Game of Thrones VIII

[Apey]

Prior to the episode I didn't expect the Night King to die but it got to the point you knew it had to happen otherwise literally everyone was dead. In that sense it was predictable. Arya killing him, while cool, doesn't really fit the story imo and is a good indication of the showrunners not quite understanding the arcs and underlying themes of the characters.

I don't have any issue with Cersei/Daenarys/being the final bad guys. It is Game of Thrones after all.

I thought we'd lose more people and I certainly hope we do and in unexpected ways. Varys has got to go, but no way can he be the only one. We've heard from GRRM the ending is bittersweet.

Looking forward, what happens with Jaime now? The dead are dealt with. Whose side will he be on now?

 

[mongoose]

I thought it was all shot and choreographed really well. The darkness was perfect because it made it all so chaotic and created that extra tension and concern for the audience. The whole Ep was a rollercoaster ride. So many times I thought they were all done for.

The biggest criticism is that the army of the dead are gone in 1 episode, 1 huge battle and its over but they have been building it up for a few seasons now. They went to such lengths to prepare for it and convince major characters of its importance and then in 1 episode its done. Not sure if that's really smart writing... anyway amazing episode nonetheless.

 

[hineyrulz]

They built up the NK as the big bad but this just proves that Cersei is even worse and a bigger danger to the realm.


She’d be happy to be the Queen of the Ashes.

 

[bad boy bubby]

After a night of reflection I can honestly say I don't have the urge to watch it again like I did with the first two episodes of this season.
I prefer the Battle of the Bastards in regards to a war episode.
I think they should have had a NK vs Jon fight (one on one, not on the dragons), even for Jon to lose and Arya to still kill the NK.
At the very least they could have had Jon kill the zombie dragon instead of just standing there yelling at it.

I daresay that it will not be Arya killing Cersei now at all.
However her killing the NK was a good move. The man of many faces worship the god of death, the NK = death.

 

[mongoose]

I daresay that it will not be Arya killing Cersei now at all.
However her killing the NK was a good move. The man of many faces worship the god of death, the NK = death.

yeah i'm betting either Jamie or Tyrion will do Cersei, probably with the crossbow but i've been wrong so many times

 

[Parra]

No wonder no one but the north believes in all-powerful others and unstoppable armies of the undead.

Easier to kill than uruk-hai. And that is saying something.

People just walk through the lines at will, back and forward as needed. The one dragon they had couldn't toast a slice of bread.

"Grumkins and snarks " was right.

 

[Twizzle]

That was f**king awesome.

Can confirm the download on Foxtel is way better than the stream I recorded while at work. Thought my 4K tv was f**king up it was that hard to watch.

Now can we just send aria to slit Cersei’s throat and be done with it! Haha

Cersei has green eyes

Walder Frey had the brown eyes

 

[Mr Angry]

I want to see Sansa kill Cercei, up close and personal looking her in the eye.

Arya did Little finger, Ramsey by his own dogs, time for real blood on her hands.

She hates Cersei more than her brothers, more than Jon or Dany.

I say Sansa up close with decapitation while Tyrion, Jamie and others watch.

I call Cluedo.

 

[Mr Angry]

Or maybe Cersei to win back Jamie and the throne.

My kids would be filthy, I discovered when proposing such a "not happening" result.

 

[bad boy bubby]

yeah i'm betting either Jamie or Tyrion will do Cersei, probably with the crossbow but i've been wrong so many times

I was wrong in everything that I thought would happen in that episode haha.

I'll take a punt and say they take the easy way out
Cersei to be sitting on the throne and this time to swallow the poison, fed to her Ollena style by Jaime. Then Jaime to take it as well.

 

[Mr Angry]

Cersei has green eyes

Walder Frey had the brown eyes

Littlefinger was the Green, hence the blue was left.

 

[Timbo]

People seem to be really upset online that the Night King wasn't the final boss.

I think a lot of people seem to have forgotten the point of this show - the White Walkers have never been the true enemies, it's the scheming of other humans that cause the most misery.

Also, Jon is on course to follow Ned and Robb if he's not careful. Both of them focused on what was the right thing to do and what they saw as the real threat meanwhile the Lannisters' Lannistered.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Arya killing him, while cool, doesn't really fit the story imo and is a good indication of the showrunners not quite understanding the arcs and underlying themes of the characters.

She’s been training as an assassin for years, building Jon up as the NK killer but having Arya do it is very GoT.

They wanted us to think Jon will do it, and threw in some BS prophecies

People seem to be really upset online that the Night King wasn't the final boss.

I think a lot of people seem to have forgotten the point of this show - the White Walkers have never been the true enemies, it's the scheming of other humans that cause the most misery.

Also, Jon is on course to follow Ned and Robb if he's not careful. Both of them focused on what was the right thing to do and what they saw as the real threat meanwhile the Lannisters' Lannistered.

Yeah, Cersei is the real villain of the show, she’s now the most powerful person in Westeros thanks to the NK

NK was just a decoy

 

[Valheru]

It was an epic 80 minutes of television no doubt but I can see where some are coming from with the criticism. For me a lot of it was very 'un game of thrones like' in that the roles of the good and bad guys were well defined and there must have been more than 10 occasions where one of the good guys faced certain death only to be saved at the 11th hour.

I think the episode really needed at least one of Jon, Dany, Arya, Sansa, Sam, Jamie, Brienne, Tyrion and Bran to die.

I have no problem with the NK being killed by Arya but am left a bit disappointed that there was no payoff in terms of his identity and no real payoff of the relationship between himself and Bran.

All in all a great episode though and looking forward to the battle for the iron throne now.

 

[Timbo]

But we know the NK’s identity. He was created by the Children of the Forest as a weapon to fight the First Men.

He’s never been anything more than a killing machine with the sole purpose of wiping out all human kind.

His motivation was to kill all humans, for the sake of killing all humans.

 

[hineyrulz]

Not sure what people are so shocked that the NK wasn’t the big bad, the show is called Game of thrones. It’s all been about the Throne, and once Cersei went all made King and blew up the sept and stole the throne she has always been he main enemy. Without the White Walkers Dany could of crushed her far too easily

 

[BennyV]

Not sure what people are so shocked that the NK wasn’t the big bad, the show is called Game of thrones. It’s all been about the Throne, and once Cersei went all made King and blew up the sept and stole the throne she has always been he main enemy. Without the White Walkers Dany could of crushed her far too easily

While true, the original series of books was called a Song of Ice and Fire. Between that, and the fact that the entire show started with the threat of White Walkers, it’s completely reasonable to expect it to end that way. Plus it would have set up so many potential twists to close it off.

That being said, after Season 7 it was always going to go this way.

 

[butchmcdick]

Prior to the episode I didn't expect the Night King to die but it got to the point you knew it had to happen otherwise literally everyone was dead. In that sense it was predictable. Arya killing him, while cool, doesn't really fit the story imo and is a good indication of the showrunners not quite understanding the arcs and underlying themes of the characters.

I don't have any issue with Cersei/Daenarys/being the final bad guys. It is Game of Thrones after all.

I thought we'd lose more people and I certainly hope we do and in unexpected ways. Varys has got to go, but no way can he be the only one. We've heard from GRRM the ending is bittersweet.

Looking forward, what happens with Jaime now? The dead are dealt with. Whose side will he be on now?

What exactly do you think she has been training for the last 4 seasons ?

I think her killing the NK fits the narrative perfectly

It's what she has been destined to do from way back in the first season eg what do we tell death ?

The NK is death

It was right in front of our eyes the whole time

 

[Timbo]

George R R Martin has also said a bajillion times that this has never been about ‘goodies vs baddies’. This is a guy who was a conscientious objector to Vietnam and hates the glorification of war. It’s one of the reasons he killed Robb because he wanted to subvert the expectations of readers that this would be the story of a heroic son avenging his fathers murder.

The show ending with some heroic battle between Jon and NK with Jon saving the day would be wildly out of character for GoT. I really appreciated how useless Jon was in that battle because that’s the show in a nutshell - he may be our main hero, but the fact is sometimes hero’s don’t succeed. And that’s doubly true in this universe.

 

[Parra]

What exactly do you think she has been training for the last 4 seasons ?

I think her killing the NK fits the narrative perfectly

It's what she has been destined to do from way back in the first season eg what do we tell death ?

The NK is death

It was right in front of our eyes the whole time

She hasn't defeated death. That was just rhetoric from the script. She defeated a supernatural force.

People will still die.