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God shall not be mocked

Who believes in God?

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    Votes: 59 64.1%
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I am certainly no Metal afficiando, but I like to think I can appreciate some good Yuks and Chuckles with the best of them.

Adult Swim cartoons have always been a fine purveyor of this type of hilarity IMO.

My favourites of these being Harvey Birdman, Sealab 2021, Frisky Dingo and of course, Metalocalypse.

Just wondering how the Metal Purists here rate the show and Dethklok?
 

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When you listen to Rat and therefore only here generic 4/4 beats I can understand why you say that, Ron. However:

1) You know nothing about drums. Firstly, it's the most physically demanding instrument to play, with daylight second;

2) You actually don't know anything about playing anything, do you, Ronny? What instrument do you play again?

4/4 time? sorry HJ not quite, i listen to alot of variety, and speed doesn't mean better, otherwise blokes like Chris impelettri ( spelling ) speed guitarist is the greatest ever.

Well, firstly i don't listen to Rat, i listen to a band called Ratt - who has a guitarist by the name of Warren Demartini in it, fantastic lead player without the wankery, well respected by other guitarists in the industry ( without getting the recongition he deserved ), has also played in bands with some of musics finiest, including David Coverdale, and pretty sure he also played with Robert Plant a few times, as well playing numerous times with Michael Schenker.

I like Motely Crue too, and everything you listen to is basically just copy and pasted tactics used by the likes of Alex, John, Tommy etc, they haven't invented anything for the instrument, it had already been done, much like Hammett and Dimebag - yes great guitarists, they were simply Eddie V rip offs or vai for that matter, still good, but not legendary in my book.

I play lead guitar HJ, been playing and writing for 17 years now, own a Jackson flying V, you're more then welcome to come check it out for yourself, however hasn't been played in a while due to uni and needing a new amp - my peevey and effects board got water logged thanks to my house getting flooded a while back. My favourite influences on the guitar before you ask were Eddie V, Vai, Malmstein, as well Slash - all influential, all the best in the game;-), hate Hendrix, his simplistic, out of tune playing left me dry heaving by the age of 16, never wanted to play his tripe again.

As for drummers, sorry HJ, i just get the sh*ts with drummers thinking they're king sh*t, yes like any instrument it's vital, but with a drum machine now their are more and more looking for work:p
 
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PJ Marshal

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malmstein is awesome, some of the riffs he has down are awesome

wat do u think of michael angelo batio ron?
 

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You see, Hevy, that's tough because a "top band" produces quality over their entire life.

Look at Metallica, who I have spoken a bit about. Great first 4 but then serious deterioration after that. They can't be considered one of the best bands even though they have produced some of the best music of all time.

Ditto Cemetary (who made my favourite album of all time).

I'd automatically nominate Katatonia but they made Viva la Difference (or whatever it was called). Absolutely f**king sh*t album.

So I'd actually need to go outside of heavy metal to the likes of FNM, who produced good sh*t early on but just got better. Album of the Year and King for a Day are my two favourite FNM albums and they haven't produced a single bad one.

With Entombed, LHP and Clandestine were great albums but it starts to fall after that.

So, honestly, I can't say.

Hmmm - problem is that I like all of those bands you mentioned (and yes Metallica was turd after the Black album).

However, your earlier opinions re: Opeth, AA and Dream Theater are turd.

Now excuse me while I listen to some Behemoth to wake me up.
 

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HJ/Ele/Kornstar

Have you seen that Heavy Metal Documentary/film from that Canadian dude who travels around the globe interviewing metal bands past and present? Forget the name of it. Very interesting.

Yeah it wasn't bad. The sections where he interviewed some of the legends of the genre were pretty interesting.
 

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I am certainly no Metal afficiando, but I like to think I can appreciate some good Yuks and Chuckles with the best of them.

Adult Swim cartoons have always been a fine purveyor of this type of hilarity IMO.

My favourites of these being Harvey Birdman, Sealab 2021, Frisky Dingo and of course, Metalocalypse.

Just wondering how the Metal Purists here rate the show and Dethklok?

I love Dethklok, mainly because they're such a piss-take. I was also surprised to learn all the music was performed by one guy.

But Frisky Dingo and Metalocalypse rule - Nathan Explosion and Xander Crewes ftw!
 

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Hmmm - problem is that I like all of those bands you mentioned (and yes Metallica was turd after the Black album).

However, your earlier opinions re: Opeth, AA and Dream Theater are turd.

Now excuse me while I listen to some Behemoth to wake me up.

:ls:

For a band that has performers with nicknames like Nergal and Inferno, they're actually very well-spoken young men. I was watching the "Making Of Evangelion" DVD and I was impressed.


OZZIE!!!! Nothing like a bit of Iron Man to get you pumped up

TBH, I always preferred Dio. They were probably 'bigger' with Ozzie as their lead, but I think Dio is a superior vocalist.

Lamb of God shall not be mocked

Indeed not!
 

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Actually, I can tell you from experience that they wouldn't. People that write real music generally tend to look down upon the wankers that would buy albums from bands with big deals. You see, big deals only come when the label knows braindead idiots will buy the music en masse. If we were even offered such a deal we'd be questioning what we're doing.

All you are doing is showing that you know nothing about real music, real musicians or true heavy metal.

For the record, you're wrong.

In your opinion i am wrong about the Metallica vs Megadeth debate, which is fair enough, that is your opinion. I aint changing mine and you aint changing yours!

I would like to know what your definition of "real" music is?

Are you saying you are a real musician because you aren't making any money out of it? If so, then i must be too!

Are saying that any bands who are successful are not real musicians because they are making money?

What is true heavy metal in your eyes? Everyone has their own opinions, just curious to know what yours is?

You are probably right though, i know nothing about alot of metal because alot of it that i have heard is garbage, too bland and boring with no direction or purpose....really can't get into alot of it, no matter how much i have tried.
 
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Avenger, hate to say, but i'd much rather RJD Sabbath then Ozzy, RJD is a vocal giant, Tommy on guitar was awesome though
 

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actually, i'll go as far to say now PJ that Yngwie is more talented then Eddie v, he took everything to a new level, his sympthony stuff is out of this world
 
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Do you agree that Black Sabbath are the real fathers of Metal ?

In the same way that Tolkein is the father of fantasy. His stuff has been surpassed now but there wouldn't be the fantasy fiction there is today if it wasn't for Tolkein's simplistic writings.

Maiden and Priest also deserve significant recognition.

4/4 time? sorry HJ not quite, i listen to alot of variety, and speed doesn't mean better, otherwise blokes like Chris impelettri ( spelling ) speed guitarist is the greatest ever.

Speed guitar is sh*t.

and everything you listen to is basically just copy and pasted tactics used by the likes of Alex, John, Tommy etc, they haven't invented anything for the instrument, it had already been done,
Yeah, I know, Burzum totally ripped off Motley Crue.

I play lead guitar HJ, been playing and writing for 17 years now, own a Jackson flying V, you're more then welcome to come check it out for yourself, however hasn't been played in a while due to uni and needing a new amp - my peevey and effects board got water logged thanks to my house getting flooded a while back.
What bands have you played in, Ron? The "I sit in my loungeroom by myself" band?

As for drummers, sorry HJ, i just get the sh*ts with drummers thinking they're king sh*t, yes like any instrument it's vital, but with a drum machine now their are more and more looking for work:p
And this comment perfectly illustrates your absolute lack of knowledge regarding music.

Thank you.

metallica's best album was master of puppets...nuff said despite lars being a dick

Ride the Lightning was Metallica's best album.

Hmmm - problem is that I like all of those bands you mentioned (and yes Metallica was turd after the Black album).

That's because your tastes suck.

However, your earlier opinions re: Opeth, AA and Dream Theater are turd.
Which means nothing because your opinion on music is irrelevant.

Lamb of God shall not be mocked

Lamb of God suck arse. Chuck them in with Dimmu Borgir in the "poser" category.

In your opinion i am wrong about the Metallica vs Megadeth debate, which is fair enough, that is your opinion. I aint changing mine and you aint changing yours!

As if I care. I'm right and you're wrong.

I would like to know what your definition of "real" music is?
Start by eliminating anything on the charts. Charts are indications of what the braindead, generic masses are listening to. Note you said that Metallica only got #1 when they changed their sound - meaning they started playing sh*t, soulless music. Note also that you said Megadeth made #2 without having to do this - meaning they were already making sh*t, soulless music.

NOTE: A lot of music pre-80s can be excluded from this because the whole shallow, meaningless commerciality of music did not really come about until Michael Jackson absolutely devestated the world with his awesomeness. It was after jacko that things changed, music started to become a real business and thus people started selling out.

But in terms of metal...go to a gig and look at the people. If they are scene metal twigs, the music is obviously sh*t as scene metal twigs can only handle generic crap.

Next, look at how people put themselves forward. Those worried about image can be scrapped as its obvious they're after popularity. At this stage go back and read my comments regarding braindead, generic scene metallers.

In the end you come down to bands that play simply because they like the music themselves. They don't give a f**k about getting anything from it except their own pleasure. They'll accept a sh*t label deal simply so they can have something in print to call their own and which they can give out for free to their friends.

Now this automatically excludes the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of musicians, bands etc. The vast, vast, vast majority imagine themselves being adored as musical gods. They'll say otherwise but this then becomes their prime subconscious focus and leads them to create the music that appeals to the braindead masses.

Very, very few will just create music for the sake of it. This is real music and these are the real musicians.

Are you saying you are a real musician because you aren't making any money out of it? If so, then i must be too!
I'd say you're just sh*t.

Are saying that any bands who are successful are not real musicians because they are making money?
They might be real musicians (read: actually know how to play an instrument) but they aren't making real music. There are, of course, some exceptions but these are few and far between. The fact that you are successful automatically means you are appealing to the braindead masses. If you don't make sh*t, soulless music that appeals to the braindead masses then you don't make money so you don't become successful.

What is true heavy metal in your eyes? Everyone has their own opinions, just curious to know what yours is?
Read above.

You are probably right though, i know nothing about alot of metal because alot of it that i have heard is garbage, too bland and boring with no direction or purpose....really can't get into alot of it, no matter how much i have tried.
Yeah I know. Korn springs to mind as a perfect example.

I'm gonna start my own nu-metal band. Because it's cool and hip, I'm gonna name it after some food.

I'm gonna call it TOMATO.

Because it's cool and hip, I'm gonna put the letters backwards. You know, it will appeal to the trendoids out there.

Backwards T, backwards O, backwards M, backwards A, backwards T and backwards O.

TOMATO.
 

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hj ride the lightening is a great album but james's voice still sounds sh*t, it wasnt until master of puppets he started to sound good
 

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