Jake Arthur

[hindy111]

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. None of them stay for unders. Some of them are on unders for a year or two early in their careers, but by the time they've played a season of NRL the minimum they'll sign/re-sign for is market value. Likewise for a young first grader before he becomes a superstar - Dylan Brown (for example) might be on $600k this year but by the end of the season could be worth a million or more. He'd be on unders until he signs his next contract. However desperate clubs offer everyone overs, and for elite players this can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meanwhile overs for solid first graders like Napa, Tetevano and Curtis Scott might've been less than $100k. This might seem like semantics but the point is that the top players are offered a lot more than an extra $50k to sign elsewhere. Addo-Carr is probably getting an extra $300k/year to leave Melbourne for the lowly Dogs. Guys like Fifita and Cotric would be getting similar upgrades to leave their junior clubs. They're not turning down that sort of money.

That just backs what I am saying. Trying to get an elite player from other clubs generaly means paying overs and a lot more......

 

[hindy111]

You are massively overrating them. I’ll give you Fisher Harris, Chinry and maybe To’o as being above average but none are nor will be elite. Luai might be but he also might not be. Everyone is creaming themselves over Staines after one game. So far to me he’s Jordan Atkins 2.0.
The rest are average. They did well last year because they’ve filled their team with a lot of average players who had all played lower grades together.

Yeo,Crighton are origin quality.... I'll bet you Spencer will be one of the better props on game in 2 yrs.

 

[hindy111]

Anyhows. I am more excited about the prospect of Russel and Penisini then Dunster. I still don't mind Haze. Happy to see more of him over Sivo.

 

[chiefy1]

Everyone is creaming themselves over Staines [/QUOTE]

I see what you did there lol..

 

[84 Baby]

Yeo,Crighton are origin quality.... I'll bet you Spencer will be one of the better props on game in 2 yrs.

Plenty of average players play origin

 

[hindy111]

Plenty of average players play origin

Well Jason Moody played origin so I agree.

Anyhows I feel pur jnr production has been quite good of late. More due to the ones we are producing. They've been a step above average imo. I think Kafusi will be much more then a plodder like Alvaro who is average. Could be very good.

 

[T-Boon]

what we need is for Dylan Brown to be developing some kind of elite passing game during this off season and improving his speed. If he does then we have an elite player who will make the outside backs better. He is a very good runner and tackler.
All this garbage about Joey being a good halves coach is going on the line this season.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yeo,Crighton are origin quality.... I'll bet you Spencer will be one of the better props on game in 2 yrs.

lol Yeo is an above average first grader at best. If Penrith had an average season he would of been nowhere near an Origin jersey like Brown and Guth.

 

[Cloeel]

what we need is for Dylan Brown to be developing some kind of elite passing game during this off season and improving his speed. If he does then we have an elite player who will make the outside backs better. He is a very good runner and tackler.
All this garbage about Joey being a good halves coach is going on the line this season.

From what I have seen (could be wrong) Dylan Brown doesn't seem to have that killer instinct... Maybe it's just because he is young? Seems very Blasé.

DB has all the skills in the world which will only further develop as he progresses. The killer instinct is kind of something you either have or you don't.

Not trying to say we need every player to be like that, it would just be awesome if our most talented prospect currently, had tunnel vision.

 

[hindy111]

lol Yeo is an above average first grader at best. If Penrith had an average season he would of been nowhere near an Origin jersey like Brown and Guth.

All these three mentioned are above average NRL players.
Average NRL player are guys who demand 300k contracts. Think Tim Mannah.

 

[hindy111]

what we need is for Dylan Brown to be developing some kind of elite passing game during this off season and improving his speed. If he does then we have an elite player who will make the outside backs better. He is a very good runner and tackler.
All this garbage about Joey being a good halves coach is going on the line this season.

I see the same. I do not see him throwing cut out passes like Gutherson. He just runs and steps inside most the time. Short kicking games is solid.

To his defense he has not had a good run in the nrl. Missed a lot of games in his first season and last year had an injury leading into finals. I feel like he may have a very big year. Sometimes young halves just burst out.

 

[Gronk]

I’m sure the @TheRam would love to back you up.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I know this. I am talking about unders and overs. Your squad players on 130k will no have a large earning capacity and have a limited span in NRL. A contract isn't gaurantees. If they stayed on unders it would be a minimal amount. Maybe 10 or 15k.
In other words you can pick them up from anywhere.

But an elite player who might demand 900k would potentially talk stay for 800k. These guys have 10-14yr careers and are going to make plenty of money regardless.

You will pay more for a fringe first grader or an average first grader than you would to keep one at your own. Given that these form the majority of your squad I suspect it will have a much higher collective impact on your cap than the overs from one or two superstars.

Don’t believe me then go back and have a look at where we were 5-10 years ago.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I see what you did there lol..

Shame that no-one else can now that you’ve f**ked up the quote.

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

If Jake is a future superstar, then I guess it was worth putting up with his dad and his dopyness......

But somehow I don't think he will.

 

[hineyrulz]

FFS Queefly!!!

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

All these three mentioned are above average NRL players.
Average NRL player are guys who demand 300k contracts. Think Tim Mannah.

Tim play Origin too.

 

[Gary Gutful]

If Jake is a future superstar, then I guess it was worth putting up with his dad and his dopyness......

But somehow I don't think he will.

They need to teach him how to make 60 flops and run for 13 metres every game.

 

[84 Baby]

Well Jason Moody played origin so I agree.

Anyhows I feel pur jnr production has been quite good of late. More due to the ones we are producing. They've been a step above average imo. I think Kafusi will be much more then a plodder like Alvaro who is average. Could be very good.

Good that you’re all flustered over their average juniors

 

[hindy111]

You will pay more for a fringe first grader or an average first grader than you would to keep one at your own. Given that these form the majority of your squad I suspect it will have a much higher collective impact on your cap than the overs from one or two superstars.

Don’t believe me then go back and have a look at where we were 5-10 years ago.

Ever seen the movie clueless?