Greg Inglis avoids conviction over assault

[El Diablo]

if he isn't convicted then he's not guilty

 

[Gaba]

not really people often have settled out of court agreements, it doesnt mean they are not guilty

 

[El Diablo]

not really people often have settled out of court agreements, it doesnt mean they are not guilty

you can't be guilty unless a jury finds you are

 

[Gaba]

you can't be guilty unless a jury finds you are

You will get alot of people who will disagree with that statement

 

[El Diablo]

You will get alot of people who will disagree with that statement

that doesn't mean they're right

 

[kia ora storm]

You will get alot of people who will disagree with that statement

Exactly...and that is society in general being driven by the moral crusaders.

 

[Parra]

A third party is already involved - the person who called the police.

Then there is the botox provider, or the admission that the cops were lied to.

 

[Parra]

Exactly...and that is society in general being driven by the moral crusaders.

As opposed to those who think criminal law is the only standard applicable in society. There are a lot of people who like to lead their lives without that much direction from the government. They will choose their own standards.

 

[El Diablo]

A third party is already involved - the person who called the police.

Then there is the botox provider, or the admission that the cops were lied to.

where are you pulling this from?

 

[butchmcdick]

that doesn't mean they're right

So if a jury finds you not guilty then thats it then ?

OJ was innocent was he ? Michael Jackson ?

 

[butchmcdick]

where are you pulling this from?

Its simple, either she lied to the cops on the night or she lied to them when she gave her next statement. You know the one, the statement she made that totally contradicts her original one ?

 

[El Diablo]

So if a jury finds you not guilty then thats it then ?

OJ was innocent was he ? Michael Jackson ?

he was not guilty

are you thick :?

 

[butchmcdick]

he was not guilty

are you thick :?

So i guess everyone found guilty commited the crimes they were convicted of too el ?

 

[Kilmo(SP)]

Whether the girlfriend lied or not...If there is not complainant, no charge. I'm not saying that Inglis isn't guilty, I'm not saying he is....If the girlfriend lied to the Police in any of her statements, then it's upto them to pursue the case.....but is that in the public interest ?

And yes, if a Jury or Magistrate find him Guilty or Not Guilty....then that is it. Unless evidence can prove otherwise.....in this case, that evidence has been presented before it has gone to court by way of her new statement.

For those who choose to live outside the Government and it's "Direction", i believe the term for those people are "Criminals"

 

[El Diablo]

So i guess everyone found guilty commited the crimes they were convicted of too el ?

fmd

if someone is found not guilty then that's what they are. NOT GUILTY!

i know you don't like it, but that's the way it works

 

[Parra]

Whether the girlfriend lied or not...If there is not complainant, no charge. I'm not saying that Inglis isn't guilty, I'm not saying he is....If the girlfriend lied to the Police in any of her statements, then it's upto them to pursue the case.....but is that in the public interest ?

And yes, if a Jury or Magistrate find him Guilty or Not Guilty....then that is it. Unless evidence can prove otherwise.....in this case, that evidence has been presented before it has gone to court by way of her new statement.

For those who choose to live outside the Government and it's "Direction", i believe the term for those people are "Criminals"

Only if they commit crimes. And more importantly, are found guilty.

Avoiding crime is not an aspiration. It is about as low as you can aim. Most people have higher standards.

 

[Gaba]

fmd

if someone is found not guilty then that's what they are. NOT GUILTY!

i know you don't like it, but that's the way it works

But if this doesnt go to court then doubt will still hang around, because he wasnt found guilty or he was found guilty, it will be people opinions, and alot will feel he is guilty,

 

[El Diablo]

But if this doesnt go to court then doubt will still hang around, because he wasnt found guilty or he was found guilty, it will be people opinions, and alot will feel he is guilty,

they can feel whatever they like

he would not be guilty unless a he is convicted

 

[butchmcdick]

fmd

if someone is found not guilty then that's what they are. NOT GUILTY!

i know you don't like it, but that's the way it works

Not Guilty is a bit different to innocent though isn't it.

 

[Gaba]

they can feel whatever they like

he would not be guilty unless a he is convicted

As with the stewart case you can still be punish despite not being convicted