Luciano Leilua

[nontime111]

Main issue is the Coach, we play a predictable rubbish safety first game, no one else is responsible. Graham used to offload a lot more. Now he runs to the line every time and gets tackled. Most of our plays are soooo predictable, no chip kicks no early kicks nothing

yes Im a huge David Waite era guy....I think we could have really done something way more if he stayed don for a few years...it was so short that period of great attacking flare, Mcfrog is the opposite to Waite...boring, always offensive, safety first, low percentage plays, why do we even watch? to see some excitement! I do anyway as a former back
My favourite image of a red and white Dragon last season was the Luch play taking half the Rorters team with him in one of those last games....never seen that Id like to keep him just to see THAT again!

I usually watch heaps of the vids of our games in the off season from the season just been...but not this time, that says it all

 

[Forster Dragon]

I think we all agree the Coach is the problem

 

[slippery5]

Luch is our gun weapon in the forwards off the bench to me....he cannot be let go until he gets at least a whole season in the team to show us, I think hes got more ceiling for improvement than anyone, up there with Kerr and Ford, besides I LOVE watching him play as hes so different exciting raw and total genius at getting balls away he should be our main attacking weapon in the forwards with the little fast backs ( dufty, sailor, lomax etc) hanging off him for offloads who cannot see this??!

It starts with a M

 

[muzby]

It starts with a M

Millward?

 

[slippery5]

Millward?

Ok a double M

 

[muzby]

Ok a double M

Mmillward?

 

[possm]

Wrong again...Robson was told he would get a spot in the starting lineup @ the beginning of the 2018 season...coach didn't follow through...

Robson wanted a spot in the starting lineup...Season 2018 - 19 McInnes wanted to be an 80 min player...Coach endorsed this...Plenty on here were calling for Robson to get a spot on the bench prior to this season..

Robson wanted to be a starting Hooker...So even when coach acted ( Far too late ) it made no difference because other clubs were offering Robson a starting spot and better money..

This lies directly at the feet of the coach...his inability to progress players through to the Top grade and also allegedly making certain promises and they do not come into fruition....same situation as 3 others...

Can't say any more....Sooner Coach is gone the better.

So nothing to do with Millward....

I'm always banging on about this because it is all to do with Millward and his handlers - old boy backers. The new system where Millward reports to the CEO rather than to the head coach is an old boy made opportunity for Millward to be slotted into a highly paid uncontested job. The excuse given at the time was two fold:

• Mary is not up to the recruiting duties.
• The new arrangement would make the long term future of the SGI roster less dependant on the current coach, mitigating the need to clean out a roster each time a new coach is appointed.

Millward would only to be additional conditions on the contract and give a signed copy to Mary. Mary would have to comply.

 

[possm]

I think we all agree the Coach is the problem

All but the members of the SGI Board who are the decision makers.

 

[Wittenberg]

Good luck to Luc. Mary and Millward will rue the day they let him go as we will rue the day (years and months) we didn't let Mary go. Luch's progress, or the lack of it, will be another measure of how bad Mary and our Board is.

 

[True_Believer]

I'm always banging on about this because it is all to do with Millward and his handlers - old boy backers. The new system where Millward reports to the CEO rather than to the head coach is an old boy made opportunity for Millward to be slotted into a highly paid uncontested job. The excuse given at the time was two fold:

• Mary is not up to the recruiting duties.
• The new arrangement would make the long term future of the SGI roster less dependant on the current coach, mitigating the need to clean out a roster each time a new coach is appointed.

Millward would only to be additional conditions on the contract and give a signed copy to Mary. Mary would have to comply.

Not that I expect you will be able to answer (or respond at all), but where did the club state the second point? I've never seen it written or heard it stated anywhere.

Secondly, even with a board as hopeless as ours, there's no way they would believe that could work. Firstly, there isn't a sporting club in the world that would have the recruitment sign players independent of the coach. The coach needs to have input into the players being signed - afterall, he has coaching techniques that he would expect would suit certain players and styles. If the recruiter is out recruiting anyone he wants, then that puts the coach at a significant disadvantage before the team even comes together for training.

Secondly, and you continually miss this point, Mary is the one selecting the team. So, even with the remote chance this is how it works, no matter who Millward signs, it's ultimately up to Mary who he puts in the team.

And that's what is happening with the youngsters. Millward is keeping them coming through the ranks - but the roadblock is into NRL. And Mary is the key here.

 

[possm]

Not that I expect you will be able to answer (or respond at all), but where did the club state the second point? I've never seen it written or heard it stated anywhere.

Secondly, even with a board as hopeless as ours, there's no way they would believe that could work. Firstly, there isn't a sporting club in the world that would have the recruitment sign players independent of the coach. The coach needs to have input into the players being signed - afterall, he has coaching techniques that he would expect would suit certain players and styles. If the recruiter is out recruiting anyone he wants, then that puts the coach at a significant disadvantage before the team even comes together for training.

Secondly, and you continually miss this point, Mary is the one selecting the team. So, even with the remote chance this is how it works, no matter who Millward signs, it's ultimately up to Mary who he puts in the team.

And that's what is happening with the youngsters. Millward is keeping them coming through the ranks - but the roadblock is into NRL. And Mary is the key here.

I just remember the announcement made by Doust and Mary.

I do realize that Mary selects the players and so that is why I keep going on about Millward because there is no real good reason for him not reporting to Mary who then reports to the General Manager Football or the CEO.

If Millward reported to Mary, then Mary would have to sign off or contribute to the make up of the squad. He will then be responsible for all these retention mistakes and in-ability to attract good first grade players.

 

[True_Believer]

I just remember the announcement made by Doust and Mary.

I do realize that Mary selects the players and so that is why I keep going on about Millward because there is no real good reason for him not reporting to Mary who then reports to the General Manager Football or the CEO.

If Millward reported to Mary, then Mary would have to sign off or contribute to the make up of the squad. He will then be responsible for all these retention mistakes and in-ability to attract good first grade players.

So do you believe he and Millward aren't working together at the moment? Have you ever worked in a professional environment? My personal KPI's talk about working in conjunction with my peers and ensuring we get the job done even though I report to my manager and so do my peers. I struggle to see, even if Mary and Millward report to the CEO, that this wouldn't be a requirement. There is no way they are working independently of each other. So it doesn't matter who they report to, there is a need for them to work together and I have no doubt this is what is happening. Mary is dictating the requirements and building a some sort of plan (however feeble it is), and Millward is working to those requirements. Once it comes to team makeup, Millward has no say.

You're getting hung up on some irrelevant and imaginary reporting structure which really doesn't impact the situation. And your last sentence makes no sense. He's already responsible for the retention issues and inability to attract players because he's the coach. That is all on him and not on Millward. It's only you that seems to think Millward plays some part in that.

 

[getsmarty]

I'm always banging on about this because it is all to do with Millward and his handlers - old boy backers. The new system where Millward reports to the CEO rather than to the head coach is an old boy made opportunity for Millward to be slotted into a highly paid uncontested job. The excuse given at the time was two fold:

• Mary is not up to the recruiting duties.
• The new arrangement would make the long term future of the SGI roster less dependant on the current coach, mitigating the need to clean out a roster each time a new coach is appointed.

Millward would only to be additional conditions on the contract and give a signed copy to Mary. Mary would have to comply.

Believe what you want...you are Wrong...FACT....McGregor tells Millward who he wants...

Go look at the Luke signing interview..McGregor wanted Luke.......anyway, not interested in getting into an argument over this...your entitled to your views , even if they are fiction.

Millward has done a good job re-signing the bulk of our upcoming Juniors...I notice you are deadly silent on this point.

Personally I think they need to put a broom through the whole place...will it happen ..NO...

Getting to the point where I really couldn't care less...we are the laughing stock of the NRL.

Have a good day possm.

 

[TruSaint]

I just remember the announcement made by Doust and Mary.

I do realize that Mary selects the players and so that is why I keep going on about Millward because there is no real good reason for him not reporting to Mary who then reports to the General Manager Football or the CEO.

If Millward reported to Mary, then Mary would have to sign off or contribute to the make up of the squad. He will then be responsible for all these retention mistakes and in-ability to attract good first grade players.

Mate, I have always respected your posts and opinions, but on this matter you seem somewhat obsessed.

The Club has many issues, starting from the BOD down, but your emphasis on Millward is over the top.

 

[Dragonsamy]

Millward is the least of our worries

 

[possm]

So do you believe he and Millward aren't working together at the moment? Have you ever worked in a professional environment? My personal KPI's talk about working in conjunction with my peers and ensuring we get the job done even though I report to my manager and so do my peers. I struggle to see, even if Mary and Millward report to the CEO, that this wouldn't be a requirement. There is no way they are working independently of each other. So it doesn't matter who they report to, there is a need for them to work together and I have no doubt this is what is happening. Mary is dictating the requirements and building a some sort of plan (however feeble it is), and Millward is working to those requirements. Once it comes to team makeup, Millward has no say.

You're getting hung up on some irrelevant and imaginary reporting structure which really doesn't impact the situation. And your last sentence makes no sense. He's already responsible for the retention issues and inability to attract players because he's the coach. That is all on him and not on Millward. It's only you that seems to think Millward plays some part in that.

I'm sure that they both do work together but each do not want to ware the blame of mistakes/stuff ups.

I heard that this arrangement was the main reason Maguire declined an offer to come to SGI as coach.

While I do blame Mary for the decline in our player skills and attitude, I still hold the view that Millward is not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to managing our salary cap and recruiting/retaining players. Mostly I just object to the way old boys like Millward and Mary are given important jobs within the club and not held accountable for all the stuff-ups they make.

 

[muzby]

Millard is the least of our worries

Should we be more concerned about Jayco, Viscount or Elite?

 

[True_Believer]

I'm sure that they both do work together but each do not want to ware the blame of mistakes/stuff ups.

You are right, they don't. But if you take a step outside of your narrow view, you will realise that Millward is doing the best he can with what he has to work with. Has he made mistakes? Sure he has. But so did the numerous others that filled that role prior to him stepping in. In this instance, I don't believe he should take the blame for the current situation. Mary needs to realise that Millward is putting these youngsters in front of him - but he's not taking that opportunity.

As getsmarty has said, you believe what you want to believe. I for one am not blaming Millward for the loss of Robson or Luch. He's done all he can to keep them here - there are other factors at play that he can't compete with.

 

[boardlumps62]

Has Much gone?

 

[SaintPauli]

Absolutely our coach is having his say
along with Millward in recruitment . The fact is players are attracted to clubs because of various attractions , such as $$$, fascilities , lifestyle and the clincher is often the coach and his sales pitch!

What's Marys sale pitch in favour of the Dragons?