League players and the Comm/Olympic Games

[kiwii]

Why did GT not ask for a team full of All Blacks for the comm games or world cup??? simply because they players he had where more suitable for 7's

110% agree they are more suitable because they train for 7's and are the best available not necessarily the best in the country.

 

[Te Kaha]

110% agree they are more suitable because they train for 7's and are the best available not necessarily the best in the country.

With the odd exception, They ARE the best 7's players in the country... thats why they were picked and the team wasnt full of All Blacks.

 

[Loudstrat]

So if 7's and 15's are so different, why do you base your argument on what the 15's have or havent done?

NRL boys would slaughter them, and you know it. Not from scratch (I never said that). Obviously they would need at least half an hour's practice.

 

[Te Kaha]

So if 7's and 15's are so different, why do you base your argument on what the 15's have or havent done?

NRL boys would slaughter them, and you know it. Not from scratch (I never said that). Obviously they would need at least half an hour's practice.

Because there is only one instance of an NRL player having switched to play 7's... the only reall evidence is in the 15 aside game.. which clearly shows NRL players are no better.. the one instance of a former NRL Standard player playing 7's is Tuqiri for the Melbourne comm games... and one for NRL substandard player Luke Burgess.... and Tuqiri, who was one of the top wingers in the NRL, an origin and international... who is good enough to play League for the Kangaroos still.... what did he help the Aus 7's team win at the comm games?... nada, zip, zero

Your argument has zero evidence to support it. It is nothing more than your opinion, League players who have played Rugby 7's have not added anything of note.

 

[Loudstrat]

Bump - in honour of the 7'/9s thread and the RWC in the NRL thread.

Some classic Union bullsh*t in here too!

 

[Perth Red]

They should make up a obscure C'Wealth country team made up of NRL loaned out players. Would be funny as to see the NRL Seychelles team beat the best RU nations!

 

[aqua_duck]

They should make up a obscure C'Wealth country team made up of NRL loaned out players. Would be funny as to see the NRL Seychelles team beat the best RU nations!

I'm sure you could make up an NFL team with NRL players and win the superbowl too, while we're at it an NRL soccer team to win the world cup, you know since rugby league players are genetically superior to everyone else

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

They should make up a obscure C'Wealth country team made up of NRL loaned out players. Would be funny as to see the NRL Seychelles team beat the best RU nations!

If they done that, I might actually watch the comm games.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

I'm sure you could make up an NFL team with NRL players and win the superbowl too, while we're at it an NRL soccer team to win the world cup, you know since rugby league players are genetically superior to everyone else

Derp!

 

[typicalfan]

The only thing they would need is awareness, people don't understand how much opening the field up would help League players.

I don't know if they would win first time out but they would definitely hold their own. Just because they are League players doesn't mean they cannot adjust. It isn't like converting to AFL or soccer where the entire sport is different. In some ways Rugby 7s is more like League than Union.

Rugby League players would have no doubt the fitness required and the distinction isn't that large. Many League players before they hit the big time play Union and know the basics.

The toughest bit would be the set piece and the ruck.

The reason why the Wallabies have struggled so much in recent years is due to their awful forwards and maybe a lack of depth, but trust a union fan to blame a handful of converted wingers for 10 years or so of mediocrity.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

You mean those same league players that were hopeless in union?


Wendell Sailor:lol:
Matt Rogers :lol:
Lote Tuquri:lol:
Timana Tahu:lol:

A funny thing happens when you speak to Rugger merkins about League converts, their idea of success is geniused

Sailor - 37 times played for Australia, 55 games in the Super Rugby
Rogers - 45 times played for Australia, 40 games for NSW
Tuqiri - 67 times played for Australia, 76 for NSW and 16 for Leicester

Tahu is the only considered failure, and yet, he played 20 games for NSW and walked into the Wallabies side.

In fact that's what you often find when you look at these League failures. Despite not knowing the game, they all walk into professional teams and often national teams. If that's a failure I'm not quite sure what a success would look like.

In Sevens League players are even more comfortable. Denan Kemp is in the bloody Aus sevens team!

Most the NRL would walk into a professional Rugby contract.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Rugby 7's is all about speed,there aren't many in league who are faster then Lachie Turner


League players would not make better rugby 7's players,end of story.

That's not true. Plenty of teams have plenty slower than Turner. Plenty of better teams, too.

League backs are plenty fast enough for 7's. Obviously you don't watch 7's or know anything about 7's. So don't f**king speak on 7's, dipshit.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

fourplay, you should at least watch the game.

The athlete needed for rugby 7s and rugby league is completely different. Turner is a borderline 7s player. Hayne & Inglis are nowhere near it.

Inglis would not even be in the picture after about 2 minutes. Let alone have any part in the play.

PARRA IS TALKING COMPLETE f**kING NONSENSE!

The Yank team have managed to turn 3 American football players into Sevens players, bullshit to any suggestion that Hayne or Inglis couldn't get into Sevens shape. Hayne is already there.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

There are skills required in RU Sevens that are not required in RL. As for strength and fitness - Sevens fitness is different to NRL fitness. I would doubt that there is much difference in strength across professional RU and RL players.


Soccer players are the most skilled at soccer, ditto AFL players in their sport. It does not follow that soccer or AFL players would be successful in a different sport.


RU Sevens skills could, of course, be learned by RL players, but they would need to play a full season to justify selection in a national RU Sevens side. That is the way representative sport works.

NONSENSE. The Yanks are walking up football players into their team and they're doing relatively well.

"Sevens skills", they don't f**king exist. Sevens skills are just Union backs with a bit of ability. Any League player would walk into Sevens, that's a fact.

There's nothing special about most sevens players, the majority of NRL backs and even some forwards would walk into every Sevens team on the planet.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Hayne isnt good enough to switch and immediately dominate... given time he might... but not straight away... to say otherwise is stupid.

Bullshit mate. You seem to forget that many Sevens players walk into the game with no previous experience all the time. Lomu is a great example.

Sevens doesn't take time to learn. Give someone like Hayne the ball and he would savage the opposition.

Nobody could handle Hayne. Too big, too fast, too strong. And has superior everything to most Sevens players.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

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You stupid gimp. There is about 5 people on the planet that could tackle Hayne one on one with the space availale on the 7's field. Ditto Inglis. Besides you wouldn't need 7 NRL players, in fact you'd only need 3. A bloke to catch it and pass it to Fui Fui, and a decoy. So in theory you could do it with Luke Burt (catcher) and Brett Finch (decoy). Burt, Moi Moi and Finch would smash them in attack. Add Hindy and Michael Luck for defence. Sorry, that makes 5!

I could easily name 100 league players who could make up a winning Olympic Union 7's side, but seriously any League player that needs 3 players to nullify him (ie almost half the opposition 7's team) would kill it.

Mateo and his offload.
Pritchard
Hayne
Fui
Manu
Benji and his kangaroo hop
Petero
Hindy
Burgess
Preston
Anyone running off Thurston, Prince or Heather
M Mini in his prelim final form
Jennings and Gordon
Taylor
Gaz and his shimmy shimmy shake
Slater
Carney (before or after the pub)
Idris
Watmough
etc etc etc


All you need to do is break a tackle. Or draw 2 and offload. And regardless of what training one needs to do, the NRL/ESL guys could eat it. Why? Because of the QUALITY of the opposition. Face it, if these guys are sevens players and sevens players only, they must be crap. Why? Because they can't even get a gig in a Super 12! Plenty of NRL reserve graders have forged great Super 12 carers. If you can't get in the Super 12, what's the choice? QLD Cup or Union 7's.

The Cowboys pack would be undefeated 7's champions as sure as Greg Inglis has a beer gut. Therefore, a DECENT selection from the NRL would be murderous.




History has shown SG Ball level players an be wallabies in 18 months - courtesy of Mr. D Macrae and Mr B Barnes. And fat low old Andy Farrell can rise from whinging pommy slob to a Union great without much disturbance of his waist line.

The Union trolls make me laugh at their conviction of their stupidity :lol::lol:

Mate, 80% of the people you named wouldn't be able to get a hand on a Sevens player. There is no real defence in Sevens, it's attack and more attack, with attackers pretending to be defenders.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

funny how Gaz didnt "dominate" when he played Rugby in france and yet you think he will against internationals.

Gaz was very highly regarded in Europe. f**k. Do you even watch the Top 14? Gaz was one of the best wingers in the competition, scoring 10 tries in 26 games and taking to the game immediately.

He was absolutely Wallabies standard and were he to play Super Rugby he'd have surely been selected.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Masoe_eats_babies, stop it mate, don't ruin the myth ;-)

Well said in the last 4 or so posts.

Amateurs v Pros and that's what it would be.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

oh and when Farrell played for England they were thrashed in the world cup opener.. after they dumped him they made the final..

Farrell was about 84. Only a Union fan would say "herp derp, we put a pensioner who was crap in his last days of League straight into the England set up"

The fact he got anywhere near the team is a travesty in itself and shows just how poor English rugby is. Saracens even made him a co-captain!

And what is Farrell doing now? Coaching at the Saracens with only 20 games of Rugby under his belt!!!!!

:crazy::crazy::crazy:

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Masoe_eats_babies, stop it mate, don't ruin the myth ;-)

Well said in the last 4 or so posts.

Amateurs v Pros and that's what it would be.

It just grates me how insane some of these Union trolls are, even lying at times.

Most Sevens players are amateurs who are thrust into their national team with no prior experience. If bloody Miles Craigwell and Leonard Peters are good enough for the US team(who really aren't that bad) then Hayne will walk into a Sevens team.

Short of a player going on to Lomu-esque legend I don't think a League player will be ever accepted as successful by Rugby.

In a sad way it shows how little Rugby fans think of their own game. That they consider players from another sport moving to Rugby with no experience, becoming great Pro player and often getting international reps. If that's not success it says a lot about Rugby, doesn't it :shock: