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Manly - The PRIDE of the league

coolumsharkie

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It's f**king Rugby League. 🏉 Society determines tolerance not sport. At this point in time, society has become pretty inclusive. I'm ok with all that, We need to leave this type of thing out of sport. It's sexuality!! Unless you think it's a disability to be queer, or gender fluid etc?

Cant wait for the bi-polar jersey next week.
 

Marchad

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Let’s say Manly as a club organise to sign their jerseys after a match and donate to a disabled charity. But 7 players publicly refuse and say “I don’t believe disabled people should have the same rights as ‘normal’ people. It’s against my beliefs and I’m not signing it.”

would that be accepted?
Google old man twerks in front of child at a pride parade.
 

Chimp

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Virtue signalling gone wrong for poor old Manly.

These type of gestures for such a complex situation are fraught with risk, as they've just found out. In reality, Manly stood to gain very little by doing the pride shirt (maybe a few shirt sales, but the gay community are hardly going to decide to all become club members because they wore a pride shirt), but they have now caused an uncomfortable situation within their club, and media pressure on their organisation, particularly certain sections - these players will be under intense scrutiny now.

They'd have been better just promoting themselves as entirely inclusive without forcing anything on to the players - they should have known this could cause issue, the Izzy Folau situation should have taught them that. Those players and their religious beliefs are entitled to the same protection and inclusively as the whole LGBTQ folk (whether you agree with their stance or not), but they've just been thrown under a bus (a big politically charged one at that) by their club.

This is wonderful.
 

Stinkfinger

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Virtue signalling gone wrong for poor old Manly.

These type of gestures for such a complex situation are fraught with risk, as they've just found out. In reality, Manly stood to gain very little by doing the pride shirt (maybe a few shirt sales, but the gay community are hardly going to decide to all become club members because they wore a pride shirt), but they have now caused an uncomfortable situation within their club, and media pressure on their organisation, particularly certain sections - these players will be under intense scrutiny now.

They'd have been better just promoting themselves as entirely inclusive without forcing anything on to the players - they should have known this could cause issue, the Izzy Folau situation should have taught them that. Those players and their religious beliefs are entitled to the same protection and inclusively as the whole LGBTQ folk (whether you agree with their stance or not), but they've just been thrown under a bus (a big politically charged one at that) by their club.

This is wonderful.
I thought it was common knowledge that Folou had a good deal of support from Polynesian players, who to a man kept quiet about it, no doubt not wanting to get caught up in the media circus. Whoever made this decision to force this upon the players really should have read the room, like 15 other clubs appear to have.

They should also do some research on indirect discrimination on the grounds of race, because that is what this looks a lot like.
 

Chimp

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I thought it was common knowledge that Folou had a good deal of support from Polynesian players, who to a man kept quiet about it, no doubt not wanting to get caught up in the media circus. Whoever made this decision to force this upon the players really should have read the room, like 15 other clubs appear to have.

They should also do some research on indirect discrimination on the grounds of race, because that is what this looks a lot like.
Exactly where my head was at - it was common knowledge that Folau had plenty of support from the Polynesian players of both RU and RL. Madness that Manly went there - what was meant to be a virtue signalling PR win has absolutely bitten them on the backside and done far more damage than it ever would have done good.
 
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Manly have just dug themselves a hole, regardless of where you stand on the issue. If they backflip and the team doesn’t run onto the park in the jerseys then Manly will cop a beating for not being inclusive and bending to the minority who refuse to move with the times based on an old book of fiction.
Couldn’t all the players wanting to wear the pride jersey do that and all the others who don’t just wear the normal jerseys?
 

Tiger Shark

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I'm torn on this.

On one hand it means Manly lose and their chances of playing finals is shot.

On the other hand it means the Roosters win and their chances of playing finals increase, granted they have a pretty tough draw after this.
 

lolesi

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Unbelievably wild move by Manly to release this new kit without any kind of proper (one would assume) background checks. Very amateur and very rugby league.

every one knew it would be the Polynesian boys who would boycott, that’s no surprises at all. Just look at the Instagram stories / Facebook / Twitter during the mandatory role out of the Covid vaccine.

I’m just glad it wasn’t the sharks - I’d say we would be in the same position as manly atm.
I believe public support from the Polynesian football community will be forthcoming.
 

Mr Angry

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I would sack the lot of them and have the NRL deregister them.

Imagine Joe Average deciding not to show up for work because he does not like the new corporate uniform. The reason for objection is irrelevant.

Find a new employer, I recommend Kickby union.

Farging pander to these spoilt brats and get what you deserve. Sack the lot, go play another sport.
 
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You can't support all of the causes all of the time.
1 jersey is for everyone.
cut the "I'm better than you because I show my support" BS.
It's f**king RL. Seriously.
Stop politicising everything.

No one sees everything eye to eye 100%.
It's human nature.
Stop trying to make it as such. FFS.

Sport is no place for politics.
 
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You can't support all of the causes all of the time.
1 jersey is for everyone.
cut the "I'm better than you because I show my support" BS.
It's f**king RL. Seriously.
Stop politicising everything.

No one sees everything eye to eye 100%.
It's human nature.
Stop trying to make it as such. FFS.

Sport is no place for politics.

Totally agree.

Also a lot of people are sick of being told how they should feel on certain issues.

I don’t care what shyte people believe in, what they like rooting, what they think about vaccines, that your a f**king vegan etc. but don’t force your opinions as being right/correct for the majority of Australia when you are the minority.

There is a good f**king reason why you are the minority.
 
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Doesn’t that contradict the whole idea of what Manly are trying to push? 🤣😂🤣
I don’t think so. I think the support from the players is more powerful when there is the element of choice. I guess on the flipside it is more powerful from a culture perspective of the club says these are the values we espouse and we don’t mind losing a football game to reflect them.
 
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I don’t think so. I think the support from the players is more powerful when there is the element of choice. I guess on the flipside it is more powerful from a culture perspective of the club says these are the values we espouse and we don’t mind losing a football game to reflect them.
WTF man??

The idea of Manly wearing those jerseys is to say we are an all inclusive Club.

Then 7 players run out with the normal jerseys?!!

That would make Manly look so stupid.

Hey I think you’re onto something here. I’m starting to like it………
 
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Totally agree.

Also a lot of people are sick of being told how they should feel on certain issues.

I don’t care what shyte people believe in, what they like rooting, what they think about vaccines, that your a f**king vegan etc. but don’t force your opinions as being right/correct for the majority of Australia when you are the minority.

There is a good f**king reason why you are the minority.
100%

it's the move away from individuality to the collective.
group think.
there's a big drag net out and if you're not getting in you're cancelled.

"we're all in this together".

Okay, "I can't pay my bills because costs are too high. Will you help me"?

"Sorry who are you"?

The world is actually f**king insane.
 

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