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I cant believe it but i hate Hayne!!!

WaznTheGreat

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How is any of that relevant to the fact that Hayne walked out mid-contract, with frig all notice?

It's not Hayne's fault that they shut down the Harold Park trotting track either....it's just irrelevant to the assessment of the decency of his behaviour.

It isn't relevant because i wasn't mentioning anything about that,the people above me said Hayne leaving left there squad in a spot of bother/hard to adjust roster,Not Hayne's fault there squad and recruitment is useless and that they have no decent yongsters coming through.
 

Obscene Assassin

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I don't hate JH, but I've lost all respect for him. Not because he left, or coz he has ambition.....that's all cool. It's coz he left in such a way as to make it hard for the club to adjust their roster when he left. That's not the behaviour of anyone deserving of respect.

Still believing that the club only knew on the Tuesday that Hayne was going to leave. The club basically gave Hayne permission to go to the NFL when they allowed him to go to Seattle after we dropped out of competition. They would have known his intentions before they allowed this and would have been asking managers right away about their client's services.

Hayne may have told them definitively that he was leaving on the Tuesday but the potential move would have been on the cards for much longer.

What's the difference between Hayne going to the NFL and him retiring?
 
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Still believing that the club only knew on the Tuesday that Hayne was going to leave. The club basically gave Hayne permission to go to the NFL when they allowed him to go to Seattle after we dropped out of competition. They would have known his intentions before they allowed this and would have been asking managers right away about their client's services.

Hayne may have told them definitively that he was leaving on the Tuesday but the potential move would have been on the cards for much longer.

What's the difference between Hayne going to the NFL and him retiring?

But knowing that there's a 'potential move' is of bugger all use to the club. You can't sign a top level replacement on the basis that he might or might not leave. The fact that the club let him go to the US is not evidence of anything. The club may well have expected him to make contacts in the US this year, with a view to a possible move at the end of his contract, but expected him to play out 2015 with us.

Your own post concedes that that he may only have told the club that he was definitely leaving on Tuesday........which is precisely the issue that I have a problem with.

As for the retiring thing.....I'd be similarly pissed off if he decided to wait til October 14 to make that decision (assuming it wasn't a sudden injury type thing).
 

Poupou Escobar

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Not Hayne's fault the club spent like 250k on the useless Justin Hunt,450k on the useless Darcy Lussick,800k on the useless Hoppa,brought in the useless Reece Robinson, Beau Champion and Corey Norman,not Hayne's fault the club has no decent juniors coming through,not Hayne's fault the club doesn't wanna spend money on a replacement and use the useless Hoppa

Club's fault there in this position

The club is in a great position now they're rid of Jarryd Hayne's $1.5M contract and his $2 'leadership'. That's nobody's fault.
 

lingard

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I've said it in other threads but with the title of this one being about hating Hayne, I guess I'll say it here, too.

I don't hate him. I wish him all the best in what is a f**king gutsy move.

I don't hate him because something like this (general abandonment, not NFL) was what I expected to happen at some point.

The reason there's so much butthurt is because you've all been shown to be fools, and when people's stupidity is revealed they often get defensive and blame the revealer.

We'll have another ridiculously talented player come along at some point...tomorrow...five years...twenty years from now...and when we do, you all need to remember what happened with Hayne.

Hero worship is for children. You should all learn your lesson and grow up.

Sorry, Hollywood, but I disagree. I think - far from being worshipped - Hayne was criticised, pilloried, had his character assassinated and was generally held responsible when Parramatta failed on the field. He was laughed at for his supposed bad attitude; his poor goal-line defence; his lack of leadership and his not trying hard enough when the chips were down. All these things were proven to be myths. No, I think Jarryd Hayne will go down in history as Parramatta's most under-rated player ever. Well, maybe a tie with Mick Cronin.
 

lingard

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I don't hate JH, but I've lost all respect for him. Not because he left, or coz he has ambition.....that's all cool. It's coz he left in such a way as to make it hard for the club to adjust their roster when he left. That's not the behaviour of anyone deserving of respect.

You're kidding, right? We all sit around on our keyboards criticising this club for their unprofessionalism, in-fighting, poor recruitment and retention, and sacking of coaches. And yet here is a guy who has stuck solid with all this pitiful shit and basically carried the team on his back for lengthy periods; who could have been God knows how good in a team like Souths or Easts or Melbourne, but stayed here because he was loyal. And you think he owes this club anything? He could have (should have) left last year, but thought he owed Brad Arthur one year, seeing as he played a part in getting him to the club.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I don't know why you resort to trolling when you clearly have just as many valid insights as the rest of us.

I'm sure you know I wish we got rid of Hayne after his last contract. Thank f**k he walked away because nobody at the club had the balls to let him go.
 

Eelementary

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lol how is it egocentric to say that NFL players could easily do someone that he has done his whole life? That sounds like modesty not egocentricity

This is 100% correct so what's the problem? Everyone knows that even pee wee football teams in America have better training facilities than our NRL clubs

To say that any of their athletes could walk right up and play NRL (when Hayne is being doubted at every step of the way) implies that he doesn't think too highly of our code (and at the same time he's blowing smoke up the NFL's arse to butter them up).

It may well be true that NRL facilities are third world compared to NFL facilities, but I just think it's very tactless to blurt it out two days after walking out on a contract with a club you supposedly love.

I wish him the best - truly.

But I've lost respect for the bloke because I honestly thought he was better than that.

I will get over his leaving - good luck to him.
 

Eelementary

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This is right.
Professional training in the NRL does suck compared to the NFL.
They can spend millions more on their training regimes. More money equals better training.
I haven't taken anything Hayne has said as "belittling" the code. More just talking up his new challenge.

He did an interview with some radio show where he said that tge front row is the tougher position in rugby league, and that the NFL's top defensive ends could easily play in the front row in league.

Ok, so a guy who is 6'8" and 180kg is a marvelous physical specimen a but he'd be a huge liability in terms of mobility and fitness.

IMO to suggest their top athletes could walk into our code is disrespectful to our athletes.
 

Poupou Escobar

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What's he supposed to f**king say? Nah NFL players are shit, that's why I think I'll make it in their sport.

He's already going to be a massive target. There's no point putting himself under any more pressure by bad mouthing his potential team mates and opponents. That's what these interviewers are trying to get out of him.
 
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You're kidding, right? We all sit around on our keyboards criticising this club for their unprofessionalism, in-fighting, poor recruitment and retention, and sacking of coaches. And yet here is a guy who has stuck solid with all this pitiful shit and basically carried the team on his back for lengthy periods; who could have been God knows how good in a team like Souths or Easts or Melbourne, but stayed here because he was loyal. And you think he owes this club anything? He could have (should have) left last year, but thought he owed Brad Arthur one year, seeing as he played a part in getting him to the club.

No I'm not kidding. As I've said about a dozen times, unlike others I've got no problem at all with him wanting to leave and do other stuff, or with him deciding to leave. I have a big problem with the lack of notice. He doesn't owe us anything special.....just reasonable notice if he decides he wants to get out what he promised to do. Read my posts, not what you think I said.
 

Eelementary

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What's he supposed to f**king say? Nah NFL players are shit, that's why I think I'll make it in their sport.

He's already going to be a massive target. There's no point putting himself under any more pressure by bad mouthing his potential team mates and opponents. That's what these interviewers are trying to get out of him.

From a guy who says he's "a smart cookie" (Hayne's words), either he or his PR person should realise it's not the best thing to be saying.

He can blow smoke up the NFL's arse without denigrating the NRL.

Anyway - good luck to him. He'll need it.

He will also need more than one year to give it a real shot.
 

hineyrulz

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No I'm not kidding. As I've said about a dozen times, unlike others I've got no problem at all with him wanting to leave and do other stuff, or with him deciding to leave. I have a big problem with the lack of notice. He doesn't owe us anything special.....just reasonable notice if he decides he wants to get out what he promised to do. Read my posts, not what you think I said.
x2, i'm sure a lot of us feel the same.
 
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From a guy who says he's "a smart cookie" (Hayne's words), either he or his PR person should realise it's not the best thing to be saying.

He can blow smoke up the NFL's arse without denigrating the NRL.

Anyway - good luck to him. He'll need it.

He will also need more than one year to give it a real shot.

His PR people can't speak for him, tho. I've always thought he was a bit of a dill off the field. Combine that with the spotlight being firmly focused on him right now and the fact that he's probably going through some emotional issues at present, I wouldn't put too much weight in anything that's coming out of his mouth atm.

As to the timing of his leaving, that's certainly more than debatable.
 

Eelementary

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His PR people can't speak for him, tho. I've always thought he was a bit of a dill off the field. Combine that with the spotlight being firmly focused on him right now and the fact that he's probably going through some emotional issues at present, I wouldn't put too much weight in anything that's coming out of his mouth atm.

As to the timing of his leaving, that's certainly more than debatable.

True.

And I'm sure Jarryd's emotions are all over the place, too.

I just find it frustrating when he talks up the NFL and their athletes at the expense of the NRL and its athletes. He can blow smoke up the NFL without criticisng the NRL IMO.
 

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