halves for next year?

[boxhead]

No, I don't think I was arguing as well.
Let's call it a discussion

I like that word, discussion!

 

[Wise Old Eel]

Do you think that with Morts appearing on the club's 2011 membership promotional flyer, that the situation was more likely to be the opposite with some sort of pressure on Anderson to keep picking Morts in the side?

I believe Morts could also be described also a sponsor of the club, with the wine business... not that that should make a difference in team selections. DA has been very dignified in his silence, but I personally would love to hear his side of proceedings, when the time comes that he can be open about it (timing may be subject to conditions of accepting a pay out).

Finally, someone says it. Lookout, Bartman. You are going to be labelled a conspiracy-theorist-nutcase now...

WOE

 

[bartman]

If the labels are coming from people who are still in em3perors-new-clothes stage and choosing not to open their eyes, then I can wear it WOE ;-)

 

[lingard]

Do you think that with Morts appearing on the club's 2011 membership promotional flyer, that the situation was more likely to be the opposite with some sort of pressure on Anderson to keep picking Morts in the side?

I believe Morts could also be described also a sponsor of the club, with the wine business... not that that should make a difference in team selections. DA has been very dignified in his silence, but I personally would love to hear his side of proceedings, when the time comes that he can be open about it (timing may be subject to conditions of accepting a pay out).

That`s just pure speculation - designed to make the board look bad (again). At the end of the day, the coach is the one who lives and dies by the selections. And Anderson hasn`t been 'dignified', necessarily; he signed a confidentiality agreement - which is normal and common-place and happens everywhere.

 

[lingard]

Finally, someone says it. Lookout, Bartman. You are going to be labelled a conspiracy-theorist-nutcase now...

WOE

I`ll concede that it is possible that there was pressure to keep selecting Mortimer. However, it is just as possible that Anderson was a very stubborn, bloody-minded fellow who could not admit when he was wrong.
At the moment, the 'official' situation is that Anderson was solely in charge of selections and recruitment. So anything else is pure speculation (or for those politically-minded, pure opportunism.) Daniel Anderson always seemed a pretty strong character; not the sort you would think was easily swayed by outside influences. And I don`t think Bartman is a conspiracy-theory nut-case; I think he has a definite agenda of trying to convince as many people as possible that the board is incompetent, and a bunch of 'cowboys and clowns'. The problem is that he has no evidence whatsoever that this is the case, so he latches onto any opportunity that might promote that argument. At the end of the day - no matter who was responsible - the selection of Mortimer all year was a tragedy.

 

[boxhead]

I`ll concede that it is possible that there was pressure to keep selecting Mortimer. However, it is just as possible that Anderson was a very stubborn, bloody-minded fellow who could not admit when he was wrong.
At the moment, the 'official' situation is that Anderson was solely in charge of selections and recruitment. So anything else is pure speculation (or for those politically-minded, pure opportunism.) Daniel Anderson always seemed a pretty strong character; not the sort you would think was easily swayed by outside influences. And I don`t think Bartman is a conspiracy-theory nut-case; I think he has a definite agenda of trying to convince as many people as possible that the board is incompetent, and a bunch of 'cowboys and clowns'. The problem is that he has no evidence whatsoever that this is the case, so he latches onto any opportunity that might promote that argument. At the end of the day - no matter who was responsible - the selection of Mortimer all year was a tragedy.

Unfortunately lingard, who else could we have picked in the halves? We weren't going to move Hayne, Humble wasn't ready, none of our other young halves stood out...
It's not like Ando really had a choice.

 

[Springs]

Unfortunately lingard, who else could we have picked in the halves? We weren't going to move Hayne, Humble wasn't ready, none of our other young halves stood out...
It's not like Ando really had a choice.

Pfft. Boxhead, if you haven't already noticed, according to others Humble was already the greatest player in the universe, beside Hayne.

 

[caylo]

Pfft. Boxhead, if you haven't already noticed, according to others Humble was already the greatest player in the universe, beside Hayne.

Springs Humble won player of the year in QLD in 2009, won best back for wenty this year. What more do you wan the guy to do, he is as good an option as Mortimer IMO. Humble and Mitchell should have been given a chance much earlier then they were. If it was the board or our CEO putting pressure on Anderson to retain him then they should get the sack IMO.

The whole idea that there were no other options is wrong, in 2009 Anderson took a punt on Mortimer who had proven less then Humble. In 09 we had just lost finch, kk and Mateo were injuried and Robson and Mortimer were brought up, two very inexperianced halves (5 games between them).

We had Robson, Humble, KK and Mortimer to chose from and after 10-15 games Mortimer should have got the punt IMO. Robson-Humble halves combo would have worked much better IMO and we could do alot worse than give that combo a shot next year.

 

[lingard]

Unfortunately lingard, who else could we have picked in the halves? We weren't going to move Hayne, Humble wasn't ready, none of our other young halves stood out...
It's not like Ando really had a choice.

Tell me how you can say that and keep a straight face. Actually, forget about the straight face bit. Just tell me what Humble did to make you think he wasn`t ready for first grade. And if we can give poor Daniel Mortimer the excuse that he had to play half-back for half the season, then spare a thought for Humble who had to play hooker, centre, full-back and half-back. Why do you think he wasn`t ready for first grade?

 

[boxhead]

My god some of you people are tragics.
Play fair.



Anyway, on Foxsports News, they reported that Daniel Mortimer was the most impressive player on the first-day of training, and they said he wants to secure the number 7 jersey.
Well, he's working hard and has the self-confidence, that was what he needed.

 

[Springs]

Way to say what you guys have repeated 1000 times before.

 

[boxhead]

Originally posted by boxhead
My god some of you people are tragics.
Play fair.

;-)

Anyway, on Foxsports News, they reported that Daniel Mortimer was the most impressive player on the first-day of training, and they said he wants to secure the number 7 jersey.
Well, he's working hard and has the self-confidence, that was what he needed.

This is some news for you guys to think about. Before you start laying into Mortimer, FFS be positive for once and at least give the kid some credit for trying hard.

 

[SDM]

Brett Funch tried hard

 

[Eels Dude]

]My god some of you people are tragics.[/B]
Play fair.

:lol:

 

[lingard]

This is some news for you guys to think about. Before you start laying into Mortimer, FFS be positive for once and at least give the kid some credit for trying hard.

Why don`t you give Tom Humble some credit? And you still haven`t answered my question. Is it too hard?

 

[boxhead]

Why don`t you give Tom Humble some credit? And you still haven`t answered my question. Is it too hard?

I give Tom Humble every credit. He is a great talent. I also give every other player the credit they deserve. That should tell you immediately how I feel about this whole situation. I don't give a rats who the particular player is that is being criticised, I care that they are our players and I defend them.

And I haven't seen your question. I was merely making a joke and pointing out an interesting tid-bit that says Morts wants to play halfback next season.

Alright, when I say not ready for first-grade, I mean he still needs more work. I like the kid but I admit he still needs to work on his game before he becomes a consistent first-grader.

When I am called biased and moronic for having an opinion, I think I don't want to get involved anymore re Morts. That's something I should have done a while ago. I was joking around with my recent posts as I indicated I would, and some people have taken it far too seriously.
If you all want to have a fight about who plays what then go ahead. Have fun.

And I'm not saying you did anything lingard, I'm just referring to past occurences.


Get it?

Take a chill pill everyone!!!

 

[lingard]

I give Tom Humble every credit. He is a great talent. I also give every other player the credit they deserve. That should tell you immediately how I feel about this whole situation. I don't give a rats who the particular player is that is being criticised, I care that they are our players and I defend them.

And I haven't seen your question. I was merely making a joke and pointing out an interesting tid-bit that says Morts wants to play halfback next season.

Alright, when I say not ready for first-grade, I mean he still needs more work. If you want to argue with me, at least admit he still needs to work on his game before he becomes a consistent first-grader. And yes, you can point our Mortimer to me all you like but I don't honestly care. I'm not arguing that anymore, nor am I going to argue this entire ridiculous argument.

When I am called biased and moronic for having an opinion, I think I don't want to get involved anymore. That's something I should have done a while ago. I was joking around with my recent posts as I indicated I would, and some people have taken it far too seriously.
If you all want to have a fight about who plays what then go ahead. I don't give a rats.

And I'm not saying you did anything lingard, I'm just referring to past occurences.

Well, we`re having a conversation. I`m not calling you moronic. What`s up with you? I simply asked you why you thought Tom Humble was not ready for first grade. What areas do you think he needs to work on? But if you`re just going to carry on like a little girl about it, then I`m not really interested in your reply anyway. ( I don`t think you actually have a reply.) You`re the one who continues with all this Mortimer bullsh*t and then doesn`t want to hear any other side of the conversation. Bit unfair, isn`t it?

 

[boxhead]

Well, we`re having a conversation. I`m not calling you moronic. What`s up with you? I simply asked you why you thought Tom Humble was not ready for first grade. What areas do you think he needs to work on? But if you`re just going to carry on like a little girl about it, then I`m not really interested in your reply anyway. ( I don`t think you actually have a reply.) You`re the one who continues with all this Mortimer bullsh*t and then doesn`t want to hear any other side of the conversation. Bit unfair, isn`t it?

See my edited post. I was joking around again.

You have to remember (I said it earlier), I'm not going to post any really serious argumentative stuff regarding our halves anymore.

I'm trying to get everyone to loosen up by laughing at my stupid comments, and it's half-worked, and half-turned out wrong. Sorry if I offended you!!

That was unfair though uncle lingy, wasn't it?

 

[lingard]

See my edited post. I was joking around again.

You have to remember (I said it earlier), I'm not going to post any really serious argumentative stuff regarding our halves anymore.

I'm trying to get everyone to loosen up by laughing at my stupid comments, and it's half-worked, and half-turned out wrong. Sorry if I offended you!!

That was unfair though uncle lingy, wasn't it?

So you`ve no idea what areas Tom Humble needs to work on. I thought so.

 

[boxhead]

So you`ve no idea what areas Tom Humble needs to work on. I thought so.

He needs to get more involved, work on his placement within the team, improve his kicking and passing in first-grade and he will be sweet Also needs to gradually be introduced into the pressures of first-grade, coming off the bench in a hooker role and simply passing and running out of dummy-half will not only boost his confidence and make it easy for him by keeping it simple, but also improve his development in short stints.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

At the moment he is not a first-grade half, but that will come with time. It's merely his age and lack of experience and ability to cope with first-grade pressure that is holding him back, like any normal player. Experience comes with gradual introduction into first-grade, not tossing him into a pivotal role and heaping pressure on him. We have to keep his development steady, not rush it.

Each of our halves have different issues affecting them - although Humble's really aren't issues, more just common-place effects.

Mortimer needs to work on his consistency, the length and strength in his kicking, as well as the accuracy and consistency of those kicks, and he needs to learn to improve his passing game. He also needs to communicate a lot more with the forwards when they are looking for someone to offload to, that way he can gradually develop his current skills at knowing where to be in the run of play. This is basic halves stuff that he can improve on.

Jeff Robson needs to play a bit more consistently than what he showed in 2010, his kicking and passing games are solid and unremarkable, if he works on communicating more with the players and being mentored by natural leaders such as Hindy he can find the confidence within himself and also learn to communicate and lead the team around better.