Jarryd Hayne's payment trail leads to former Parramatta Eels boss Roy Spagnolo's Abdu

[Gronk]

IF he kept them off the books, how are they able to produce a media article following the money trail ?

Because player managers are squealing cos their clients are not getting paid. Kate said Spags did these deals on hand shakes. No paperwork whatsoever.

 

[not graham olling]

So Kate McClymont basically talked about Spags had introduced 3rd party payments but kept them off the books.

He then channel these payments through this Abdullah company and used the cash in his own property development deals.

Why keep them off the books ? So Roy can get hand hands on the money I assume.

Kate also said that she has another exposé going to print in a few days about another club.

Which club? Broncos? Storm? Cowboys? Bunnies? Or Doggies?

 

[Jake the snake]

So Kate McClymont basically talked about Spags had introduced 3rd party payments but kept them off the books.

He then channel these payments through this Abdullah company and used the cash in his own property development deals.

Why keep them off the books ? So Roy can get hand hands on the money I assume.

Kate also said that she has another exposé going to print in a few days about another club.

Those journalists you can't believe them!! They've got in for our club.

 

[Jake the snake]

So you're just gonna hang on till the bitter end aren't you Jake?

Part of me wants to believe that entire post was just for comedic value, but I really think that you meant every word of it.

If you aren't Spags himself, you must either be related to him or on his payroll.

Yes I'm serious :lol:

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Is there actually anything against NRL salary cap rules in what has been alleged to have happened in the articles above?

I presume this is how non-registered third party agreements actually work, or am I missing something?

Not exactly sure how TPA works but the issue I see is companies associated with Roy were involved in the payments. Roy was chairman, so the payments weren't independent payments thus they should have been included in our cap. It could be said that it seems like a plan to rort the cap.

For example if Nick had one of his companies give an extra $x dollars a year to a roosters players. This would be seen to be cheating the cap.

 

[Jake the snake]

Jake, you really need to observe what the article is saying

I just listened to Kate McClymont, she said that she feels for the current board trying to sort out the mess left by Spagnolo et al. Like most people, I believed Spags would bring some experince like those at other clubs given his so called connections, oh well hat a disaster that was

Looks like the plumber is having to clean out the drains and sewers, the NRL should look at this situation and see that the current board has come to power to fix it, guess your dislike of the plumber will never see that

Delboy, surely you know I was joking. Surely?! I'm not that good am I ?

 

[Jake the snake]

Not exactly sure how TPA works but the issue I see is companies associated with Roy were involved in the payments. Roy was chairman, so the payments weren't independent payments thus they should have been included in our cap. It could be said that it seems like a plan to rort the cap.

For example if Nick had one of his companies give an extra $x dollars a year to a roosters players. This would be seen to be cheating the cap.

I think the NRL should strip us of our spoons.

 

[Gronk]

Is there actually anything against NRL salary cap rules in what has been alleged to have happened in the articles above?

I presume this is how non-registered third party agreements actually work, or am I missing something?

There is no such thing as non-registered TPAs from what I understand.

What players can earn outside the salary cap:

$600,000 - Marquee Player Allowance - any or all of the Top 25 players at each club can share in payments made by club sponsors seeking to use a player's intellectual property. These may be guaranteed in the playing contract by clubs.

$100,000 - Motor Vehicle Allowance ? a maximum amount of five motor vehicles may be provided to players in the Top 25 outside of the salary cap. (Valued at $20,000 each).

Unlimited - Players can earn unlimited amounts from corporate sponsors who are not associated with the club and who do not use the game's intellectual property (no club logos, jerseys or emblems) provided these are pre-approved. These agreements may not be negotiated by the club as an incentive for a player to sign a contract, nor can they be guaranteed by the club.

Unlimited - Tertiary education fees, approved traineeships, medical insurance costs, relocation/temporary accommodation costs are not included in the cap but must be approved.
Payments for players outside Top 25

$440,000 - Cap for all players outside of the top 25 who compete in the Telstra Premiership.

http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I think the NRL should strip us of our spoons.

They can strip us of points for next year.

I reckon the NRL probably already knew about it.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

There is no such thing as non-registered TPAs from what I understand.

http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

So really it was a scam to cheat the cap. Or a really useless administration.

 

[Suitman]

I think the NRL should strip us of our spoons.

I seriously don't know how you can make light of this situation.

Suity

 

[Gronk]

I seriously don't know how you can make light of this situation.

Suity

Heckle and Jeckle's overuse of the :lol: emoticon when it comes to stories like this always make me wonder.

 

[forward pass]

So the only thing we have done wrong here is not to notify the NRL of these payments?

They are not from a sponsor so they are not TPA's. I know there are complete shonks involved in these and it is more murky than a sewer but it seems the notification of these payments is the only thing we have failed to do from what I can see.

 

[Mogsheen Jadwat]

you guys are the best, never change

 

[Joshuatheeel]

So the only thing we have done wrong here is not to notify the NRL of these payments?

They are not from a sponsor so they are not TPA's. I know there are complete shonks involved in these and it is more murky than a sewer but it seems the notification of these payments is the only thing we have failed to do from what I can see.

And the only thing the Storm did wrong was not inform the NRL.

It appears to be an attempt to cheat the cap

 

[Jake the snake]

I seriously don't know how you can make light of this situation.

Suity

Lighten up champ.

 

[Jake the snake]

Heckle and Jeckle's overuse of the :lol: emoticon when it comes to stories like this always make me wonder.

Can't you see it's the media's fault! Just as you've been saying the last two months.

 

[Delboy]

This has given Raaaay, the opportunity to smash the Eels, I am prepared to see how this current board handles the mess left, as a few others have stated - did the right thing to get rid of Fitzy, but fmd we were sold down the river by those who replaced thim

Certainly, financially we are OK, the lesson now is to right the ship and take it forward

Funny that the issues that are surfacing at the Beagles and Tigpies are not given anywhere near the same attention, oh well as before we know who gets the clicks

 

[Delboy]

just listened to Kate McClymont on 2 GB, she sympathised with the current board and said they were trying to sort out things they had no knowledge about, also stared that the next article would be about another club, Raay couldn't help himself and tried to find an angle to blame the people at Parra who are trying to sort the mess out, wasn't interested in tomorrows news

He never fails to deliver

 

[Joshuatheeel]

This has given Raaaay, the opportunity to smash the Eels, I am prepared to see how this current board handles the mess left, as a few others have stated - did the right thing to get rid of Fitzy, but fmd we were sold down the river by those who replaced thim

Certainly, financially we are OK, the lesson now is to right the ship and take it forward

Funny that the issues that are surfacing at the Beagles and Tigpies are not given anywhere near the same attention, oh well as before we know who gets the clicks

f**k ray. Don't listen to him. To agenda driven !!

Has he mentioned anything about his great mate Bozo? Imagine if the eels:

- signed a coach ( Barrett ) behind the back of the current coach?
- sacked a coach who is a club legend with a year still to go on his contract
- if we leaked the names of 14 players not required for next year, behind the back of the current coach and not yet inform the players?