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Manly don't want Hasler in 2012

firechild

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Or do you need to do the typical it's their fault not ours attitude?

What a moron. Please show me anywhere that I have suggested it is not the fault of people at Manly. If De$ thinks he is starting a new challenge by taking as many of the coaching staff and players from Manly with him then he is an idiot. How is there a challenge in doing little more than putting different jerseys on the players? Des went for money, the dogs offered it when Manly wouldn't. He got the chance to use the "I didn't go for the money" excuse when the Manly board offered him money when it was all too late. They always said De$ had long pockets and short arms, it was something players alluded to every now and then.
 

Beachy Eagle

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LOL keep deluding yourself he only walked out for the money if it makes you feel better but here's the quote below from the man himself that clearly states nothing could be further from the truth. Though i guess you think he's a liar now :lol:



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-08/dogs-confirm-hasler-coup/3380386





"Despite my ongoing discussions with the board for over 12 months regarding a new contract with the Manly club, we simply could not align our future thoughts.


"Whilst it would have been financially advantageous for me to stay at the Manly club, I have elected to take up the challenge of building in a new direction with the Bulldogs from 2013."

The Base salary at the bulldogs is considerably higher, but with bounses added in it would have been more financial for him to stay at manly.
So to get the bigger money at Manly he would have had to deliver more success, where as at the bulldogs they were prepared to garantee more money irrespective of results, that is the bottom line of it all........
 

sneaky_is_here

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Why would your club want to hold onto someone who has said they are going elsewhere?

More often then not once a coach has signed else where for the following season they are sacked.

Understandable, Bennett proved it. Once he signed with Newcastle his job was then done at the dragons.
 

Beachy Eagle

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Why would your club want to hold onto someone who has said they are going elsewhere?

More often then not once a coach has signed else where for the following season they are sacked.

Understandable, Bennett proved it. Once he signed with Newcastle his job was then done at the dragons.

Agreed, they should have parted cmpany a month ago.
Deal with the short term pain for the long term gain, now it is all just a mess......
 

Gibbo

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747709-geoff-toovey.jpg

"Iceberg dead ahead!"
 

MrT

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The Base salary at the bulldogs is considerably higher, but with bounses added in it would have been more financial for him to stay at manly.
So to get the bigger money at Manly he would have had to deliver more success, where as at the bulldogs they were prepared to garantee more money irrespective of results, that is the bottom line of it all........

Earlier in the year he was willing to re-sign with Manly for $550k a year for next four years but the board voted against it. So he would have stayed for a lot less than Bulldogs offer. It was harder to stuff it up than get it right but Manly managed to stuff it up
 

oval

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Article from the Telegraph.

Love your work Choc!


MANLY'S Test backrower Anthony Watmough has backed the board room decision to stand down Sea Eagles coach Des Hasler and urged his teammates to avoid getting involved in a mass exodus.

Fuming at the way the Sea Eagles have imploded since winning the grand final, Watmough reasoned the Hasler scenario was never going to work once the two-time premiership-winning coach signed with Canterbury-Bankstown for 2013.

Back in camp with the Kangaroos in Manchester after two days in Paris, the Australian lock labelled the current environment of in-fighting at Manly "disgusting".

"It's never really worked having a coach at one club when he's signed at another club," Watmough said.

"We've seen that in the past. I can't bag Dessie out, he's been a good bloke and he's been a good mentor to myself.

"It's still a bit of a shock but probably the [best] direction if the club stands him down is to get Tooves in there as quick as possible.

"In one way it's not a shock because it sort of had to happen.

"There's probably a bit of relief now if they do get rid of him that Tooves can take over and the boys can take his direction.

"Tooves is a great man and a great coach. We love Tooves, he's been there for a long time with us.

"We're not going to lose anything. We lost our coach but we've still got the same playing roster and the boys are always going to be solid to one another."

A one-club servant for the Sea Eagles, Watmough admitted the awkward situation at Narrabeen had him "rattled" before leaving for the four-week tour of England.

"It was always going to be difficult for Dessie to have the last year there and run the club," Watmough said.

"I suppose he's going to be trying to run two clubs at the same time.

"No one's really stoked with what's happening. It's happened. We spoke before I came over here when it was all the speculation about Dessie and the boys just wanted to stick solid.

"I personally was still a bit rattled by it before I came over here."

Asked about the possibility of teammate and Kiwi international Kieran Foran following Hasler to Canterbury-Bankstown, Watmough said: "I haven't spoke to him about it but there's always going to be people going everywhere.

"We all heard he was supposed to go to the Roosters before he re-signed with us and at the end of the day it came down to him playing with his mates.

"That was his decision. At the end of the day he wouldn't leave his mates for Dessie Hasler or anybody else.

"It's the bond we have. Dessie, the great man that he is, he didn't make that club everything it was.

"It was a great club before Dessie and the boys there at the moment they made it a great club.

"They made that great culture there. We'll still have that great culture."

Told Manly godfather Ken Arthurson and club legend Max Krilich had launched scathing attacks on Hasler, Watmough was diplomatic.

"They're entitled to their opinion. They've been there. Arko's the Godfather of rugby league so he's one guy who can have an opinion," Watmough said.

"I'm not going to bag Dessie out. I'm not going to tear him down or tear down what he's done.

"He did build a great culture there. But at the end of the day it was the people around him and the boys that were there that helped build that culture."

The Test lock fired a parting shot at all involved at the club when asked about the scenario of having only just been crowned NRL premiers before the boardroom blow-up and Hasler's departure.

"It's pretty disgusting. No one's really ever talked about the grand final since we won it," Watmough said.

"We've worked hard to get back to where we did and then it's all just sort of been up in shambles. There's probably a thousand people you can blame for that.

"The timing of it. It's not just Dessie's fault it's a lot of people's faults and it should have been handled a lot better than what it has."
 

DoggiesBro

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The Base salary at the bulldogs is considerably higher, but with bounses added in it would have been more financial for him to stay at manly.
So to get the bigger money at Manly he would have had to deliver more success, where as at the bulldogs they were prepared to garantee more money irrespective of results, that is the bottom line of it all........


Did you right up the contracts ? :lol:
 

DoggiesBro

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The part that stands out for me is kieran says yes i have a clause, i am contracted to manly for next year and im at manly for next year.

this means more then likely he will stay for 2012 and piss off after.
 

betcats

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No f**ken point speculating about foran now when he has said he''ll be at Manly next season. Everyone here has NFI wat his plans for 2013 are and beyond.
 

Pierced Soul

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bigger concern for the sea eages now is who's gonna run their plays on the field now that toovey wont be allowed on the field?
 

firechild

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No f**ken point speculating about foran now when he has said he''ll be at Manly next season. Everyone here has NFI wat his plans for 2013 are and beyond.

You can't just buy a comp overnight though. The dogs' fans are just excited that they are making a big play to buy a comp, right around the same time that Newcastle are trying to buy one. Who cares about all the bulldogs' staff that are about to get the axe eh? Gotta feel sorry for Dymock. He stood up for what he believed was right during the Super League war but went back to the club he loves. Now he's getting shafted by that very club. Greenberg wouldn't know what ethics were if they slapped him in his face.
 

DoggiesBro

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You can't just buy a comp overnight though. The dogs' fans are just excited that they are making a big play to buy a comp, right around the same time that Newcastle are trying to buy one. Who cares about all the bulldogs' staff that are about to get the axe eh? Gotta feel sorry for Dymock. He stood up for what he believed was right during the Super League war but went back to the club he loves. Now he's getting shafted by that very club. Greenberg wouldn't know what ethics were if they slapped him in his face.


LOL manly fans trying to now blame the dogs for everything. Blame your board you muppet.

Dymock didn't even want to take over for us when Moore left, he has said multiple times he cant wait to work under the best in the business and learn the ropes from Des. He even said that he will step aside if Des comes over early.

Keep trying clown.:lol:

Only people to feel sorry for here is manly fans, due to their board ruining their club.
 

Tommax25

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And you had the hide to question firechild's allegiance? That's disgusting mate.

You should be hoping Toovey is an even more successful coach than De$, and therefore we'll have no need for him to return.

(assuming Manly don't win all four years

I clearly wish Manly more success, all I'm saying is IF Manly can't win every year (and being realistic, they won't, no-one has won even twice in a row for two decades) then I would like a club legend, both on and off the field, to be cemented as one of the all-time greats. I just respect and am grateful for what Des has done, and took umbrage at the disrepect. It's not like I'm going to start following the dogs now.

Obviously, the bolded would be nice but I could say two months ago or so you would have thought hopefully Des will stay forever and we don't need Toovey to eve take over. Also, if he went for less money how can you do the "De$" shit?
 

firechild

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LOL manly fans trying to now blame the dogs for everything. Blame your board you muppet.

Dymock didn't even want to take over for us when Moore left, he has said multiple times he cant wait to work under the best in the business and learn the ropes from Des. He even said that he will step aside if Des comes over early.

Keep trying clown.:lol:

Only people to feel sorry for here is manly fans, due to their board ruining their club.

Learn to read moron. Nowhere have I blamed the dogs for any of this. That does nto change the fact that they are attempting to buy a premiership. Not only are they buying the most recent premiership winning coach, his assistant, the recruitment officer and several other key staff but they are attempting to lure players along with him.

As for Dymock, no doubt he was looking forward to working under Ha$ler but he's now been shafted since the dogs bought Egan who will be De$'s assistant. With the staff coming from Manly, the only job left for Dymock will be the assistant to the bloke that scrubs the dunnies at Belmore.
 

DoggiesBro

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Learn to read moron. Nowhere have I blamed the dogs for any of this. That does nto change the fact that they are attempting to buy a premiership. Not only are they buying the most recent premiership winning coach, his assistant, the recruitment officer and several other key staff but they are attempting to lure players along with him.

As for Dymock, no doubt he was looking forward to working under Ha$ler but he's now been shafted since the dogs bought Egan who will be De$'s assistant. With the staff coming from Manly, the only job left for Dymock will be the assistant to the bloke that scrubs the dunnies at Belmore.


Learn to read? Your the moron calling him ha$ler and de$ yet a manly fan above said how can you say that when he took less, a page back someone quoted des saying himself he took less. your a clown.

as for the rest of your dribble was toovey and egan not under des at manly? why cant dymock and egan be under des with the dogs? dymock has and always will be the assistant coach for now.
 

Rockin Ronny

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You can't just buy a comp overnight though. The dogs' fans are just excited that they are making a big play to buy a comp, right around the same time that Newcastle are trying to buy one. Who cares about all the bulldogs' staff that are about to get the axe eh? Gotta feel sorry for Dymock. He stood up for what he believed was right during the Super League war but went back to the club he loves. Now he's getting shafted by that very club. Greenberg wouldn't know what ethics were if they slapped him in his face.

Stop whining, you Manly turd.

Your shitty club is finally getting some payback - with more to come.

The big question next year is one of degree - namely who will go down in history as the biggest whiner - tooves or dessie?
 

firechild

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Stop whining, you Manly turd.

Your shitty club is finally getting some payback - with more to come.

The big question next year is one of degree - namely who will go down in history as the biggest whiner - tooves or dessie?

Come back when your club is playing in the NRL wonny. You've shown many times that Toovey nor Ha$ler have nothing on you when it comes to whining.
 
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