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Jarryd Hayne

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Read this on another forum. Sums up Hayne's performance pretty well.

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Hayne's first up performance on the weekend only reinforces what I thought at the beginning of his journey. He's best shot of making the team and being consistently effective is still as a kick/punt returner.

The stars aligned for Hayne on that 50+yd rush in that he was able to display all the attributes that have made him one of the best athletes in Oz. In only his second competitive snap, he was fortunate to get a play where Bruce Miller was able to steamroll the shit out of two defenders who were otherwise in Hayne's path, and from there Jarryd could exhibit all the elements of his ability by hitting the hole which must have resembled the Sydney heads to him.

The onus in American football defence of limiting yardage allowed Hayne to easily use his step to evade the safety who took a direct line to him. In rugby league, cover defenders are taught to stop the try and would have taken a line to make Hayne continue wide. It would give up territory but put the defender in a better position to save a try. Instead, with limiting the yardage gain the primary defensive objective of American football, the safety instinctively had little thought of covering the field and just made a bee-line to him. Advantage Hayne. It opened up the inside of the field so he could use his step and easily evade the cover defender. The fend on a jumper grabbing defender to steal another 10 yds before running out of bounds was a rugby league & Hayne beauty too. League defenders would have gone low there.

There's no doubt that Hayne can find a hole and make players miss. I've had great joy in watching him exploit this talent in rugby league his whole career......with no blockers! But what was more telling than that big play was the 4 other carries where frankly, he looked slow, uncertain, and still runs way too upright. If anything, he generally looked like a fullback than a tailback. It's quite the skill and takes a lot of hip, knee and ankle mobility to be able to run in the low position of an RB. What he showed is that he is able to ekk out a few yards with his strength rather than be a real threat between the tackles with his agility. However, once through a hole or in space outside the offensive tackles, he'll show his excellent attributes. Open-field play. This is where he can use his natural running style and athletic ability to shine which that big play and a couple of returns showed.
 

Parra

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Best comment from the niners board so far:

"The Seahawks will figure out a way to injure him."
 

big hit!

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Best comment from the niners board so far:

"The Seahawks will figure out a way to injure him."

Let's see how he goes in the next 3 games and whether or not he makes the cut before deciding whether the Seahawks will get to him.

Hayne will be reluctant to call a fair catch or take a knee on returns in these games too as it won't show what he can do. Got away with it and showed the farkin great footwork we all know in his kick return against Houston. A split second later though and he could've been smashed on the catch.

Laid off a couple of good fends on the weekend, or as the yanks call them, 'stiff-arms'. Only the out of bounds prevented him from getting more yards off those fends. It's on these returns where he'll show how good he is. Apart from the fortune of getting in on a well-designed play and effective blocking from his FB and o-line against Houston, he's general play as a tailback was fairly lack lustre. Bush and Hyde easily ahead, and battling with draft pick Hunter for the 3rd RB spot........and teams generally sign their draft picks. They don't like admitting they fuxked up with a selection by not signing them.
 
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kurt faulk

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Hunter has been with the team for 3 years I think. Davis is the draft pick. And hayne looked better than him.

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big hit!

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Hunter has been with the team for 3 years I think. Davis is the draft pick. And hayne looked better than him.

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Shit, that's right. There's 4 of them + Hayne.....3 established plus a draft selection which teams will generally sign.

The numbers say he got 63 yds from 5 rushes, and one of them was a big play, but that's ignoring what impact he had on the bulk of these carries......not much.

If I'm a niners coach, it's not the numbers but what he did in this plays. In open field after hitting the hole in the 53yd play and in his returns are significant.

In open-field one on one or one on two, he'll be a beast. If he can continue to impress as a specialist returner and show that his skills are worth the roster position here, he can then be wheeled out for some plays in the backfield and be a viable option on screen plays or short hook routes and use his acceleration, step and fend to make yards against isolated defenders. It's basically what made him such a threat in rugby league. He won't be so fortunate to get blockers succeeding like that big play on a regular basis, and running into traffic at the line of scrimmage won't be his strength. He wouldn't be a power back.
 

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I thought this was an interesting little tidbit from NFL.COM's Bucky Brooks.

He ranked the best NFC players in week 1 of the preseason.

Hayne got the nod for the 49ers.

San Francisco 49ers: Jarryd Hayne, RB
GRADE: B-


Strengths: It is uncommon for a rugby player to transition to the NFL at a skill position, but Hayne is quickly acclimating to the pro game as a runner. He exhibits solid instincts and awareness with the ball in his hands, showcasing a nice feel for finding creases in the middle of the defense. As a kick returner, he is patient attacking the seam but shows the burst and physicality needed to churn out 30-yard gains.

Weaknesses: Hayne is a bit of a straight-line runner with limited wiggle in the open field. He stays on his tracks and rarely deviates from his assigned route. While some coaches appreciate a one-cut runner with patience, Hayne needs to show more creativity to be a successful runner as a pro.

What he needs to work on: Hayne certainly caught the attention of coaches and scouts with his 53-yard run against the Texans on Saturday, but he will need to show evaluators that he can elude and evade defenders in traffic. The 49ers feature a power-based running game that primarily operates between the tackles. Thus, Hayne will need to exhibit the toughness, physicality and wiggle to consistently produce positive gains when he is the feature back on the field.

From: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-player-grades-week-1-ameer-abdullah-dazzles
 

DC_fan

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49ers special teams coach Thomas McGaughey talks Jarryd Hayne

RB Jarryd Hayne had a nice, I guess, 33-yard kick return, but he caught it seven yards deep in the end zone. Were you thinking that he might kneel it down there or were you happy that he took it back?

"We've got to find out what we have and if we take a knee we'll never find out. Most balls that you get in the preseason are going to be kicked seven, eight, nine, ten deep. So, we're going to bring it out and that's just kind of how we operate in the preseason."


Did you see, you know, he's running up the sideline on that play. When you were doing research on him, did you see him make that type of play in Australia for what he did in Rugby League as a fullback?

"I saw his tape just like everybody else. You see the open-field run skills and you have a tendency, you know, those guys when they get in the open field they like to break things back. And in this league, you break things back or back across the field, if you don't run 4.3 or 4.2, you're going to get run down. But, the key is to get vertical, and that's what I'm trying to impress upon him now. Just his skills of running in the open field, it's a little bit different than rugby football."


How much of what he accomplished as a returner was instinctual and how much of that was just getting coached up in the offseason and through training camp?

"Being a returner, there's a lot of instincts involved. What he did the other night was more instinctual than it was anything that I did as a coach or [assistant special teams coach] coach [Richard] Hightower. It was more just a reaction to what happened during the course of the game. It was actually a kick that was kicked opposite of what we called and he just, he brought the wedge up the sideline and he just made a cut and kind of did his thing. So, he has a lot of natural ability, but let's, you know, you've to be realistic too here. I mean, that was the first preseason game, so it's like we're playing in Week 8, going down the stretch. He's got a long way to go. He's doing some good things and hopefully he'll continue down that path."


I have at least one more Jarryd Hayne question, but it seems like he's a guy that may not be that interested in calling for a fair catch.

"That's a good assessment."


Do you like that as a coach?

"Well, you know, you obviously want to make smart decisions, but Jarryd is fearless. That's one of the characteristics that it takes to be a great punt returner. He is fearless. It's fun when you see a guy that can make that first guy miss and he's not scared because he's very, very comfortable fielding the ball and when you have that fearlessness it definitely gives you an edge on your opponent."


Did you feel like this could open the way for more Rugby League players from our country to possibly come over and have a go?

"If they can play like Jarryd, they might have a shot. But, I don't know how many Jarryd Hayne's are over there in that rugby league but if there are, they might want to think about coming over."


Could he or has he played on coverage at all?

"He's played a little bit. That's still a work in progress for him. It's a little different. I think he's used to having that ball in his hands and that's real natural for him, being able to make people miss and run by people and being physical with people. The tackling part of it, it's different when it's one-on-one like it is over there. Most of the tackles you have are just one-on-one, open-field tackles as opposed to a group of guys dropping back in an area and all of a sudden they're coming from all kinds of different angles and you got to know what you're looking at and you got to know to how to key and diagnose certain situations. So, right now he's just trying to learn that part of it as far as covering kickoffs. But like I said, it's just a work in progress. He has the talent to do it, it's just he's got to learn how to do it."


How do you see a guy, he seems to run relatively upright but yet in the limited times we've seen it he always makes the first person miss. How is he able to do that?

"Well, he has great lateral quickness and that's another characteristic of a great open-field runner. If you look at all of the great open field runners, they all have that characteristic. You look at [former NFL WR/KR] Dante Hall, [Atlanta Falcons WR/KR] Devin Hester, those types of runners, guys that can make people miss, [Philadelphia Eagles RB] Darren Sproles, they've got great lateral quickness and Jarryd possesses great lateral quickness."


How do you feel about the rugby traits he's brought across like the stiff arm and the side step and that sort of stuff?

"Well, it's kind of, it's a carryover to our game. I mean, the stiff arm, the side step, that's kind of the same skillset. It's kind of why he's here, there's a lot of carryover. It's like him in the open field out there playing rugby. I mean, it's the same thing. Your guy's coming, you've got the stiff arm, he can stick his foot in the ground, make a guy miss, it's no different than our game."

If he continues to excel as a returner, but still developing other parts of his game, could there be a roster spot just for that position?

"I couldn't answer that question for you. All that stuff goes through [general manager] Trent [Baalke] and [head coach] Jim [Tomsula], but he's a talented guy. Obviously, you want to have talented guys on your roster so we'll see how it all shakes out. He's a joy to coach. He's just a hard-working guy. The natural skillset is definitely there."How do you feel about the rugby traits he's brought across like the stiff arm and the side step and that sort of stuff?


http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/8/...anscript?_ga=1.190995754.101961243.1440215323
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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HAHAH. What a flipping player.

That is two awesome returns in the one game.

Spewing I do not know how to stream Game Pass onto my TV. Massive 70inch looking at me whilst I use a Samsung Tab 10.1
 
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