LU Arsenal Brigade II

[BunniesMan]

Chamberlain should have been on the bench. He's done nothing but impress with every oppurtunity.

And I agree about the contrast between Arshavin and Chamakh. AA just doesn't give a shit, hopefully some rich russian club shells out 10m for him. Chamakh at least shows he's trying his best, sadly that best isn't enough. He's a 3rd stringer at best but with our lack of depth upfront he's our first striker on the bench.

Chamberlain should play ahead of Arshavin, we need to buy a better supersub striker than Chamkh asap in January.

 

[BunniesMan]

Hopefully Arsenal get Gotze and Spurs get a striker so we can both enjoy the top four.
I have to ask, what happened to Arshavin? Has he always been like that?
Arteta has actually surprised me at Arsenal, he's certainly performing better than he did for Everton at this stage I feel.
Agreed regarding the togetherness, despite selling two players who were central to the side in their time and attaining a long of injuries, I'd argue the team is playing far more consistently than it did in the past few years.

Nope.

Arshavin 4 - Liverpool 4 at Anfield says he has skill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLV-65aenrM

Wenger didn't break his transfer record for someone with no talent. He has talent, he's just a lazy f**kwit.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Hopefully Arsenal get Gotze and Spurs get a striker so we can both enjoy the top four.

Keep dreaming. ;-)

I have to ask, what happened to Arshavin? Has he always been like that?
Arteta has actually surprised me at Arsenal, he's certainly performing better than he did for Everton at this stage I feel.
Agreed regarding the togetherness, despite selling two players who were central to the side in their time and attaining a long of injuries, I'd argue the team is playing far more consistently than it did in the past few years.

I'm biased as I love the guy to death (my #23 Arshavin jersey is still worn with pride). For the first 12 months of his Arsenal career, Arshavin was the most exciting signing and player we've had since Thierry imo. His ability to change an entire game was almost stupid.

Sadly, I feel that Russia's failures since Euro 2008 have hugely contributed to his drop in club form and confidence. As the captain of the NT, and their most recognised player, his head must have been all over the place. Once Russia secured Euro 2012 qualification, his form for Arsenal noticeably became better and I even remember him quoted as saying how much the NT's performance was affecting his club form.

As much as I adore the guy, if Zenit throw a 10m offer in the summer I can see him going. He's off contract in 18-24 months as well. He's too weak and lacks the work ethic to be a striker in the EPL, doesn't have the pace to demote Walcott or Gervinho to the bench and unfortunately his preferred position as a ACM doesn't fit into Arsenal's tactical style.

 

[andrew057]

Arteta is playing well, but he was much better a few seasons ago at Everyone. Maybe in 6-12 months he may he at the level, but he's definitely not there yet.

 

[boxhead]

Arteta is playing well, but he was much better a few seasons ago at Everyone. Maybe in 6-12 months he may he at the level, but he's definitely not there yet.

I was more talking about his recent seasons, he had improved quite a bit compared to last season.

 

[andrew057]

I was more talking about his recent seasons, he had improved quite a bit compared to last season.

Yeah but he was still recovering from doing his knee. Before he did that he was chosen in the Spanish national team.

 

[WireMan]

I was more talking about his recent seasons, he had improved quite a bit compared to last season.

He hardly played last season...

He is going alright for you guys. Will be a good short term fix.
The only problem you may have is if it turns into a long term solution.

 

[Twizzle]

you guys ?

lol

pay attention

 

[boxhead]

He's playing much better than I remember, whether it's just last season or 2009/2010 as well I have no idea My memory is bung.
Still, damn good player I always thought. Unlucky when you think that a single generation has Alonso, Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and so on ahead of him in the Spanish NT.

 

[CC_Eagle]

He hardly played last season...

He is going alright for you guys. Will be a good short term fix.
The only problem you may have is if it turns into a long term solution.

He signed a four year deal I believe.

But I'll walk on my lips to Melbourne if he remains at Arsenal for it's entirety.

 

[WireMan]

you guys ?

lol

pay attention

:lol:

yeah my bad.

He signed a four year deal I believe.

But I'll walk on my lips to Melbourne if he remains at Arsenal for it's entirety.

Worth getting a longer contract to protect the investment. If he is still playing for you when it runs out then you have everyright to wonder wtf is going on.

Would be worth it to see a guy trying to walk on his lips though. :lol:

 

[Habitual Linestepper]

He hardly played last season...

He is going alright for you guys. Will be a good short term fix.
The only problem you may have is if it turns into a long term solution.

He's doing a lot better than most people anticipated. He's a player our team has been calling out for years.

I can't imagine he will be a starter after next season though. Wilshere will be back and probably push Ramsey out of the starting lineup, and Ramsey will be back pushing for the first 11 next season.

We are going to have to do some reshaping of things when Wilshere gets back. It'll be interesting to see where Wenger puts him. He grew up playing high up the pitch but then last year he had him behind Cesc to learn the defensive side of the game, he's come out and said he played him further back to develop him into a more well rounded player, which Cesc never was.

He had him playing AM in the preseason so if that's anything to go by it'll be Wilshere-Song-Arteta. Ramsey has really never been an AM. Most Arsenal fans see him as a box to box, he's got a massive work rate so would be able to handle it.

 

[Habitual Linestepper]

Hopefully Arsenal get Gotze and Spurs get a striker so we can both enjoy the top four.
I have to ask, what happened to Arshavin? Has he always been like that?
Arteta has actually surprised me at Arsenal, he's certainly performing better than he did for Everton at this stage I feel.
Agreed regarding the togetherness, despite selling two players who were central to the side in their time and attaining a long of injuries, I'd argue the team is playing far more consistently than it did in the past few years.

A number of things really.

Age, probably a reason Wenger never goes after players nearing their 30's. Granted players don't usually decline at the rate Arsha has.

Lazy as f**k. He used to never track back, that has changed a bit though as he starts to realise he needs to put some effort in if he wants to even be near the line up, especially with how little he adds to the team going forward.

Out of position. This is probably the biggest. Arshavin was amazing in the 08 Euros playing at CAM. But we brought him here and we have been playing him as a winger. He just doesn't have the pace for the wing and it's a bit harder to create when you're stuck out wide getting double teamed by a fullback and cb, especially with how slow we build our attacks. I think seeing player after player get chances at CAM has affected him and he's just kind of given up. It's pretty obvious his heart isn't in it.

He's pretty much become a liability and i for one can't wait till he's gone. Considering how much he cost, obviously not much compared to other teams but being our record signing, you would expect a bit more than 6 months of good form and then 2-3 years of inconsistency.

I do like him though. He's such a character it's hard not to.

 

[CC_Eagle]

A number of things really.

Age, probably a reason Wenger never goes after players nearing their 30's. Granted players don't usually decline at the rate Arsha has.

Lazy as f**k. He used to never track back, that has changed a bit though as he starts to realise he needs to put some effort in if he wants to even be near the line up, especially with how little he adds to the team going forward.

Out of position. This is probably the biggest. Arshavin was amazing in the 08 Euros playing at CAM. But we brought him here and we have been playing him as a winger. He just doesn't have the pace for the wing and it's a bit harder to create when you're stuck out wide getting double teamed by a fullback and cb, especially with how slow we build our attacks. I think seeing player after player get chances at CAM has affected him and he's just kind of given up. It's pretty obvious his heart isn't in it.

He's pretty much become a liability and i for one can't wait till he's gone. Considering how much he cost, obviously not much compared to other teams but being our record signing, you would expect a bit more than 6 months of good form and then 2-3 years of inconsistency.

I do like him though. He's such a character it's hard not to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NfY3omX8MM

This moment alone will have him remembered as a legend.

Still makes me hard to this day.

 

[CC_Eagle]

He's doing a lot better than most people anticipated. He's a player our team has been calling out for years.

I can't imagine he will be a starter after next season though. Wilshere will be back and probably push Ramsey out of the starting lineup, and Ramsey will be back pushing for the first 11 next season.

We are going to have to do some reshaping of things when Wilshere gets back. It'll be interesting to see where Wenger puts him. He grew up playing high up the pitch but then last year he had him behind Cesc to learn the defensive side of the game, he's come out and said he played him further back to develop him into a more well rounded player, which Cesc never was.

He had him playing AM in the preseason so if that's anything to go by it'll be Wilshere-Song-Arteta. Ramsey has really never been an AM. Most Arsenal fans see him as a box to box, he's got a massive work rate so would be able to handle it.

Arteta has been brilliant imo.

Fantastic 'keeper' of the ball, great vision and technique. He was superb against City for all of these reasons. The real MOTM.

He doesn't have the flashyness of Cesc or others, but the patience, experience and maturity he has is what Arsenal have been lacking for a few seasons. He is untouchable at the moment.

Song - Arteta - Wilshere. With the latter playing as an AM. With the addition of another CM (I'm ignoring Diaby), our midfield rotation will be decent :

Wilshere
Song
Arteta
Ramsey
M'Vila/Gourcuff/Player X/Player Y
Frimpong
Coquelin

Speaking of Diaby, didn't he recently make his 'comeback' against Bolton the other week, and has now disappeared again?

In further injury news : Surprise, surprise Gibbs' injury isn't healing as quickly as it should and he now requires another operation. His expected return date is now late January.....in 2013 no doubt.

We could very well see a LB signed on loan next month. So long as it's not Wayne f*cking Bridge. Personally, I don't see the problem in playing Vermaelen on the left and Per/Kos in the middle?

 

[BunniesMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NfY3omX8MM

This moment alone will have him remembered as a legend.

Still makes me hard to this day.

Still can't believe we beat Barcelona while playing both Bendtner and Arshavin.

Arteta has been brilliant imo.

Fantastic 'keeper' of the ball, great vision and technique. He was superb against City for all of these reasons. The real MOTM.

He doesn't have the flashyness of Cesc or others, but the patience, experience and maturity he has is what Arsenal have been lacking for a few seasons. He is untouchable at the moment.

Song - Arteta - Wilshere. With the latter playing as an AM. With the addition of another CM (I'm ignoring Diaby), our midfield rotation will be decent :

Wilshere
Song
Arteta
Ramsey
M'Vila/Gourcuff/Player X/Player Y
Frimpong
Coquelin

Speaking of Diaby, didn't he recently make his 'comeback' against Bolton the other week, and has now disappeared again?

In further injury news : Surprise, surprise Gibbs' injury isn't healing as quickly as it should and he now requires another operation. His expected return date is now late January.....in 2013 no doubt.

We could very well see a LB signed on loan next month. So long as it's not Wayne f*cking Bridge. Personally, I don't see the problem in playing Vermaelen on the left and Per/Kos in the middle?

Per is very effective against most teams in the league that have big traditional strikers like a Crouch or Bendtner. But when we play the better teams with any pace, he (sometimes) gets exposed.

We need a LB so we can play Kos/Verm in the centre where they're almost impossible to beat. Then rotate Per in against teams he'd be most effective against.

 

[CC_Eagle]

True, true.

I haven't found Per's pace (or lack thereof) to be that much of an issue tbh. It's more so his lack of agility - turning or moving his body into the right position quickly. Plus there was 'that' f*ck up the other week against Norwich.

I squealed like a school girl when I read this. I hope it eventuates into something :

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tra...an-from-New-York-Red-Bulls-article846000.html

 

[BunniesMan]

Henry, a creative midfielder, a leftback. I'd be very happy with that in January.

 

[ByRd]

Seeing Henry pull on the jersey again will be unbelievable, i think as a short term backup he will be perfect and can provide some more experience and leadership, i don't see a problem with it.

 

[Habitual Linestepper]

Seeing Henry pull on the jersey again will be unbelievable, i think as a short term backup he will be perfect and can provide some more experience and leadership, i don't see a problem with it.

You mean other than him possibly causing harm to his reputation?

I for one want to remember him as he is. But if i had to choose between bringing no one in or bringing Henry back for a bit i'd choose Henry. Obviously the best outcome for us would be buying someone but we only seem to be looking at people who we are already priced out of getting Gotze, Reus, Hazard etc.