LU Arsenal Brigade II

[boxhead]

Cause hes good enough to play there EG, the game against sunderland,
Sahin played his best football in his last season at dortmund, where he played as a AM for much of the season

M'Vila played his last game for rennes yesturday, so i expect him here sooner rather than later

I've seen that both Sahin and M'Villa may not be going to Arsenal after all. I wouldn't expect it if I were you - not that I think they won't happen, but football is football and rumours are rumours, as they say. I never think a deal is done until it pops up in an official statement from a club.
Rennes' chairman has apparently come out and said M'Villa is more likely coming to us than Arsenal in the past few hours, not that I believe it.
Also, apparently our own chairman is trying to derail your Sahin deal :crazy:

 

[WireMan]

Ffs.

Sahin isn't an AM and we aren't even close to getting M'Vila atm.

I'd be surprised if Arsene throws Sahin in against Stoke, that's if he gets here before then, first game will probably be against Liverpool.

Why would you even move Cazorla out wide? He's already our best player, what would be the point of moving him away from the position where he can be most influential?

I didn't like that team either.

IF you get Sahin then he is best as the sitting mid. Carzola goes infront. Stick Podolski out wide and play Giroud up front.

Good midfield, but average up front and at the back.

I've seen that both Sahin and M'Villa may not be going to Arsenal after all. I wouldn't expect it if I were you - not that I think they won't happen, but football is football and rumours are rumours, as they say. I never think a deal is done until it pops up in an official statement from a club.
Rennes' chairman has apparently come out and said M'Villa is more likely coming to us than Arsenal in the past few hours, not that I believe it.
Also, apparently our own chairman is trying to derail your Sahin deal :crazy:

Levy is to busy derailing Spurs season to worry about Arsenals transfers. ;-)


I also agree that putting in 100% is not a skill. I can play for Spurs and do that. Parker is very limited as a footballer so for that reason, i'm out.

 

[WireMan]

I suppose i should comment on RVP also.

A lot of tears from Arsenal fans but i'm not sure why. If you sign players from other places then you can't expect them to stay there whole career, especially if they are from another country.


It may help Arsenal out. When United sold Ronaldo we wondered how we were going to replace him. The answer is you play a different way and others step up. The only worry for Arsenal is that there may be no one to step up. The pressure on Podolski and Giroud just trebled, and its a risk.

To early to judge yet.

 

[boxhead]

True stuff.

I respectfully disagree on Parker though. He's too good a tackler to simply call him mediocre IMO.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Well the Nuri Sahin deal is done, will report to training ground after 4 london time, so 1 down one to go

 

[AusKnightRKO]

I suppose i should comment on RVP also.

A lot of tears from Arsenal fans but i'm not sure why. If you sign players from other places then you can't expect them to stay there whole career, especially if they are from another country.


It may help Arsenal out. When United sold Ronaldo we wondered how we were going to replace him. The answer is you play a different way and others step up. The only worry for Arsenal is that there may be no one to step up. The pressure on Podolski and Giroud just trebled, and its a risk.

To early to judge yet.

Nani took over the ronaldo role, and rooney took up the goal machine role, we dont have that

 

[WireMan]

Nani took over the ronaldo role, and rooney took up the goal machine role, we dont have that

Rooney played left wing for us and Nani was an inconsistent winger.

The point is someone else had to step up and they did.


Plan "Give it to RvP" is over now. It will take a few weeks, but something will change. Someone else will have to step into the goal scoring shoes.

Maybe Theo can shine? He is a good finisher, just lacks a football brain, but as a forward he could be very good.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I've seen that both Sahin and M'Villa may not be going to Arsenal after all. I wouldn't expect it if I were you - not that I think they won't happen, but football is football and rumours are rumours, as they say. I never think a deal is done until it pops up in an official statement from a club.
Rennes' chairman has apparently come out and said M'Villa is more likely coming to us than Arsenal in the past few hours, not that I believe it.
Also, apparently our own chairman is trying to derail your Sahin deal :crazy:

Maybe your chairman should concentrate on his own transfers instead of trying to weasel in on ours haha.

There's what? 9 days left in the window and your midfield is weak and you have one striker.

If i were him i'd be going after players who you have a chance of getting. Not going for players that other clubs have almost snapped up.

Sounds like conflicting stories to me. You guys were going on about how you already turned down Real Madrid for Sahin as part of the Modric deal and now you're going after him when he's almost signed with us. Something doesn't add up.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Rooney played left wing for us and Nani was an inconsistent winger.

The point is someone else had to step up and they did.


Plan "Give it to RvP" is over now. It will take a few weeks, but something will change. Someone else will have to step into the goal scoring shoes.

Maybe Theo can shine? He is a good finisher, just lacks a football brain, but as a forward he could be very good.

Definitely. Everyone was wondering where our goals would come from when Fabregas left and Van Persie stood up.

Someone will step into his shoes. They may not do as good as him but they'll go some way to replacing him.

As a team i think we are better overall then it was last season. Cazorla is the second best midfielder we have had in the last 6-7 years and we have more depth at striker than we had last season.

We're not going to challenge. I think most Arsenal fans realize that. But we have more than enough to finish comfortably in the top 4, especially considering the summers our rival's have had, and if luck goes our way we could reach a cup final. Who knows, we could have the run of championship and league 1 sides that Spurs had on their way to the FA Cup semi.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I suppose i should comment on RVP also.

A lot of tears from Arsenal fans but i'm not sure why. If you sign players from other places then you can't expect them to stay there whole career, especially if they are from another country.


It may help Arsenal out. When United sold Ronaldo we wondered how we were going to replace him. The answer is you play a different way and others step up. The only worry for Arsenal is that there may be no one to step up. The pressure on Podolski and Giroud just trebled, and its a risk.

To early to judge yet.

Most Arsenal fans expected Van Persie to leave. It was going to happen. What we can't deal with is him going to a rival team (not so much these days, but Wenger had never sold a player to United).

We figured the club meant enough to the merkin after growing up as an Arsenal fan, saying he could never play for anyone else etc. that he wouldn't push for a move to United.

Then he comes out with that shit about the little kid inside him wanting to join United. The little kid inside him grew up supporting Arsenal. And then he shafts them.

He calls us unambitious while that same unambition worked in his favor. For years he was on the injury table while we stood by him. We could have palmed him off and brought in a reliable striker who would have won us sh!t instead of breaking down every month. He didn't mind us being unambitious while he was picking up his paycheck watching from the sidelines. Then he has one good year and thinks he's too good the club. If he hadn't realized we brought in some pretty handy players this year. With him in it we could have won something.

I don't see how winning something as a bit part player at United could even compare to winning something as the main man at the club he "loves" and grew up following.

Suffice to say i'm not too dissappointed his first game in a United shirt is a loss.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I didn't like that team either.

IF you get Sahin then he is best as the sitting mid. Carzola goes infront. Stick Podolski out wide and play Giroud up front.

Good midfield, but average up front and at the back.

That's how i see it.

Meh. We have a strong first team but not much depth defensively. Mertesacker is alright for a back up CB but we have terrible depth at fullback and even then our starting left back (whoever the f**k that is) isn't great.

Sagna is one of the best RB's in the league, Koscielny was a beast last year and Vermaelen has shown he can be a great defender (when he's not being forced to play lb or galavanting forward).

It doesn't really matter who we have though. We've had decent individuals playing defense but they never function as a unit. Hopefully that'll change with Steve Bould leaving and a real DM coming in but i can't see it.

We have enough players competing for positions up front to cause some damage. (Giroud, Podolski, Oxlade, Walcott, Gervinho, Cazorla)

I'm just happy we don't have to play wingers at fullback, midfielders in defense or 40 year olds in the middle of the field like some do...Then again, if it meant we got to challenge for something i could get used to it.

 

[Twizzle]

Maybe your chairman should concentrate on his own transfers instead of trying to weasel in on ours haha.

There's what? 9 days left in the window and your midfield is weak and you have one striker.

If i were him i'd be going after players who you have a chance of getting. Not going for players that other clubs have almost snapped up.

Sounds like conflicting stories to me. You guys were going on about how you already turned down Real Madrid for Sahin as part of the Modric deal and now you're going after him when he's almost signed with us. Something doesn't add up.

never at any stage were we interested in Sahin, not even when he was offered to us

average player

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Hahahaha. Sahin, average?

Sorry if I don't value your opinion too highly, coming from the guy that didn't think Cazorla would improve our team.

God knows why you continuously tell us what you think about players that you have never seen play. Maybe you should just stick to the PL, and even then i'd take anything you say about a non-Spurs player with a pinch of salt.

Fwiw, I wasn't saying you guys were in for Sahin. It was Boxhead that was. I was just responding.

Sahin, like Cazorla, would walk into your midfield.

He's a phenomonal talent, and if we can somehow tie him up long term our midfield will be set for years, with Sahin, Cazorla, Wilshere, Arteta and Chamberlain.

 

[Twizzle]

now you really are talking out of your arse

firstly I have seen them play, how do you think one forms an opinion ?

secondly, he was never rated by AVB which is why we were never interested, even at bargain basement price.

Why do you think Jose wants rid of him ?

we've obviously set the bar higher

Fwiw, I wasn't saying you guys were in for Sahin.

oh yes you did

Maybe your chairman should concentrate on his own transfers instead of trying to weasel in on ours haha.

Sahin, like Cazorla, would walk into your midfield.

once again, wrong

Sahin wasn't even rated enough to be a squad player

enjoy the rest of your season, I hope he goes well for you guys

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Guess we will wait and see but while you wait watch some footage of sahin at dortmund.
And before you say he wasnt good enough for Real madrid, well lets look at some examples Robben and Sneijder plus i believe Vdv apparently wasnt either.

Sahin will excel at whatever club he ends after he gets out that joke of a club.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

LOL @ Twizzle, guaranteed he has never seen Nuri Sahin play. Ever. Probably never heard of him. Then again AusRKO thinks Sahin plays as an AM so who knows.

Cazorla >>>> the Kiddy fiddler ( ribery) and if robben cant stay on the pitch he will be better than him aswell.
Podolski wont be the next RVP for arsenal, but he is a solid striker, thats all we need.

And on the "Big Club" Bayern cant even win there own league with the shitloads of money they spend and have

I didn't realise FCB had their own league. It is a testament to the strength of the Bundesliga though that money does not dictate success unlike the EPL. Still, to be able to spend 40m (if the deal goes through) of "hard earned money" and "without a Sheikh" as Ottmar Hitzfeld put it and to be able to attract world class players is a great testament to a wonderfully run club.

Lol the rest of your post is lol worthy and I don't give a shit who you do sign or don't sign or what the make up of your team is.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

now you really are talking out of your arse

firstly I have seen them play, how do you think one forms an opinion ?

Well either you haven't seen him play or you're an idiot, i thought i'd give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you hadn't heard of him until this transfer window. An average player wouldn't have been voted Bundesliga player of the year and then subsequently move to one of the three biggest clubs in the world.

secondly, he was never rated by AVB which is why we were never interested, even at bargain basement price.

Why do you think Jose wants rid of him ?

we've obviously set the bar higher

He doesn't want to get rid of him. That's the sole reason it's a loan and not a permanent move. Why do you think it's taking so long for it to happen? Because we want a clause to buy him at the end of the season but Mourinho wants him to go back.

He's young and stuck behind possibly the best DLP in the game (Alonso) and has now brought in Modric who plays a similar position. He's not going to get much game time this season so he naturally thinks of loaning him out.

oh yes you did

I was responding to Boxhead saying you guys were trying to derail our loan deal for him. It's not like I went into your thread talking about how you guys are after Sahin. I was responding to him.

once again, wrong

Sahin wasn't even rated enough to be a squad player

Excuse me if i'm not entirely sold on AVB's valuation of a player. This is the guy that got out managed by Roberto Di Matteo.

If you don't think Sahin is good enough to even be a squad player for you, let alone a starter, then something is messed up.

Sahin is better than all the options you currently have at CM, (Livermore, Parker, Sandro). I'm going out on a limb and i'm going to assume that Boxhead would agree with me on this.

enjoy the rest of your season, I hope he goes well for you guys

Cheers, you too. As i've said before, i'd be more than happy for you guys to finish as high as you want, just as long as it's below Arsenal.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

LOL @ Twizzle, guaranteed he has never seen Nuri Sahin play. Ever. Probably never heard of him. Then again AusRKO thinks Sahin plays as an AM so who knows.



I didn't realise FCB had their own league. It is a testament to the strength of the Bundesliga though that money does not dictate success unlike the EPL. Still, to be able to spend 40m (if the deal goes through) of "hard earned money" and "without a Sheikh" as Ottmar Hitzfeld put it and to be able to attract world class players is a great testament to a wonderfully run club.

Lol the rest of your post is lol worthy and I don't give a shit who you do sign or don't sign or what the make up of your team is.

But to spend 40 mill when you have Emre who will be a superstar plus derflinger is just stupid

 

[boxhead]

Sahin didn't get much of a chance at Real because he was mostly injured during his time there.
Oddly though, he wasn't given as many opportunities in the league and cup as he should have gotten when he returned from injury.
To say he's average is foolish. If AVB doesn't rate him then that's AVB's problem, not Sahins.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Can always count on Boxhead to be objective.

Unless of course we're talking about one Scott Parker ;-) haha kidding.