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WestyLife

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Look at the high number of guys leaving.

Hell TPJ left $1.5m behind to leave the place, There are issues going on.

Davey very likely isn't alone and put his name to it, Isn't that better than un named sources like always happens?

The issue is they don't want to work hard and it shows on field. This period is necessary to build the hardworking culture for the club we went through it ourselves.
 

Iamback

Referee
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The issue is they don't want to work hard and it shows on field. This period is necessary to build the hardworking culture for the club we went through it ourselves.

They sign guys that come from successful clubs though.

Davey is perfect example. Debuted at 26. You don't think it takes hard work to debut so late?

Parra and Des aren't bludger clubs.

Cotric - Origin player
Allan - Origin. Signed from Wayne Bennett as coach

Hetherington - of course came from us


Are we classing Adam Elliott as a discard?

There are 4 that have gone in the last 2 seasons and are now playing Finals footy. That to me says the club is doing something wrong

We signed old plodders so ours was different
 

Pomoz

Bench
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Davey had the balls to put his name to it, probably to help the smaller fish, but rather than arguing against his opinion or trying to get an understanding of his position, the Dogs are getting personal and trying to smear his name/reputation so his opinion becomes invalid. The Bulldogs have clearly gone on the offensive to control the narrative which most seem to be eating up. When was the last time multiple players from a club spoke up against their club or former club of employment? There's clearly a bigger issue than one player not enjoying wrestling or thinking training is too hard, despite what Gus wants to feed us.

Re; Tallis, he was 100% patronizing. He wasn't trying to make a genuine point like you have, he was trying to belittle the guy.
All good points martielang. I thought Graham did "play the man", as it were, but he also played the ball, addressing the fact you can't drop standards.

I agree that obviously there is an issue at the Dogs. You can't finish so low in the table and expect people are happy. But implying it is causing mental health issues, is a bridge too far.

My take on the Dogs is this. Ciraldo was with us a long time and there was never a whisper of man management issues. He was a coach of lower grades, no complaints.

The Dogs on the other hand have been nowhere for seven years. Board changes, coach changes and wooden spoons. I think Ciraldo has gone in and tried to set the same standards as the Panthers when the Dogs have been used to mediocrity.

The jump has been too big and the players couldn't cope. Change management 101, progress in stages and give people a chance to adjust. There is no way the 2011 Panthers could cope with the current training regime without some time to change their bodies and mental approach.

Half the teams in the competition are calling for oxygen after playing us for 20 minutes. I would imagine the Dogs are like, Panthers level fitness, "WTF"!
 

Fangs

Coach
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That doesn't put Burton to 7.....wowee

Ran out of options and gave it a shot. He is paid as the number one playmaker. You'll see the same stuff at every bottom 4 club.

Ciraldo couldn't stop them sliding once it started. If they had a choice they would have started 2024 pre-season a few months ago when the rot started.
 
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He has had a tough year. I wouldn’t be writing the guy off just get. Hope he bounces back, can coach and is a genuinely decent human being.
I'm not riding him off. If he has another unsuccessful year next year, their supporters will be baying for his blood.
 

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