roughyedspud
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the less 'horsemen' australia have the less scary they are.....FACT :lol:
Pete, that is incorrect, they have Roby.
Considering Cam Smith isn't considered a horseman I'm not that worried.
Cam Smith > any player England have produced, period.
Period.
Smith is an all time great.
Great argument as per usual.
Smith has Hanley covered in every aspect but a running game. Hanley could never control a game as good as Smith can.
As much as I think Smith is a merkin, I have to agree with Pete on this one
While Hanley was a game breaker at the height of his career, he was always prone to making the stupid play when the pressure was on. Smith is a complete footballer and like Lockyer, rarely loses his cool on the paddock.
Smiths work out of dummy half is the best in the game, probably the best there has ever been given what is expected from hookers in the modern game
You know you have nothing when your best argument is 'I'm right, you're wrong'. Face it, you can't form a plausible argument so you resort to the usual childish post filled with insults where you throw the toys out of the cot. I know it's a big statement, but at this stage I don't see how I'm wrong.
hutch said:thats fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion and i probably went over the top on this one by calling you an imbecile. although my argument of "hanley is better than smith" is on par with your argument that "smith > any player england have produced, period."
Difference is, I wasn't arguing, just making a point. You were making an argument against that point and failed to elaborate on it. But you've remedied that so it's fine.
And yes, Hanley was a fine player. But I'd still take Smith. Smith controls a game as well as any player I've seen, and yes that includes Lewis, Lockyer and Johns. Hanley may have been a more versatile player, but Smith has mastered the toughest position in the game and refined it to a point where he made a player of Buderus' calibre look insignificant. Rugby League, at it's very core, is a team game and while Hanley may stand out as an individual, he isn't as great a team player like Smith. Which isn't to say Hanley is the s**ts. It's just Smith is one of the best players of all time and I can't believe anyone could underrate him.