General off season footy/sport/current affairs chatter

[Maroubra Eel]

Delboy doesn't need any of this stuff, so the Gillard Govt IS JUST CRAP.
As I said, this is the Snowy Mountains Scheme of the 21st Century.

Suity

No, the bats in the roof scheme was the 21st century snowy mountains scheme.

 

[Suitman]

No, the bats in the roof scheme was the 21st century snowy mountains scheme.

You have bats in your roof?
You better ring a bat catcher.

Suity

 

[Maroubra Eel]

You have bats in your roof?
You better ring a bat catcher.

Suity

No. I've got some bloody possums.

I've got bats in my orange tree but. Sneaky bastards!

 

[mickdo]

The NBN is touted for high speed access. Yet you quote prices from crippled access plans. We need high speed & unlimited downloads or the whole exercise is a was of time and money.

Crippled access plans? The fastest 300G plan from Internode is 100Mbps down / 40Mbps up, and is $5 cheaper a month than the 300G ADSL2+ plan (which can give at max 15Mbps/1Mbps, if you're very lucky). Stop lying your f**king ass off, it's embarrassing.

http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans/
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/adsl_broadband/easy_bundle/

We are going to pay over $100 billion for this. Why pay through the nose to use it?

So where did that bullshit number come from? Your arse?

The evidence is in the "business" plan. The only way the NBN can get traction is to remove competing technology.

No-one is saying that a fibre network is technically unsound or that the speed potential is there.

What is being criticised is the waste of public money, the involvement of the government in an industry that has just been privatised and the lies that are told to continue to push this through. The removal of competitive options is appalling. Forcing people to pay and then forcing them to use it as well. It is every bit as bad as Sydney toll road construction where existing roads are blocked to force people to use the new toll road.

The technology and network should stand on it's own. The fact that it doesn't is proof that the business case fails. So we now have an ideological network. Something that no-one asked for.

I really pity people like you can't see past their preconceived political agendas. Please stay away from the NBN and leave it for the people who deserve it.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

So the govt owns the nbn and all the telcos pay the govt to use it? Or do all the users pays the govt directly to use it?

 

[strider]

No. I've got some bloody possums.

I've got bats in my orange tree but. Sneaky bastards!

i was gonna say, I hope the bats scared the possums away

there are lots of bats around here each year - dirty merkins eat fruit then vomit all over everything

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Probably won't be for a year or two. I think Kiama and Wollongong are getting installs at the moment.

It seems there is a larger demographic base of users downloading porno from Wollongong to Kiama so they get first preference!:sarcasm:
Bowral is full of old timers, old money, churches and gardeners.
Demographically, porno is not an obsession out here yet!:lol:

 

[Casper The Ghost]

even optus are already offering a service where you use your home wifi connection for mobile as it is likely to provide a better service than the usual mobile networks


re: cables .... who says they won't find something better than what they are laying now in 10-15 yrs time? .... copper cables were all the rage a while back - then they found something better .... technology is always being outdone - you invest today, it'll only last so long - no one knows what's around the corner, wireless or cable

Most know what's around the corner, wireless or cable Porno!

 

[mickdo]

So the govt owns the nbn and all the telcos pay the govt to use it?

Essentially correct, yes

 

[Maroubra Eel]

i was gonna say, I hope the bats scared the possums away

there are lots of bats around here each year - dirty merkins eat fruit then vomit all over everything

Holy shit! Bat vomit! I think I've seen it. I was wondering what that stuff was.

 

[Parra]

I really pity people like you can't see past their preconceived political agendas. Please stay away from the NBN and leave it for the people who deserve it.

Say no more Mickdo. Your political agenda comes through loud and clear.

And like all aussies if I want to be online I cannot stay away from the NBN. We are being forced onto it. It is the only way the model works.

Come up with a high speed plan that bundles 100G+, all phone calls rental ect and platinum HD foxtel with IQ2 for under $200.00 and I'll be interested.

 

[Parra]

And make sure you ask for some government cheese to go with your government cable.

We can't even pay for our own roads anymore, but our government is pouring money into an industry that is well covered by private companies.

 

[Parra]

Crippled access plans? The fastest 300G plan from Internode is 100Mbps down / 40Mbps up, and is $5 cheaper a month than the 300G ADSL2+ plan (which can give at max 15Mbps/1Mbps, if you're very lucky). Stop lying your f**king ass off, it's embarrassing.

http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans/
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/adsl_broadband/easy_bundle/

And the 30G plan is 50% more expensive for the NBN high speed plan. It is easy to cherry pick to prove a point.

Doesn't mean you are a liar though, does it?

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Essentially correct, yes

Which is what we (read anyone in telecommunications that was not telstra) cried out for during the Howard government's sell of of Telstra (T1 and T2).

I have no problem selling the phone service company. But I would like to retain the network that my grand fathers, and my fathers taxes paid to put into the ground.

 

[Parra]

Which is what we (read anyone in telecommunications that was not telstra) cried out for during the Howard government's sell of of Telstra (T1 and T2).

I have no problem selling the phone service company. But I would like to retain the network that my grand fathers, and my fathers taxes paid to put into the ground.

I agree with this & a lot of noise was made about this sort of separation at the time. But trying to rewrite history via network duplication and then paying again to have existing infrastructure decommissioned is not the way to go either. It is very expensive just to get the ideology right.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I really pity people like you can't see past their preconceived political agendas. Please stay away from the NBN and leave it for the people who deserve it.

I mightn't agree with it but since I've been forced to pay for it I may as well use it.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

I agree with this & a lot of noise was made about this sort of separation at the time. But trying to rewrite history via network duplication and then paying again to have existing infrastructure decommissioned is not the way to go either. It is very expensive just to get the ideology right.

Part of the agreement is that Telstra's copper network (pots and HFC) as Optus's HFC network and both their fibre back-haul networks becomes part of the NBN, after that, this is a network upgrade not a duplication.

I also understand some companies that own FTTN networks in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and North Sydney - St Leonard's are also part of another similar agreement.

 

[mickdo]

And the 30G plan is 50% more expensive for the NBN high speed plan. It is easy to cherry pick to prove a point.

Doesn't mean you are a liar though, does it?

Hang on, the high speed plan is 10-40 times faster than the ADSL plan you're comparing it to. You're comparing a dihatsu with a ferrari and wondering why its more expensive? The NBN plan that it is the same speed is cheaper than the comparable ADSL. Talk about cherry picking... :lol:

 

[yy_cheng]

re: cricket

#-o

In the old days, the main batsman will try to stay on strike and not let the tail ender face too many balls.

Today, the tailenders faced alot of balls.

Is that a change in tactics/strategy in the current era?

 

[eels81236]

In the old days, the main batsman will try to stay on strike and not let the tail ender face too many balls.

Today, the tailenders faced alot of balls.

Is that a change in tactics/strategy in the current era?

Stephen Rodger Waugh. Enough said.