Is Chairman Spagnolo now a confirmed liar?

[Casper The Ghost]

What's the real estate prices Utopia like these days?

Ask 3P, they see the Eels as just a multi-million $$$$$$ business... To pirates that's Utopia!!!!!!!!

 

[cv8z]

I don't agree with what your saying but you have every right to that opinion, I'm not here to argue.

The only thing I can't help but reply to is the bold. You cannot tell me Kearney has been taught and brought up well as a coach. I don't care what you say, the fact is Melbourne Storm cheated and all the glory and premierships they won, were won due to cheating. Bellamy IMO cannot coach as he has showed us in SOO. As soon as he had a side that wasn't full of superstars he buckled. They won more then they lost yes, but who wouldn't with a side like theirs. Ok, he won the WC but that was with the help of Bennett. He hasn't proven anything to me yet. I hope when he does come he proves me wrong and if he does I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But ATM it seems like he isn't fully ready for a FG gig.

I thought SOO was the pinnacle of the game?
Best of the Best!
You saying NSW picked less than superstars?

 

[strider]

eh?

I don't know but in the corporate world, I know lots of people who were hired for a particular job title/position and was moved to another role due to a RESTRUCTURE.

all depends what's in the contract - if it states a specific role then I believe there is grounds to call it a breach

plus I think companies can use the dodgy "restructure" grounds for some things .... but they'd have to prove a real restructure .... in this case we'd have to probably get rid of the NRL team to claim a restructure :lol:

 

[cv8z]

Ask 3P, they see the Eels as just a multi-million $$$$$$ business... To pirates that's Utopia!!!!!!!!

When was the last time you asked a board member anything?

 

[Djay]

I thought SOO was the pinnacle of the game?
Best of the Best!
You saying NSW picked less than superstars?

The team is far from superstars...

Let's look at the spine for example.

1.Gidley/ Hayne (Hayne is a star, not Gidley)

6.Barrett
7. Kimmorley/Pearce

9. Ennis

None of these players are stars except for Hayne and TBH there are better players around to pick IMO, Farrah should be there instead of Ennis, Carney for Barrett and I'd be happy with Pearce and Hayne should have been fullback from game 1.

I'm not getting in a argument with you over SOO, but because the team he had for SOO wasn't full of superstars like the big 4 of Melbourne he couldn't coach them. He buckled simple as that. He is not a good coach IMO.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

When was the last time you asked a board member anything?

After accusations about shonky dealings came out in the press (Rebeca Wilson, etc Daily Telegraph) about Roy, I had a discussion with Roy about this last year. I knew then things did not "feel" right but wasn't sure with who. So I waited for the fruits to ripen because then this will reveal the farmer who planted the seeds in his/her soil. If the fruits are rotten or if they are sweet and pure would tell me everything about the farmer.

 

[CrazyEel]

When was the last time you asked a board member anything?

I'd like to know when he last visited earth?

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I'd like to know when he last visited earth?

Do you know the difference between a con-struct that is fiction (fairytale) and substance that is nature (reality)?????

 

[strider]

After accusations about shonky dealings came out in the press (Rebeca Wilson, etc Daily Telegraph) about Roy, I had a discussion with Roy about this last year. I knew then things did not "feel" right but wasn't sure with who. So I waited for the fruits to ripen because then this will reveal the farmer who planted the seeds in his/her soil. If the fruits are rotten or if they are sweet and pure would tell me everything about the farmer.

i'm pretty sure he accusations were in the SMH from Magnay

 

[born an eel]

eel4life, spot on , this forum is seriously infect3ed by forumoites who don't go to games, don't talk to people at the club and think that the club was successful under a previous one man rule.

Thanks for putting it so well, roy and others, and ossie are good people with the clubs best interest at heart who do not deserve the tripe that is served up on here about them personally.

21-11-2008, 10:02 am

i will say again, this is really personal, since bs was coach the board and the ceo have had little to do with the football operations, they ensure the funding is available and that is their role.

All football things from recruitment, retention, team selection and salaries were under the control of the head coach and manager, football operations, similar to the structure at most other clubs. The fact that df tends to be a bot of a headline lover is his main fault, but results should be laid at the feet of the coach, if there was a major issue it was the extrension of bs contract and the recruitment of hagan, having said that df is his own worst enemy.

I have no history with df, we don't really get on as the sth meeting would confirm, but he is not always the devil he is being painted as by the telecrap, we don't need this diversion with a new coach and a new season about to hit us. I would like to see support for the new coach to be a focus rather than all this agenda driven rubbish from the media mafia.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

i'm pretty sure he accusations were in the SMH from Magnay

If that is true, I stand corrected. Thank You.

 

[strider]

Rebecca Wilson wouldn't know her own feet if she fell over them - you wouldn't want to be relying on her for support of your arguement :lol:

 

[Haynzy]

So you are validating insincerity as acceptable and normal behaviour??? How many marriages and partnerships have been destroyed due to insincerity Jodeci????

Would you enjoy being married to someone who is insincere, who plays on words so you never really know where you stand in the marriage....... well at first you thought you knew where you stood only to find out later you were led around the garden path?????

If you don't know where you stand with anyone close to you your brain is being messed with by spin-doctors (liars & deceivers also known as USERS).

I don't really get the analogy Casper... In a marriage/partnership your dealings are with a primary source, ie partner. In this situation the majority of us are dealing with secondary sources, ie newspapers, radio, internet forums. Even when info passed on is a quote, newspapers and the like twist the message.
There may be insincerity from the board et al, but there is most likely, in my opinion, more from the media and the people on here that take any little skerrick of rumour, insuation and innuendo as gospel and then form elaborate arguments based solely on that 'information'.
The people with the loudest voices, the most vitriolic attacks and the most childish behaviour seem to fall into the latter category as masters of misinformation.

 

[hineyrulz]

Gee you know you are in trouble when you are using Chewbecca to help you win an arguement :lol: Who's next Weedler????

 

[eel4life]

I don't agree with what your saying but you have every right to that opinion, I'm not here to argue.

The only thing I can't help but reply to is the bold. You cannot tell me Kearney has been taught and brought up well as a coach. I don't care what you say, the fact is Melbourne Storm cheated and all the glory and premierships they won, were won due to cheating. Bellamy IMO cannot coach as he has showed us in SOO. As soon as he had a side that wasn't full of superstars he buckled. They won more then they lost yes, but who wouldn't with a side like theirs. Ok, he won the WC but that was with the help of Bennett. He hasn't proven anything to me yet. I hope when he does come he proves me wrong and if he does I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But ATM it seems like he isn't fully ready for a FG gig.

yeah that's cool i can see where you are coming from and you are correct in saying that.

I believe he can improve our squad like i think he can then we will def be making the 8.

 

[lingard]

there are 2 parts to this equation i think we can all agree 2010 was a dismal letdown across the board and changes had to be made if the board think a new coach can improve things so be it but the way it was handled was unprofessional to say the least, to go out shopping for a new coach behind ando's back apart from a slap in the face to him personally is a massive blow to team morale, then he gets fired by email ffs

It sounds bad when you put it like that; but consider this:

1. what if they had sacked him and didn`t have another option already lined up? That would have been very unprofessional.
2. It seems that they had decided for a number of different reasons - some of which we may find out in due course, and some of which we`ll never know - that they would not extend Anderson`s contract beyond next year. So if they make that public, then we would be in the position we were in when Brian Smith was in his last year - with Hagan waiting in the wings to take over.
I think this is the only way they could have done it really. Also - according to Osborne - he tried to contact Anderson by phone but wasn`t able to. Hence the e-mail. He also said that Anderson was expecting to be sacked, so there must have been previous correspondence - not just an e-mail saying: "Hi, Daniel, sorry mate but we`ve sacked you". The other thing is: we don`t know where all the leaks are coming from. Some of them may be from Anderson, himself.

 

[Djay]

yeah that's cool i can see where you are coming from and you are correct in saying that.

I believe he can improve our squad like i think he can then we will def be making the 8.

I honestly hope I'm wrong and he proves me wrong then we will all be happy.

 

[Gronk]

It sounds bad when you put it like that; but consider this:

1. what if they had sacked him and didn`t have another option already lined up? That would have been very unprofessional.
2. It seems that they had decided for a number of different reasons - some of which we may find out in due course, and some of which we`ll never know - that they would not extend Anderson`s contract beyond next year. So if they make that public, then we would be in the position we were in when Brian Smith was in his last year with Hagan waiting in the wings to take over.
I think this is the only way they could have done it really. Also - accordingto Osborne - he tried to contact Anderson by phone but wasn`t able to. Hence the e-mail. He also said that Anderson was expecting to be sacked, so there must have been previous correspondence - not just an e-mail saying: "Hi, Daniel, sorry mate but we`ve sacked you". The other thing is: we don`t know where all the leaks are coming from. Some of them may be from Anderson, himself.

Sorry but if you can't find him on the phone, you wait an hour for him to call you back. Sacking by email is not on. TBH even sacking by phone is gutless. If you are big enough to take a CEO's pay packet, you're big enough to deal with this type of thing face to face.

 

[lingard]

I don't really get the analogy Casper... In a marriage/partnership your dealings are with a primary source, ie partner. In this situation the majority of us are dealing with secondary sources, ie newspapers, radio, internet forums. Even when info passed on is a quote, newspapers and the like twist the message.
There may be insincerity from the board et al, but there is most likely, in my opinion, more from the media and the people on here that take any little skerrick of rumour, insuation and innuendo as gospel and then form elaborate arguments based solely on that 'information'.
The people with the loudest voices, the most vitriolic attacks and the most childish behaviour seem to fall into the latter category as masters of misinformation.

Yep. That about sums it up, doesn`t? Well said.

 

[lingard]

Sorry but if you can't find him on the phone, you wait an hour for him to call you back. Sacking by email is not on. TBH even sacking by phone is gutless. If you are big enough to take a CEO's pay packet, you're big enough to deal with this type of thing face to face.

Look, I agree with you. If it just came out of the blue. If Anderson was not expecting it and suddenly got an e-mail saying: "you`re sacked", then that would be outrageous. And gutless. And totally unacceptable. BUT Osborne said that Anderson was expecting it. That implies that there had been dialogue between Anderson and Osborne already. But it sounds far more dramatic for the papers to say that Anderson was informed of his sacking 'by e-mail'. Bottom line is: WE DON`T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.