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Hayne needs to get an education

POPEYE

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Cash-Money!!

In the NRL the highest paid guys in the competition are looking at 750K to 1.5M a year.

If your a good skill position player in the NFL you could potentially earn anything from 5 to 15 million a year.

Since Australia is not much smaller in area than the States all it needs is the population to be 320 million and League players would be getting the same as NFL players. If that were the case I reckon we'd have a chuckle if any NFL player thought he could make the grade in our game . . . more so than we do now
 

Canard

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Whats that got to do with anything? Im talking purely athletic ability here.

As for the bball how many times have the US lost since 2004? Not whole tourneys, single games?

That the myth of the USA being unbeatable super gods with IQs of Einstein is exaggerated.

And your suggestion that LBJ is just a typical example of an athlete in the US ridiculous.

It's like saying all Jamaicans are as good as Usain Bolt.
 
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Running fast means nothing in the NFL, unless you have the skill to back it up. But you obviously have no idea about American Football, so i won't bother explaining.

I was responding to someone who was responding to someone who said "Have u guys ever seen a lebron james type Athlete in Aus? Dwight Howard? The best US athletes are certainly better than ours, the gap might not be as big as some make out but there is a gap."

Follow the conversation. Obviously skill is important
 

POPEYE

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The best US athletes are paid to be explosive which is the reason they have the best athletes that are not stamina orientated. League, Soccer, Union and AFL has far better athletes for the job they are asked to do than you'd find in the States because they are indoctrinated that way . . . to say the US has better athletes in general is f**king stupid
 

betcats

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That the myth of the USA being unbeatable super gods with IQs of Einstein is exaggerated.

And your suggestion that LBJ is just a typical example of an athlete in the US ridiculous.

It's like saying all Jamaicans are as good as Usain Bolt.

How many losses since 2004?its less competitve now then it was in 2004 now.

And LBJ is an example of one of their best athletes, which is my point, their best athletes are better than our best. I never said he was typical ur just making shit up cause u got nothing.

EDIT: since coach k took over in 2005 USA basketball team record is 75-1. 1 loss in 10 years but yeah its pretty competitive a canard? Lol
 
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Canard

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How many losses since 2004?its less competitve now then it was in 2004 now.

And LBJ is an example of one of their best athletes, which is my point, their best athletes are better than our best. I never said he was typical ur just making shit up cause u got nothing.

EDIT: since coach k took over in 2005 USA basketball team record is 75-1. 1 loss in 10 years but yeah its pretty competitive a canard? Lol

Do you understand what competitive means? What's New Zealands Win Loss record against Australia in the last decade? Do you think that's an indication of the competition between the two sides?

If Hayne actually makes a it onto the field, I'm sure your sycophant mind will claim that he must have paid them to do so.
 

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Do you understand what competitive means? What's New Zealands Win Loss record against Australia in the last decade? Do you think that's an indication of the competition between the two sides?

If Hayne actually makes a it onto the field, I'm sure your sycophant mind will claim that he must have paid them to do so.

I know for a fact that the gap between usa and the rest of the world is bigger now than in 2004. USA mens basketball team is as close to unbeatable as as it gets in modern team sports. 04 is highly unlikely to happen again in our lifetime. Keep clutching at straws.

Hayne is a world class athlete if he makes it good for him, i doubt he will though.

Edit: FTR I would be stoked for Hayne if he has some success, once again you are making things up becase you have nothing.
 
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Canard

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I know for a fact that the gap between usa and the rest of the world is bigger now than in 2004. USA mens basketball team is as close to unbeatable as as it gets in modern team sports. 04 is highly unlikely to happen again in our lifetime. Keep clutching at straws.

Hayne is a world class athlete if he makes it good for him, i doubt he will though.

Edit: FTR I would be stoked for Hayne if he has some success, once again you are making things up becase you have nothing.

There's that phrase that the USA sycophants keep using "fact" when its just one arsehole's opinion.

Except for the 2006 World champs which they didn't even make the Gold medal game, did you mean twice in a lifetime???

To claim that the reason that the most obese nation on Earth are good at the sport they invented, have supported by multi million dollar infrastructure, coaching and huge sponsorship is all proof positive that the US have the best athletes, is ridiculous.
 

betcats

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There's that phrase that the USA sycophants keep using "fact" when its just one arsehole's opinion.

Except for the 2006 World champs which they didn't even make the Gold medal game, did you mean twice in a lifetime???

To claim that the reason that the most obese nation on Earth are good at the sport they invented, have supported by multi million dollar infrastructure, coaching and huge sponsorship is all proof positive that the US have the best athletes, is ridiculous.

Coch K has a .987 winning record with team USA the last ten years, once again a 75-1 win loss record. its a fact the gap is bigger than 2004, no nation is close to them now. They just sent a second string team to last years world cup and won the final by 40 points. LBJ, Durant, Paul, Westbrook, Love, George, Aldrige, Griffin, Anthony, Howard would all walk onto roster spots for team USA and they all pulled out and USA still destroyed everyone. They are just the notable players who pulled out, the ones who would make a full strength squad, there were lots of other tier 2 guys injured as well.

And saying because they have lost two tourneys in 20 years they dont have the best athletes is just as ridiculous.
 
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I really dont think people arguing for the competitiveness of international basketball are making their case stronger.

Take the US out and yeah, it's pretty competitive. But 75-1 record kinda speaks for itself. Team USA are so far above the rest it's kinda scary, and as betcats says, it's not like they play full strength either, every time these comps come around 4-5 walk up starters pull out of Team USA to rest in the off season
 

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The Bay Area podcast I listen to had a niners insider interviewed about the 49ers RB position and how they were going forward with the current roster and who was going to be the future for that position at the Niners.

The interview was 17mins.... And they never mentioned Jarryd Hayne once.... Which really surprised me.

It shows that there isn't any serious expectation from the Niners media about Hayne.
 

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The Bay Area podcast I listen to had a niners insider interviewed about the 49ers RB position and how they were going forward with the current roster and who was going to be the future for that position at the Niners.

The interview was 17mins.... And they never mentioned Jarryd Hayne once.... Which really surprised me.

It shows that there isn't any serious expectation from the Niners media about Hayne.

Im gonna generalise pretty badly here, but US fans are pretty arrogant, they wont give two shits if Hayne is the greatest Aussie athlete of all time until he proves something in their game they wont care about him. And being realistic it would be a huge coup for him to get a 2nd or 3rd string punt return spot so its not the biggest news obviously.
 
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shiznit

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Im gonna generalise pretty badly here, but us fans are pretty arrogant, they wont give two shits if Hayne is the greatest Aussie athlete of all time until he proves something in their game they wont care about him. And being realistic it would be a huge coup for him to get a 2nd or 3rd string punt return spot so its not the biggest news obviously.
I was still surprised he didn't get a mention... As they were discussing the RB depth and who could potentially cover Frank Gore next season and in to the future...

They even mentioned how they were wanting to move away from a lead back and work it by committee.,, and they mentioned the potential split in carries and who could potentially be in play for each workload... They didn't mention him at all... That's crazy IMO...
 

betcats

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He isnt going to get a running back spot, the learning curve is huge and its one of their main positions, no way he is in contention to play RB.
 

Canard

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Im gonna generalise pretty badly here, but US fans are pretty arrogant, they wont give two shits if Hayne is the greatest Aussie athlete of all time until he proves something.

Sounds pretty close to a lot of posters in this thread.
 

shiznit

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He isnt going to get a running back spot, the learning curve is huge and its one of their main positions, no way he is in contention to play RB.
Not a starting spot... But he needs to be on a skill position depth chart somewhere....

There's no such thing as a specialist kick or punt returner... Well not in a 53 man roster anyway...

If he's going to make the roster he needs to be a kick/punt returner and a serviceable 3rd or 4th string RB.

The better he is at returning kicks/punts... The more leeway and patience they will give his transition to being a RB.
 

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