gronkathon
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Oh and FTR even though I am willing to discuss the cap in seperate light I find the thread title utterly incorrect
As I said, NRL would be responsible for the Top up payments. So Souths could keep that young talent who became a star player and so could the NRL.
Like I've said it needs work but I'd like to see a workable alternative. I still haven't.
Oh and FTR even though I am willing to discuss the cap in seperate light I find the thread title utterly incorrect
Any genuine rugby league fan should feel sympathy for the Storm. When I say the Storm I am referring to the players and officials that have been responsible for developing this team into the best in the league over the last few seasons.
The conversations in the media, forums and around the water cooler in the past week have focused on the fact that the storm are cheats. Lets make one thing clear. The cheats are the small number of individuals who went to extraordinary lengths to rort the system. Assuming the players and staff knew nothing then we should not and cannot tarnish them with the same brush.
The fact is that the Melbourne Storm have developed and nurtured young talent better than any other club in the last 10 years. You only have to look at Folau, Inglis, Smith and so on to see a group of players who left the comfort of home to start their careers as teenagers in a foreign land dominated by AFL. You then need to look at how successful they have become as a result of how well the Storm is run.
As a Manly fan I should have every right to say that we were ripped off in 2007. Parramatta fans probably feel the same.
As a fan of the game however I believe that the deficiencies in the game have rorted the Melbourne Storm.
The problem is that the words salary cap and loyalty will never fit in the same sentence. How can any club ever hope to find, nurture and grow talent under the current salary cap arrangements when they are forced to let them go as soon as they become stars? What culture does this breed?
I believe the events of the past week have been a blessing in disguise. Harsh yes, but they have highlighted the major deficiencies of the salary cap.
The game will only survive if young talent continues to be discovered. We all talk about how important loyalty is but unfortunately these days all but a few players are through no fault of their own. The cap forbids it.
Weve heard a million solutions to the problem but one such solution that is crystal clear is that major concessions to the cap need to be made to encourage loyalty and that requires the NRL to put their money where their mouth is. I believe if a club has developed a player from a young age then they should be given every concession to keep them. THe NRL generates over $100m every year from the game so surely there is room do do so.
Lets save our anger for a few wrong doing individuals but lets praise the Storm for how well they have demonstrated player development. I may 'hate' the Storm when they play Manly but I can only admire them for what they have shown can be done for the game.
No...Cheat as they did to keep all their superstars, we lost the 2009 Grand Final fair and square (even though the Fui penalty on Slater was bullsh*t). Ditto you guys and your loss.
I don't understand this whole, "We were runners up, they cheated - ergo we are rightfully the champs now" mentality. Your team and my team didn't win on the day. Simple.
Is everyone sick of these players leaving?
Or is everyone sick of these people using the game of League to whore themselves out to the highest bidding code?
Take the cap issue out of the picture
What I had hoped to point out (and yes the title should have been worded better) was that the Storm as a club has been coached and managed better than any other club in recent times. Take the cap issue out of the picture and I'm sure most people would agree. I also believe 100% that the current cap instigated this whole affair as with previous breaches by other clubs. (again, reinforcing that I do agree that it was blatantly wrong).
I said that I believed the NRL had cheated the Storm. I won't back down from that claim. I add that I believe the NRL has cheated EVERY CLUB by introducing a system that will never work, has been abused previously and will probably be abused again.
Let me stress to you all that I know that Waldron and Co are cheating scum. What I also know is that the salary cap was breached and the consequences, although harsh were probably deserved.
What I had hoped to point out (and yes the title should have been worded better) was that the Storm as a club has been coached and managed better than any other club in recent times. Take the cap issue out of the picture and I'm sure most people would agree. I also believe 100% that the current cap instigated this whole affair as with previous breaches by other clubs. (again, reinforcing that I do agree that it was blatantly wrong).
I said that I believed the NRL had cheated the Storm. I won't back down from that claim. I add that I believe the NRL has cheated EVERY CLUB by introducing a system that will never work, has been abused previously and will probably be abused again.
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No but I do know him. Lets leave it at that.
Love him or hate him he is passionate about his beliefs. I dont agree with all of them though!
Is everyone sick of these players leaving?
Or is everyone sick of these people using the game of League to whore themselves out to the highest bidding code?
if the storm won the grand final fair and square the nrl wouldnt have stripped them of the premiership (by the way, why do they still have the trophy?) my take on it is after removing the storm the parramatta eels were the last legal team to play in the 2009 premiership so the title should pass to them but i can understand the players not wanting to be just handed the trophyNo...Cheat as they did to keep all their superstars, we lost the 2009 Grand Final fair and square (even though the Fui penalty on Slater was bullsh*t). Ditto you guys and your loss.
I don't understand this whole, "We were runners up, they cheated - ergo we are rightfully the champs now" mentality. Your team and my team didn't win on the day. Simple.
Manly, the club has publicly declared the opposite to that.
And I cant see where Crusher has said that either.
if the storm won the grand final fair and square the nrl wouldnt have stripped them of the premiership (by the way, why do they still have the trophy?) my take on it is after the storm were disqualified the parramatta eels were the last legal team to play in the 2009 premiership so the title should pass to them but i can understand the players not wanting to be just handed the trophy