
 

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Had they mentioned the Manderlays as being aligned with the Boltons? I can't recall, and in the books their role is substantially different.

I'm sure Davos said they were with Ramsay when they were discussing the logistics of getting enough numbers for the battle. Something along the lines of that all the smallest houses in the North had the combined manpower of those plus the Boltons? Obviously their book role is very different.

I think the morale of the story with the Karstarks and the Universe is to never trust a ginger lord.
 

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Boggles my mind people would rather complain about how predictable the episode was rather than admire and compliment the beauty of it.It really was amazing. The dragons at the start, right through to the end when Ramsay got his. It really was brilliant. Next week will be another ripper then we all have to wait another yer before the season finale. That is going to be torture.

it was a great episode.

Yes its going to be torture especially if next season is going to be shorter.
I am thinking maybe Tommen dies next episode.. Just have a feeling Westeros, Kingslanding and the Lannisters in particular will be in dismay by seasons end.
 

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The Knights of the Vale cutting through the Bolton army like a ghost army through Orcs was a little disappointing too. If getting them onside meant instant victory I don't know why Jon was dragging his ass around to all the other houses and not going to see them.

1. the Vale has stayed out of the war of five kings and there was no reason to think theyd get involved because of Stark honour.

2. They went to great lengths to show Ramsey loosening arrow after arrow into a sea of troops, killing indiscriminately, so it's conceivable to me that he knew he had the men, could sacrifice them and win the battle easily... which is exactly what happened until the Vale showed up... and again, what expectation could he have that the KNights of the Vale would ride for the North? They arent banner man for the North, and didnt ride for Rob, why would Ramsey or Jon expect them to ride for Sansa/Jon

The real question is why didnt Sansa tell Jon and Davos she could get them the knights of the Vale and them set the battle up? And the answer is probably story telling. It's boring if they just side with the Starks, even up and win an even battle.
 

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Thinking back, did Sansa even tell Jon about the Vale and Littlefinger's offer of support? Did Jon not think to ask them for help? Do the Boltons and the other houses that fought for them have no scouts? How did the Knights of the Vale make it to Winterfell unseen and so quickly? It works as a deus ex machina in Lord of the Rings because it's a ghost army. That kind of thing doesn't work when it's thousands of real living people who have to travel halfway across the continent through enemy held territory.

The way all that was handled seemed like lazy writing, unless I'm overlooking something.

1. the Vale has stayed out of the war of five kings and there was no reason to think theyd get involved because of Stark honour.

2. They went to great lengths to show Ramsey loosening arrow after arrow into a sea of troops, killing indiscriminately, so it's conceivable to me that he knew he had the men, could sacrifice them and win the battle easily... which is exactly what happened until the Vale showed up... and again, what expectation could he have that the KNights of the Vale would ride for the North? They arent banner man for the North, and didnt ride for Rob, why would Ramsey or Jon expect them to ride for Sansa/Jon

The real question is why didnt Sansa tell Jon and Davos she could get them the knights of the Vale and them set the battle up? And the answer is probably story telling. It's boring if they just side with the Starks, even up and win an even battle.

This.

Davos ordered his men to drop their arrows because they were useless and would have killed both starks and boltons..the starks didn't have the men to sacrifice. Ramsey did. Ramsey was lazy and sacrificed his own men for the sake of killing starks. he was cocky.

the element of surprise won the war. sansa won the war because she did it her way. If ramsey knew that jon had the vale behind him, he would have stayed in the winterfell castle and withheld the siege.

sansa played ramsey and won. she also kinda played jon.
 

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