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I cant believe it but i hate Hayne!!!

lingard

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I'm sure you know I wish we got rid of Hayne after his last contract. Thank f**k he walked away because nobody at the club had the balls to let him go.

Yes, I know that's your opinion - and I understand where you are coming from (even though I don't agree with you). But "$2 leadership"? Really?
 

lingard

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What's he supposed to f**king say? Nah NFL players are shit, that's why I think I'll make it in their sport.

He's already going to be a massive target. There's no point putting himself under any more pressure by bad mouthing his potential team mates and opponents. That's what these interviewers are trying to get out of him.


Exactly. A lot of Hayne's 'attitude' over the years is simply (deliberate?) misunderstanding.
 

lingard

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No I'm not kidding. As I've said about a dozen times, unlike others I've got no problem at all with him wanting to leave and do other stuff, or with him deciding to leave. I have a big problem with the lack of notice. He doesn't owe us anything special.....just reasonable notice if he decides he wants to get out what he promised to do. Read my posts, not what you think I said.


I read your post. And that's what I thought you said. That it was only the lack of notice that bothered you. And like I said, he wanted to leave last year but figured he'd give the Eels and brad Arthur the support he thought he owed them. So he's shaved a valuable year off his already theoretically slim chances. I just don't understand how anyone could have a problem with that. But it doesn't matter.
 

Twizzle

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you mean "Have a look at to whom you were replying"

never end a sentence with a preposition
 

Sujskiez

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No I'm not kidding. As I've said about a dozen times, unlike others I've got no problem at all with him wanting to leave and do other stuff, or with him deciding to leave. I have a big problem with the lack of notice. He doesn't owe us anything special.....just reasonable notice if he decides he wants to get out what he promised to do. Read my posts, not what you think I said.

What do u mean by timing i reckon this was probably the best time to leave, when do you want him to leave in the middle of the season or even at the end of the season when the eels have a chance of making top 8. To me you just don't know whats it is like having a dream and he choose to chase his dream in the last minute when the season was over and knowing with the money the club will have left the club can buy themself a good players on the market. He had a dream he's chasing it, he had the guts to do something that not many people do he didn't want to leave his whole life saying to himself "what if i had done that". He's taking a gamble at his dreams knowing if he succeeds he would be an inspiration to those people who don't have the guts to chase their dreams and if he fails he knows he will be back at Parra playing the footy he used to play. When people get that into their heads they would start resting him also hence the reason he has hired camera crews to film him knowing if he succeeds this documentary can inspire kids and other people to start chasing their dreams.
 
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What do u mean by timing i reckon this was probably the best time to leave, when do you want him to leave in the middle of the season or even at the end of the season when the eels have a chance of making top 8. To me you just don't know whats it is like having a dream and he choose to chase his dream in the last minute when the season was over and knowing with the money the club will have left the club can buy themself a good players on the market. He had a dream he's chasing it, he had the guts to do something that not many people do he didn't want to leave his whole life saying to himself "what if i had done that". He's taking a gamble at his dreams knowing if he succeeds he would be an inspiration to those people who don't have the guts to chase their dreams and if he fails he knows he will be back at Parra playing the footy he used to play. When people get that into their heads they would start resting him also hence the reason he has hired camera crews to film him knowing if he succeeds this documentary can inspire kids and other people to start chasing their dreams.

By timing I mean when he told the club that he definitely won't be here in 2015. I'm not talking about what was best for Jarryd (and for the 200th time....I understand his wishes and genuinely wish him well in the NFL). But, given that he was in the process of getting out of an existing obligation, I believe it was incumbent upon him to try to do so in such a fashion as to cause the least disadvantage to the other party (i.e. the club). Deciding that he's going now made it much harder to plan for replacement in the 2015 squad.......that's it...nothing else.

If we were simply talking about the expiration of a contract....I'd largely agree with you. But we aren't, the club was bound to honour its contract to JH for 2015, so they can't sign a replacement(s) in the anticipation that he might decide his going elsewhere.

Nothing in any my posts refers in the slightest to any of the comments that JH has made since announcing his leaving, or any of the media circus stuff (I challenge you to find one instance). I don't care about that at all....just one issue....if you are going to seek a release from a contractual obligation...the onus is on you to try to minimise the damage to the other party. Call me old school if you like.

And again....I've never said i had any problem with him leaving other than the timing of the decision (i.e. when the club knew he was going.....until that point that can't do anything).
 
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Sujskiez

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By timing I mean when he told the club that he definitely won't be here in 2015. I'm not talking about what was best for Jarryd (and for the 200th time....I understand his wishes and genuinely wish him well in the NFL). But, given that he was in the process of getting out of an existing obligation, I believe it was incumbent upon him to try to do so in such a fashion as to cause the least disadvantage to the other party (i.e. the club). Deciding that he's going now made it much harder to plan for replacement in the 2015 squad.......that's it...nothing else.

If we were simply talking about the expiration of a contract....I'd largely agree with you. But we aren't, the club was bound to honour its contract to JH for 2015, so they can't sign a replacement(s) in the anticipation that he might decide his going elsewhere.

Nothing in any my posts refers in the slightest to any of the comments that JH has made since announcing his leaving, or any of the media circus stuff (I challenge you to find one instance). I don't care about that at all....just one issue....if you are going to seek a release from a contractual obligation...the onus is on you to try to minimise the damage to the other party. Call me old school if you like.

And again....I've never said i had any problem with him leaving other than the timing of the decision (i.e. when the club knew he was going.....until that point that can't do anything).

But the thing is he made this decision on the last minute when he was in the Kangaroos training camp, if he made the decision early on in the year you would not have seen hayne playing much in the season as arthur needed to test the replacement meaning giving hayne less game time and arthur would not have taken the chance especially when eels had a chance to top 8. With the end of the season arthur can now focus on the replacment giving him more game time and when trials come test out the new recruitment to see if he's good enough and whether a fullback need to be brought(referring to barba or boyd) or if he's alright stick with him and focus on buying a half
 

Jodeci

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But the thing is he made this decision on the last minute when he was in the Kangaroos training camp, if he made the decision early on in the year you would not have seen hayne playing much in the season as arthur needed to test the replacement meaning giving hayne less game time and arthur would not have taken the chance especially when eels had a chance to top 8. With the end of the season arthur can now focus on the replacment giving him more game time and when trials come test out the new recruitment to see if he's good enough and whether a fullback need to be brought(referring to barba or boyd) or if he's alright stick with him and focus on buying a half

Let's rest our best player from the last last 6 years cause he is going somewhere else.

:crazy:
 

El Diablo

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Exactly the point i am referring to hayne's timing could not be perfect

yes it could

if he had informed the club early in the season then the coach would have had a look at the player market

anyone decent has been signed up by now
 

Sujskiez

Juniors
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yes it could

if he had informed the club early in the season then the coach would have had a look at the player market

anyone decent has been signed up by now

So tell me which decent player was on market at the beginning that arthur could have picked up?? Plus he could still sign a decent player by now
 

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