How many weeks for Billy Slaters Karate kick to the head of David Klemmer?

[Danish]

Saying that Slater's boot was unintentional is about as solid a defence as saying a prop running with a cocked elbow out in front has no intention.

Should get 4-5 weeks if they are fair dinkum, but he'll get 1 week maybe. More likely he'll get off completely like they did the first 3-4 times he kicked blokes in the face while they were scoring tries

 

[NrlCoach]

Anyone saying Klemmer was definitely going to make a mid air tackle is delusional. He had enough time to wait for Slaters other leg to hit the ground before touching him. The only contact made before he hit the ground was Slaters boot to his face.

It might not be worth of a suspension but the action definitely needs to be changed before someone cops a stud to the eye.

but but Poor bill had defend himself because big bad klemmer was going to tackle him in the air :lol:

 

[no name]

OMG. Case closed.

What that actually definitively proves is that Slater jumped the way he always jumps and had no idea Klemmer was even there.

Do people even understand the process of jumping that high? The whole assumption that Slater has chosen to jump in that style as a defensive measure doesn't even have any basis. Many player who jump that high would raise a leg, or maybe a knee, in a similar fashion depending on their style. To claim he was doing it to kick any player is unprovable and probably onerous.

It has the basis of Smith saying he practices it at training.
IMO he wasn't doing it on purpose, still doesn't make it legal when he collects a chaser in the face.

 

[The General]

OMG. Case closed.

What that actually definitively proves is that Slater jumped the way he always jumps and had no idea Klemmer was even there.

Do people even understand the process of jumping that high? The whole assumption that Slater has chosen to jump in that style as a defensive measure doesn't even have any basis. Many player who jump that high would raise a leg, or maybe a knee, in a similar fashion depending on their style. To claim he was doing it to kick any player is unprovable and probably onerous.

The argument isn't that it was intentional. The argument is that it's careless or reckless. If you can't see something wrong with his action then you won't care if someone cops studs in the eyes next time he does it.

 

[bellyache]

What an amazing athlete Bruce Lee was. A lot of people would recognise that shot, but for the uninitiated, that's a scene out of Game of Death with Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He's 7'2", Lee was 5'7". And no, no trampoline is involved.

David Klemmer Slater took him out!

• Date of Birth: 22 December, 1993
• Height: 200 cm
• Weight: 120 kg
• Position: Front Row
• Rep. Honours: Australian Schoolboys (2010/11); NSW U18's (2011)
• Junior Clubs: All Saints Toongabbie
• Previous Clubs: NA
• FG Debut: NA
• Club Debut:

 

[typicalfan]

One was possibly going to. One did.

You are right, and Slater will probably get a warning and a slap on the wrist but if it happens again you can bet the NRL will get on their soapbox and overreact like they did with the shoulder charge rule.

The fact that Klemmer was going in to make an illegal play will play a part in proceedings no doubt. If it was someone in the vicinity that was contesting the ball or not competing Slater would be in more trouble.

This is the way the NRL PR machine operates. I am happy to say it was an accident and give Slater a slap on the wrist. What if he was facing forward and his knee made contact instead like say Beale on Lockyer a few years back? Collisions happen that are accidental and this is one of them.

 

[madunit]

That picture also shows where Slater's focus is.

And it's not on Klemmer.

 

[ns7]

This mong actually thinks he is proving a point.

Every player is different genius. They will catch balls differently.

genius alert ^^^^

Slater actually mentions post game that sticking his foot out is a deliberate action to keep players away. It is not how he jumps. Moron

 

[thorson1987]

It has the basis of Smith saying he practices it at training.
IMO he wasn't doing it on purpose, still doesn't make it legal when he collects a chaser in the face.

Still doesn't make it Illegal either.

Reckless contact and will get 0 weeks.

 

[Game_Breaker]

No it's as ridiculous as the anti-Slater argument is getting.

He has every right to catch a ball in the air in the style he does, not least because that's how a lot of people catch high balls.

If any player wants to make contact with him while he is doing so THEY are the ones in the wrong.

No, he does not have that right if that style involves careless/reckless play.

 

[no name]

Still doesn't make it Illegal either.

Reckless contact and will get 0 weeks.

He made contact with someone's face, with his boot.
That's as illegal as it gets.

 

[The General]

That picture also shows where Slater's focus is.

And it's not on Klemmer.

So explain why players are still penalised for head high contact when the ball carrier falls dramatically. Rules are in place to protect players from serious injury. This has the potential for serious injury. It's not hard to understand.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

What about knees?

Are you allowed to raise your knees while taking a kick?

Surely that's reckless, right?

It must be something he deliberately uses, can't possibly be his natural way of taking kicks.

Maybe he needs to go back to rehab to fix it.

 

[thorson1987]

He made contact with someone's face, with his boot.
That's as illegal as it gets.

What I am saying is the way he jumps is not illegal, which a lot of people don't seem to understand.

There is nothing wrong with jumping like that to protect yourself, but if you do come into contact then expect to be penalised.

 

[gypsy]

One of the most disgusting acts I've seen on a footy field in some time. 6 weeks with the EGP is about right.

 

[ns7]

You are right, and Slater will probably get a warning and a slap on the wrist but if it happens again you can bet the NRL will get on their soapbox and overreact like they did with the shoulder charge rule.

The fact that Klemmer was going in to make an illegal play will play a part in proceedings no doubt. If it was someone in the vicinity that was contesting the ball or not competing Slater would be in more trouble.

This is the way the NRL PR machine operates. I am happy to say it was an accident and give Slater a slap on the wrist. What if he was facing forward and his knee made contact instead like say Beale on Lockyer a few years back? Collisions happen that are accidental and this is one of them.

You cannot say that Klemmer was going t make that tackle in an illegal manner. That photo posted above shows Klemmer backing off slightly.

Saying Klemmer was going to make an illegal tackle is not an argument. Klemmer was backing out of that tackle is just as easily used.

The only action that is in play is Slater's boot to Klemmer's head.

Slater admits that he deliberately raises his boot to keep players away. Well that is reckless & dangerous and should be charged as such? Did he mean to kick Klemmer in the face? NO. But the reckless and dangerous charge should still stand

 

[East Coast Tiger]

genius alert ^^^^

Slater actually mentions post game that sticking his foot out is a deliberate action to keep players away. It is not how he jumps. Moron

Yes it is. He jumps, that's how he does it. Comprehend?

Klemmer also mentioned after the game that it was an accident but the mongs are ignoring that.

Slater has every right to jump like that because while he is in the air NO ONE can touch him. Anyone who does is breaking the laws of the game. That's the start and end of it.

 

[Ulysseus]

I lol'd hard with the usual "its not his go" crap from the Nine commentators.............

Studs first sliding towards players as they were going for the line ring any bells?
Kicking Scando in the head?

Unintentional it may be, but careless it is - although I would say it is a defence mechanism to deter people from rushing at him.
Although players aren't entitled to tackle him mid air they are allowed to rush at him and be Johnny on the spot when one foot hits the ground.
This studs first crap is obviously a deterrent to this.

 

[Billythekid]

So explain why players are still penalised for head high contact when the ball carrier falls dramatically. Rules are in place to protect players from serious injury. This has the potential for serious injury. It's not hard to understand.

Playing rugby league has the potential for serious injury. You can jump up for a contested ball and end up with a horrible broken leg just like last years nightmare incident. Should we stop players contesting bombs as well?

That in itself is not a reason for something to be outlawed.

 

[Constraint]

So, when fielding bombs or high kicks of any kind, it's alright for the fullback to extend his studs out towards the neck/face of opposition players to ward off any potential challenge to the ball/tackle to the player?

What a load of codswallop. Amazingly dreadful start to the thread too, on a public forum: "Whoever disagrees with my geniused opinion is even more of a genius - just wait and see!"

I'd be happy for anything between 2 and 4 weeks. I'd drop a lazy $5 on 0-1, however.