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La Liga

Bulldog Force

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Such a dull league. 7-0?

It's like watching Spain vs Tahiti except it's every week.
If you appreciate the beauty that Barca have formed, you'll know that is not the case. Levante will give most other teams in Spain, England, France, Italy and Germany a good run for their money! Not to mention shit all over any A-League side!
 

BDR

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If you appreciate the beauty that Barca have formed, you'll know that is not the case. Levante will give most other teams in Spain, England, France, Italy and Germany a good run for their money! Not to mention shit all over any A-League side!

That's my point, the league is not competitive. Levante are a great little team, and they were torn to shreds by 11 of the best players in the world. Seems like every year there is a gap of about 40 points between first and fourth.
 

Bulldog Force

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Saw a Spanish news report showing that LFP clubs are collectively in almost ?4b of debt. Absurd.

As the attachment shows, it's really gotten out of control in the last 5 years.

It's also interesting to again see in the 2nd graph the discrepancy between the top 2 and the rest in terms of TV rights relative to other leagues.

This is the news report from which I got those screenshots (it's in Spanish though):
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/...fesionales-deben-4000-millones-euros/1943728/
It is very bad. At the end of the last World Cup in 2010, Barca alone were in debt to the tune of something like ?550,000,000. However, given the amount of money Nike make off selling their merchandise, they will NEVER let them go belly-up. Look at Beckham, they paid him the $250,000,000 to join LA Galaxy to sell jerseys and generate revenue.
 

Big Sam

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I don't get the issue. If the EEC is going to challenge them on being member-owned, they'd have to take on dozens of clubs in Germany as well.

The only problem is how 4 La Liga clubs get taxfree status which creates an imbalance within Spain. But until there's taxation uniformity across Europe, again it's an issue the EEC can't really attack them on.

FTR I don't think clubs in Australia pay tax either as they are considered as NFP.
 

WireMan

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I don't get the issue. If the EEC is going to challenge them on being member-owned, they'd have to take on dozens of clubs in Germany as well.

The only problem is how 4 La Liga clubs get taxfree status which creates an imbalance within Spain. But until there's taxation uniformity across Europe, again it's an issue the EEC can't really attack them on.

FTR I don't think clubs in Australia pay tax either as they are considered as NFP.



In Europe is illegal for one of the member states government to help out a company against other companies in Europe.

So for example the Italian government can't aid Fiat if they are in competition with BMW.


In this case it is about the help the Spanish government has given Barca and Real with tax breaks and a special status against other clubs in Spain and in Europe. More specifically the land deal the Madrid government did with Real with regards to the training ground.

Basically it is illegal in European law so the clubs would have to change their status to be the same as other Spanish clubs or face possible sanctions from the EU.


The issue not is about being member owned. German clubs do not receive help from the German government. Their business structures are privately run (from a government sense) and they are free to do what they like (within the rules set by the Bundesliga of course). If Bayern run out of money tomorrow, they are bust. A bit like Rangers in Scotland. No saving from the government.

I hope this was clear. Euro law can be confusing and i'm tired... :D
 

Big Sam

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Yes that helped and I get what you're saying but company tax rates are different from country to country in Europe so I'm just not sure that the EU would have success attacking them from that angle e.g. the company tax rate in England will soon be 20% but will remain above 30% in France, Spain, and Germany. This will clearly advantage PL clubs.

Subsidies and bailouts to clubs however would be an issue the EU would have more success with.
 

Big Sam

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The LFP has unveiled a new official youtube page which shows highlights, goals etc.

http://www.youtube.com/user/laliga

It's not exactly the same as having 7 matches/week live in HD like we did as recently as May 2012, BUT it's better than the complete blackout of last season.
 

boxhead

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Still scratching my head that Madrid sold Ozil. They are going to be hard pressed to find a player anywhere near to that quality creatively.
 

boxhead

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But that's the thing see, Ozil was a name. When you are expected to win or go deep in La Liga and UCL, you don't sell your second best player.
 

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