Jesse Bromwich & Kevin Proctor allegedly purchase cocaine after last nights game.

[Stormwarrior82]

Why is that a shit thing to say? It is possible. Mave is pointing out that the lack of consistency and procedural fairness in the NRL's processes leaves it very open to exploitation.

And being "smart" or experienced doesn't help at all if someone makes allegations against you, until they are resolved. I've been through similar experiences, and if my work had been brought in to it I would have been "rested" indefinitely until I was cleared (which thankfully wasn't too long a period).

Everyone on here is crapping on about inconsistencies and unfairness from the nrl. Yes in the past (bstewart) 9 years ago. But if you all put away your club colours, the past couple years the nrl has been good. The Nrl should initially punish a player if it is a bad look for the game but hold there total judgment until charges have been laid or court decisions have been made. That is what the nrl is doing. No doubt Waiting to see if charges are going to be laid.

Too a point your right about being "smart" or "experienced" that is what the clubs are annoyed at is they have "bodyguards/minders" to stop that exact thing.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Maths is clearly not a strong point.


And?


Blind drunk? Not one police officer mentioned that Stewart was intoxicated in their reports.


So, the guy was not guilty of anything, apart from having a few drinks, and allegedly being drunk. Players get drunk every weekend. What exactly did he deserve even a 1 game suspension for? Even the allegation against him happened at his home. Not like it happened out at a night club.

Really chipping me on maths...? have I spelt things correctly as well?

He was apparently refused service at the manly function. I'm sure it wasn't because he was under age. Have you personally seen the polices report? He was the face of the game that year and being plastered across every paper just before round one isn't a good look. A week is more than fair. It happened outside his home in a unit complex. But don't let the truth get in the way of your manly love fest.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Kent nailed in on 360 tonight

The NRL is inconsistent, slow to react and sends out mixed signals on this issue.

If ASADA test them tonight they get 2 years ban - no arguments.
if NRL test them - they rarely test them for cocaine anyhow - they will, if a first offense, just get a warning and not even a public shaming.

Some might say the ASADA punishment is arguably too tough but for sure the NRL punishment system is a joke and has to be changed.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Kent is just nrl bashing as always. How are they inconsistent? Show me inconsistencies? The Nrl to my knowledge has never forced a player to be tested by asada. What a rediculous thing to do. Maybe drug/alcohol test media reporters. That might cull the dead wood.

Slow to react...? This instance yes but charges haven't been laid. The Nrl have been castraited before for moving fast and making mistakes. Not anymore.

What are the mixed signals? Please explain?

 

[Jerkwad2000]

Have you personally seen the polices report?

Personally? No. But I know someone who was actually in the courts whilst the case was going on. Numerous questions were asked about Bretts level of intoxication that night to various officers. None of them answered that in their belief he was anywhere near as intoxicated as the papers, especially the Daily Telegraph, made out. The same Daily Telegraph that also had to pay Brett damages based on the falsities in their stories.

He was the face of the game that year and being plastered across every paper just before round one isn't a good look. A week is more than fair.

He was plastered across the papers because a girl made an allegation that was shown, in court, to not be true. There was not, at the time, nor at any time since as the verdict showed, any justification for the action taken by the NRL. No video evidence as there allegedly is of these players taking a banned substance in cocaine.

It happened outside his home in a unit complex.

In a unit complex where he also lived. So, outside his home. You pretty much have to go through common areas in these complexes to get to your unit.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your manly love fest.

The truth is this. The NRL themselves set the bar in the Stewart case. 4 weeks. All 3 players who are alleged to have been caught with/taken cocaine should get no less of a punishment. Not 1 or 2 weeks.

But the NRL actually have a massive conflict of interest here. Proctor plays for a club that they effectively own and run. It is in the NRLs best interest to have the Titans have their best squad, to make it attractive to potential buyers to purchase the club. So suspending Proctor for a period of time goes against those interests.

 

[muzby]

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[Jerkwad2000]

Slow to react...? This instance yes but charges haven't been laid. The Nrl have been castraited before for moving fast and making mistakes. Not anymore.

Remind me again exactly what Mitchell Pearce did that broke any laws. The worst thing he did in that whole saga was try and kiss a girl that didn't want to be kissed. The NRL were pretty quick to come down on him, and pretty damn hard.

 

[Canard]

Personally? No. But I know someone who was actually in the courts whilst the case was going on. Numerous questions were asked about Bretts level of intoxication that night to various officers. None of them answered that in their belief he was anywhere near as intoxicated as the papers, especially the Daily Telegraph, made out. The same Daily Telegraph that also had to pay Brett damages based on the falsities in their stories.


He was plastered across the papers because a girl made an allegation that was shown, in court, to not be true. There was not, at the time, nor at any time since as the verdict showed, any justification for the action taken by the NRL. No video evidence as there allegedly is of these players taking a banned substance in cocaine.


In a unit complex where he also lived. So, outside his home. You pretty much have to go through common areas in these complexes to get to your unit.


The truth is this. The NRL themselves set the bar in the Stewart case. 4 weeks. All 3 players who are alleged to have been caught with/taken cocaine should get no less of a punishment. Not 1 or 2 weeks.

But the NRL actually have a massive conflict of interest here. Proctor plays for a club that they effectively own and run. It is in the NRLs best interest to have the Titans have their best squad, to make it attractive to potential buyers to purchase the club. So suspending Proctor for a period of time goes against those interests.

Thanks GW.

 

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Kent nailed in on 360 tonight

The NRL is inconsistent, slow to react and sends out mixed signals on this issue.

If ASADA test them tonight they get 2 years ban - no arguments.
if NRL test them - they rarely test them for cocaine anyhow - they will, if a first offense, just get a warning and not even a public shaming.

Some might say the ASADA punishment is arguably too tough but for sure the NRL punishment system is a joke and has to be changed.

If that's what Kent said he is wrong, again. Unless it's in their system match day ASADA doesn't care, it's the NRL's responsibility to sanction illicit drug use out of competition.

It's time the NRL put the game first, it doesn't exist to redeem players poor behaviour, they can redeem themselves getting a job elsewhere. I am not advocating zero tolerance, but I don't think it's unreasonable to permanently deregister any player who fails a drug test for the second time. Keogh has lost his job, and no one is crying for him, quite the contrary, people expect nothing less, nor would they in most high profile occupations.

It's reasonable to expect a fair degree of consistency around drug issues. But trying to compare other incidents, that are entirely inconsistent, looking for consistency in sanctions is ridiculous. The NRL can't foresee the myriad of f**ked up shit players do each year, nor expect the circumstances around each incident to be in any way consistent. They therefore can only be treated on their individual merits, and sanctioned accordingly.

 

[POPEYE]

Yada yada yada

 

[Nice Beaver]

Seems like your still a little butt hurt mate?

Happened 11years ago. Brett Stewart in "09" was the face of rugby league. He was blind drunk and carried on like a idiot at a manly function which then lead to the sexual assault allegations. 4 weeks was too much after the court preceding showed that the girl was lieing. I would of been happy with 1 game suspension. You can take up your issues with gallop. The Stewart's carried on like children after ban though. Probably still carrying on about it.

Remember the nrl hasn't handed there punishment down yet.

Have proctor or browmich been charged?

You are clearly 16 years old with the dribble you are sprouting in this thread. I am not even going to bother getting into the issues around the hanndling of Stewart and other pathetic scenarios the NRL has created for itself.

Proctor and Bromich have ADMITTED it you imbecile. If they are charged is irrelevent at this point given they have ADMITTED to it.

Charges are only relevent to criminal records etc. The NRL can step in right now given they have admitted to it.

By your reasoning, nothing should happen unless they are charged. I could care less about what the police do with this.

I'm more concerned with the fact these dopey turds continue to shit all over the game that affords them an income and lifestyle far beyond most people's wildest dreams.

Want to snort coke and be a dipshit? Go for it.....as a regular Joe not an NRL player. No-one holds a gun to their heads to sign a contract and be tied to a standard above the rest of us plebs.

 

[Nice Beaver]

Why is that a shit thing to say? It is possible. Mave is pointing out that the lack of consistency and procedural fairness in the NRL's processes leaves it very open to exploitation.

And being "smart" or experienced doesn't help at all if someone makes allegations against you, until they are resolved. I've been through similar experiences, and if my work had been brought in to it I would have been "rested" indefinitely until I was cleared (which thankfully wasn't too long a period).

You are trying to talk sense to a 16 year old who is ill-informed and talking through his arse.

I'd just leave it and discuss the topic with adults, mate.

 

[Nice Beaver]

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[Pete Cash]

Cant all drug cases be refered to wada? Warnie got 2 years for his mums weight loss powder, sailor got 2 years for coke, swimmers are about to get shafted for missing drug tests, tennis players have to have their whereabouts known 24 hours a day, so why is league any different? If we take it out of the nrls hands we will see an end to the inconsistency of the punishments. It should not be left to the clubs.

Warnie got banned for using a masking agent after he made a miraculous recovery to make the world cup squad.

Of course he claims that it was taken to look less fat on TV

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Remind me again exactly what Mitchell Pearce did that broke any laws. The worst thing he did in that whole saga was try and kiss a girl that didn't want to be kissed. The NRL were pretty quick to come down on him, and pretty damn hard.

Do you thinks it's normal to dry hump someone else's dog?
Also Pearce himself decided that 8 weeks was a suitable time on the side lines. But keep the nrl bashing going.

 

[Tommy Smith]

So just to clarify, you think pretending to dry hump a dog when you're pissed is worthy of an 8 week suspension and a 6 figure fine?

 

[Tommy Smith]

Do you thinks it's normal to dry hump someone else's dog?

Also is the issue that it was someone else's dog?

Would it have been normal had he dry humped his own dog?

 

[Jason Maher]

Who cares? The stuff shouldn't be illegal anyway.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

You are clearly 16 years old with the dribble you are sprouting in this thread. I am not even going to bother getting into the issues around the hanndling of Stewart and other pathetic scenarios the NRL has created for itself.

Proctor and Bromich have ADMITTED it you imbecile. If they are charged is irrelevent at this point given they have ADMITTED to it.

Charges are only relevent to criminal records etc. The NRL can step in right now given they have admitted to it.

By your reasoning, nothing should happen unless they are charged. I could care less about what the police do with this.

I'm more concerned with the fact these dopey turds continue to shit all over the game that affords them an income and lifestyle far beyond most people's wildest dreams.

Want to snort coke and be a dipshit? Go for it.....as a regular Joe not an NRL player. No-one holds a gun to their heads to sign a contract and be tied to a standard above the rest of us plebs.

Do you normally resort to age payouts when you don't like what someone says? And you think I'm 16. You still hurt over little B Stewart?

It happened in 09!!!!! Gallop was in charge. I said I disagreed over the punishment. Nearly 3 tv deals ago. The arlc wasn't even formed. The Nrl was being run on an oily rag. Now is no where near what it was back then. And to say it is, is absolute ignorance.

Now you wouldn't be good in court. Browmichs statement does NOT admit to taking any illegal substance nor does it say what substance he may have been taking. Now any good lawyer whether you like it or not, would get him off this so called grainy footage. It could be sherbet? Now we all know it wasn't and most likely was cocaine but don't be so naive, this is the harshest punishment that unless more info comes to light that they could receive. (Apart from the nrl handing down extra punishment).

I never said nothing should be done. Don't put words in my mouth. And I agree with them being dopey turds and shitting in our game. They are very lucky to be in there position and it gets lost by them.

Take a chill pill, deep breath and relax.

 

[Perth Red]

The entitlement some these players feel and ram in our faces will come home to roost with more and more fans being turned off the game if not careful. Wether it's Dugan telling us he is worth more than $600k a year or Bromwich shting on the kiwi jersey they need to pull their heads in and realise that if it wasn't for the nrl most of them would be lucky to be in put in charge of a cement mixer on a building site!