Game of Thrones

[saint.nick]

I'm talking about what happened AFTER the dragon and Dany pissed off. Tyrion, Jorah, Daario, Missendei? All still trapped in an arena surrounded by hundreds of sons of the harpy trying to kill them. We never see or have it explained how they all managed to escape unharmed. The next shot of their story is just them sitting in the thrown room trying to figure out where Dany flew off to.

Does it really matter that much? Maybe they all ran off because the only one they thought worth killing flew off with a dragon...

 

[saint.nick]

Yeah, Jon can't be dead. But I felt that exact same way after Ned Stark head was chopped off thinking to myself maybe it's just a dream. Back in 2011 GRRM said this



So Arya's a warg? or did I interpret that wrong?
and how in holy f**k would Sansa survive that jump?


I remember reading somewhere that GRRM will release the next book before next season starts, so maybe that's why some episodes felt slow early on. So if the producers know this, it would make sense to not go too far past the books even if they know how it will all end

Not me, the character is destined to die when Sean Bean is acting the role.

 

[Twizzle]

Yeah, Jon can't be dead. But I felt that exact same way after Ned Stark head was chopped off thinking to myself maybe it's just a dream. Back in 2011 GRRM said this



So Arya's a warg? or did I interpret that wrong?
and how in holy f**k would Sansa survive that jump?


I remember reading somewhere that GRRM will release the next book before next season starts, so maybe that's why some episodes felt slow early on. So if the producers know this, it would make sense to not go too far past the books even if they know how it will all end

there is an interview with Kit (Jon Snow) on the interwebs, it answers your question

 

[DiegoNT]

The question isn't 'is Jon Snow dead?'
The question is can John snow be resurrected?
Their is 3 possible ways that's could happen.
1. Has he warged into Ghost. The precedent is set in the books by having a willing warg into an animal as his human body dies.
2. Melissandre breathes new life into him. Again the precedent has been set with a red priest breathing life back into a dead person, with Beric Dundarrion and in the books with lady stoneheart
3. Jon is reborn as Azor Ahai, the prince that was promised, this one has a lot of hints in the books, ties into the whole R+L=J thing.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Azor Ahai has barely been mentioned in the tv show (from memory) and his wargness hasn't been established, so my guess is no. 2 after Melissandre realises fire can't hurt a dragon/Jon on his funeral pyre and resurrects him.

 

[Game_Breaker]

there is an interview with Kit (Jon Snow) on the interwebs, it answers your question

Didn't he say he can now shave his beard off? He mentioned nothing about cutting his hair though

 

[Shorty]

Azor Ahai has barely been mentioned in the tv show (from memory) and his wargness hasn't been established, so my guess is no. 2 after Melissandre realises fire can't hurt a dragon/Jon on his funeral pyre and resurrects him.

I think Jon is AA after Mel ditched Stannis like that.

 

[DiegoNT]

I think Jon is AA after Mel ditched Stannis like that.

Obviously stannis was never AA, she read the fires wrong, I think all along stannis was a stepping stone to getting her closer to jon and she didn't realize that until she got to the wall

 

[saint.nick]

The question isn't 'is Jon Snow dead?'
The question is can John snow be resurrected?
Their is 3 possible ways that's could happen.
1. Has he warged into Ghost. The precedent is set in the books by having a willing warg into an animal as his human body dies.
2. Melissandre breathes new life into him. Again the precedent has been set with a red priest breathing life back into a dead person, with Beric Dundarrion and in the books with lady stoneheart
3. Jon is reborn as Azor Ahai, the prince that was promised, this one has a lot of hints in the books, ties into the whole R+L=J thing.

If he's reborn as Azor Hai wouldn't it be through either of the first two ways anyway?

 

[Game_Breaker]

Was Cersei walk of shame done with a body double?

 

[Joker's Wild]

Apparently yes

 

[God-King Dean]

Yep.

She was preggers at the time.

 

[Canard]

Surely Stannis is not dead? After all the brutality shown on screen?

 

[age.s]

There's another option for John. Fire magic isn't the only way to resurrect a person...

The pacing of this season is so weird (simultaneously too fast and too slow) because they're cramming two books into one season. The story starts branching out in book 3, they used 2 seasons to cover it. Compared to previous seasons they're cramming double the content in half the screen time. To do so they're basically throwing out the books as source material and using them as guidelines. Nothing wrong with that in theory, but it means this is the first season that's legitimately from Bienhoff & Weiss and not from Martin.

And they're pretty average writers. Bienhoff wrote Troy ffs. It's still better than most of the garbage out there, but it was shaping up to be in the pantheon of television. It won't get there if future seasons don't get better than this one.

 

[Shorty]

There's another option for John. Fire magic isn't the only way to resurrect a person...

What do you mean? Like a white walker Jon?
It just seems a bit too convenient that Mel gets back to the wall just before he gets the Caeser treatment.

 

[t-ba]

The only thing more interesting than the torrent of 'News' articles about Kit Harrington's hair is Rachel Dolezal. For people who are 'finished' with the show and 'not interested' in it anymore there sure are a lot of people fascinated by the state of his mane.

 

[Avenger]

Was Cersei walk of shame done with a body double?

Yes.

 

[t-ba]

Look into the future...

 

[age.s]

What do you mean? Like a white walker Jon?
It just seems a bit too convenient that Mel gets back to the wall just before he gets the Caeser treatment.

Yeah it looks likely in the show at least. Might be an option for the books though.

 

[saint.nick]

Yeah it looks likely in the show at least. Might be an option for the books though.

If it's looking likely in the show then it might be equally likely in the book IMO. I think that the writers have always known the ultimate fate of Jon Snow.