Gold Coast Bears/Nth Sydney/Gosford

[taipan]

Token?
RL: HM Ball team, SG Ball Team, Under 20's team, Intrust Super Premiership team, 8 jnr clubs (2 new ones 2012 & 2015)
The running of District Junior Development Teams in the under 13’s, under 14’s and under 15’s age groups

The real world PR.
And how many local teams compared to prior the Bear's removal.I repeat token now.Read the comments re Asquith from people who actually live in the area, and not get their wind from then Indian Ocean.Where are their fans.The fans who helped make a game against the Eagles at NSO draw over 20,000.

 

[Perth Red]

Thought it'd be interesting to take a look at Jnr club numbers across Sydney districts:

Penrith 22
Parramatta 21
Cronulla 17
Souths 16
Wests 15
Canterbury 14
Balmain 12
Manly 12
St George 9
NS 8
Roosters 4 (+ 16 CC Jnr clubs)
Total 150 Jnr clubs

Union 60 Jnr clubs
AFL 46 Jnr clubs

Interestingly there is a page set up for a joint Manly/NS District that isn't active yet, is that the plan?
http://websites.sportstg.com/select_node.cgi?cID=1302&p=7

WA has 18 Jnr clubs & Victoria has 17 Jnr clubs but wouldn't have anywhere near as many teams in each club as the Sydney clubs have.

 

[Stallion]

I've been trying to find a reference to Jnr club numbers in NS region in mid 90's, do you have one?

I would take the word of Taipan as accurate. 8 junior RL clubs is a very low number for that population base. So if you are thinking 8 is a good number It looks like you dont have a grasp of how strong rugby-league playing districts were and could be in Australia.

 

[Perth Red]

And how many local teams compared to prior the Bear's removal..

I keep asking but no one can give me reference to show what the drop off has been and if this drop is unique to NS or if it has been seen across other districts as well, indicating there would be other variables other than just the relegation of the Bears? Anecdotes are all well and good but evidence is better.

 

[Perth Red]

I would take the word of Taipan as accurate. 8 junior RL clubs is a very low number for that population base. So if you are thinking 8 is a good number It looks like you dont have a grasp of how strong rugby-league playing were and could be in Australia.

Is there a map anywhere showing how the Sydney RL districts are carved up? I don't know if its good or bad, that's why I'm trying to find evidence to make an informed decision on.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Roosters doing well from their 4 clubs...

 

[Stallion]

Is there a map anywhere showing how the Sydney RL districts are carved up? I don't know if its good or bad, that's why I'm trying to find evidence to make an informed decision on.

I believe Taipan. The losing of a senior top flight club would have a certain detrimental effect on junior numbers of that code. If that doesn't seem logical, then you have some common sense issues PR? It stands as a logical step for people to withdraw their kids from that code and go for another code . Even if its a protest move from the parents. Absolutely certain that this would have occured in North Sydney when the Bears were shafted amongst other clubs that had to merge.

 

[Stallion]

Roosters doing well from their 4 clubs...

Thats embarassing and reflective of lazy and poorly targeted development work. Their annual player trialist day is one of their main recruitment drives (i participated in this day in years gone by). Plenty of player talent. But shows their poor development attitude. This attitude can be improved!

 

[BuffaloRules]

Thats embarassing and reflective of lazy and poorly targeted development work. Their annual player trialist day is one of their main recruitment drives (i participated in this day in years gone by). Plenty of player talent. But shows their poor development attitude. This attitude can be improved!

And the Wests Tigers have 27 between them yet they are the first team that the anti - Sydney circle jerkers call on to be flicked...

 

[Stallion]

And the Wests Tigers have 27 between them yet they are the first team that the anti - Sydney circle jerkers call on to be flicked...

Id love to see them rebranded/renamed as the Balmain Campbelltown Tigers(the loss of the iconic 'Balmain ' name is damage the game does not need/same for the Magpie logo!) with Wests been given a license for a West Coast Magpie team. Think thats a better option than what's transpired with the shotgun arrangement courtesy of superleague.

 

[Perth Red]

I believe Taipan. The losing of a senior top flight club would have a certain detrimental effect on junior numbers of that code. If that doesn't seem logical, then you have some common sense issues PR? It stands as a logical step for people yo withdraw their kids from that code and go for another code . Even if its a protest move from the parents. Absolutely certain that this would have occured on North Sydney when the Bears were shafted amongst other clubs that had to merge.

I don't doubt there was an effect, same as we saw in WA in 98 and no doubt Union will see next year after Force culled. I'm trying to see how big an effect that was and wondering if it can be mitigated to a greater degree through other strategies. To say RL has died in NS district, has a token presence or that AFL has surpassed it is simply untrue from the evidence I have found so far.

 

[Perth Red]

And the Wests Tigers have 27 between them yet they are the first team that the anti - Sydney circle jerkers call on to be flicked...

That's why its good to take a look at facts, it helps informed discussion lol

 

[Perth Red]

Thats embarassing and reflective of lazy and poorly targeted development work. Their annual player trialist day is one of their main recruitment drives (i participated in this day in years gone by). Plenty of player talent. But shows their poor development attitude. This attitude can be improved!

Its not hard to see why Roosters have linked with CC. CC Jnr district has 16 Junior clubs. What's impressive is how big a presence the Roosters have on the CC RL website, serious co branding going on. Would indicate they are serious about making CC part of Roosters make up.

https://www.centralcoastrugbyleague.com.au/

 

[Stallion]

That's why its good to take a look at facts, it helps informed discussion lol

The facts are being forwarded and Im pretty sure playing numbers for junior males has been declining for decades. But the North Sydney area more so due to the abandonement look with the Bears exit.

 

[Stallion]

Its not hard to see why Roosters have linked with CC. CC Jnr district has 16 Junior clubs. What's impressive is how big a presence the Roosters have on the CC RL website, serious co branding going on. Would indicate they are serious about making CC part of Roosters make up.

https://www.centralcoastrugbyleague.com.au/

As a Roosters fan I would like their development work to concentrate on their area in Eastern Sydney instead of this 'escape to greener pastures option' . It's dissappointing and reeks of laziness toward their own district.

 

[T-Boon]

As a Roosters fan I would like their development work to concentrate on their area in Eastern Sydney instead of this 'escape to greener pastures option' . Its dissappointing and reeks of laziness toward their own district.

The Roosters have given up on the Eastern Suburbs. They quit years ago. RL managed to kill RU all over the country except Roosters territory. They weren't up to the task.
We actually need a brand new club in there branded in a way that will appeal to the wealthy, men, women, the gay community, the trendy, kids. These old NRL clubs just aren't going to be able to make an impact over there.

The Eastern Suburbs is possibly the only part of the whole of Australia maybe the entire pacific where RL is the fourth football code.

 

[Stallion]

Thought it'd be interesting to take a look at Jnr club numbers across Sydney districts:

Penrith 22
Parramatta 21
Cronulla 17
Souths 16
Wests 15
Balmain 12
Manly 12
St George 9
NS 8
Roosters 4 (+ 16 CC Jnr clubs)
Total 136 Jnr clubs

Union 60 Jnr clubs
AFL 46 Jnr clubs

Interestingly there is a page set up for a joint Manly/NS District that isn't active yet, is that the plan?
http://websites.sportstg.com/select_node.cgi?cID=1302&p=7

WA has 18 Jnr clubs & Victoria has 17 Jnr clubs but wouldn't have anywhere near as many teams in each club as the Sydney clubs have.

Good information PR. However it doesn't show the decline in player numbers for a junior club like Asquith. That is an alarming drop in numbers and basically coinciding since the Bears demise.

 

[Stallion]

The Roosters have given up on the Eastern Suburbs. They quit years ago. RL managed to kill RU all over the country except Roosters territory. They weren't up to the task.
We actually need a brand new club in there branded in a way that will appeal to the wealthy, men, women, the gay community, the trendy, kids. These old NRL clubs just aren't going to be able to make an impact over there.

The Eastern Suburbs is possibly the only part of the whole of Australia maybe the entire pacific where RL is the fourth football code.

Thats alarming and dissapointing! They need a genuine development person in their to get things on track. If AFL can go from virtually a handfull of clubs in the 70s to numbering above 40 nowadays so can rugby league in East Sydney. For a start I'd call the club the East Sydney Roosters. Targeting the schools, including private, with money prize incentives like a Roosters cup for various age groups may be fruitful. As it seems money is a pretty consistent carrot for this area and I'm sure the schools would be inclined to play the code with such financial bonuses up for grabs. Probably a more worthwhile money outlay then the exhorbitant cheques the club has been handing out to players over many decades.

 

[LeagueXIII]

How many clubs in the Canterbury area?

PR look at the number of clubs in the Norths District in the 1990's to today and the same in rugby union and Aussie Rules.

Teams may also be an interesting number to look at in each district.

 

[Perth Red]

How many clubs in the Canterbury area?

PR look at the number of clubs in the Norths District in the 1990's to today and the same in rugby union and Aussie Rules.

Teams may also be an interesting number to look at in each district.

What were the numbers? I keep asking lol
AFL has more clubs right across Sydney, why? Because they have pumped tens of millions of development $'s into the city. If we had spent the same in Melbourne there'd be a good chance we would have a lot more than 17 Jnr RL clubs in Victoria!


Sorry missed Bulldogs. 14 Jnr clubs