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Snoochies

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The problem with krav maga though is alot of techniques are geared toward disarming an attacker, it's generally not a good idea to try it on the street, I've always been told if somebody pulls a gun on you it's more likely you'll get shot if you try something silly.
I've trained abit in jii jitsu (no-gi) and I love it, I think MMA has shown us how effective grappling is against someone trained in the traditional striking styles

They do teach that give what ever the attacker wants and avoid the situation at all costs. The defense they teach is if someone with a knife actually does try and stab you etc. They definitely don't teach to go and try to engage with someone with a knife. Will you avoid being stabbed 10 times out of 10, no but be worth having some knowledge of how to get out of it if you can.
 

Bulldog Force

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If I were to go down that path, I'd chose 2 different ones, rather than one combined. I believe you can study both Seishinteki kyoyo and Taijutsu at the same time.
 

aqua_duck

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They do teach that give what ever the attacker wants and avoid the situation at all costs. The defense they teach is if someone with a knife actually does try and stab you etc. They definitely don't teach to go and try to engage with someone with a knife. Will you avoid being stabbed 10 times out of 10, no but be worth having some knowledge of how to get out of it if you can.

I guess alot of the krav maga I've been exposed to is IDF style disarming people with firearms, etc as opposed to general self defence.
 

Whos Ya Daddy

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Good topic.

My new profession requires some defensive skills so I've been looking into this in recent weeks. Obviously nothing is happening over the Xmas period but in the new year I'll be taking up a discipline.

Out of all that I've looked at it seems that either Wing Chun or Jiu-Jitsu will be suitable to me.

I too would be interested to hear other forumers who have experience in these disciplines.
BJJ/Judo/Sambo.
 

Snoochies

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I guess alot of the krav maga I've been exposed to is IDF style disarming people with firearms, etc as opposed to general self defence.

I think out here it's pointless teaching how to disarm a gun as we don't have a gun culture but knives and glassings are common. But KM being used in the IDF is a myth ^^^^ apparently. :?
 

Bulldog Force

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Good topic.

My new profession requires some defensive skills
so I've been looking into this in recent weeks. Obviously nothing is happening over the Xmas period but in the new year I'll be taking up a discipline.

Out of all that I've looked at it seems that either Wing Chun or Jiu-Jitsu will be suitable to me.

I too would be interested to hear other forumers who have experience in these disciplines.
What exactly is this new profession if you don't mind my asking :eek:
 

Frailty

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In the new year I am starting Muay Thai and BJJ.

Mainly for fitness, but the self-defence aspect is extremely useful.

I've rolled (BJJ) a bit, and it takes a lot of effort without you even thinking about it.
 

Cletus

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I couldn't really tell you which is best to be honest. I know kung fu has a lot of detractors because of its perceived "lack of real world application", but having never tried it I can't really comment. I know Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can be very effective for self defense if you're willing to put the time into learning them. I wouldn't mind trying Aikido either, because Steven Seagal is a beast :D

I've been doing Aikido on and off for the last year. Mainly off with my frequent breakdowns:D. It's really enjoyable and very different to most martial arts, but I really, really wouldn't recommend it for self defence. Maybe if you'd done it for years like Mr Seagal but it is fairly impractical and the throws and locks do work well, but a lot of it is designed around sword fighting and no one punches or kicks at you with something that is actually going to hurt you if you don't block it, and no one will throw a combination. They also don't teach a lot of footwork so it's a lot easier to pick up if you've done another japanese martial art, which a lot of people doing it haven't. Good fun though.
 
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dogslife

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I don't really do them for the self defence aspect of them, rarely do I find myself in situations where someone is taking a swing, I enjoy them for the fitness and fun factors but you gave some good advice there. I know a mate who has done a bit of krav maga which is supposedly really good for self defence
 

Ram Man

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In the new year I am starting Muay Thai and BJJ.

Mainly for fitness, but the self-defence aspect is extremely useful.

I've rolled (BJJ) a bit, and it takes a lot of effort without you even thinking about it.

Most of the time if you are finding something difficult in BJJ, then you are doing it wrong...if proper technique is applied in the right areas, then you shouldnt be using massive amounts of strength to pull it off.

In my gym, we usually spar for 6 minute rounds, but if our instructor wants us to use technique better under fatigue, he will make us roll for 8-12 minutes so you physically cannot use your strength because you are too buckled....thats why they call it the gentle art...

In saying that, it will take around 2-3 years of solid training to get alot of the techniques and when to use them implanted in your brain...and in BJJ, for every move, there is a counter, and a counter to that.
 

Parra

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I was right into Hapkido but injury has seen me sidelined. I would love to take it up again but would still have to overcome long term injury.

I have also done some Taekwondo and it is a good way to go if you want to participate in tournaments.

I preferred the different techniques of Hapkido, which also includes a lot of kicking and striking, including elements that would be illegal in any tournament.

My kids will start with Taekwondo and if they like it move to Hapkido as well when they are older.
 
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if you want the best self defence (not for sport) you need to go to japan and learn from Masaaki Hatsumi himself, this is the closest thing you will get to Ninjutsu.
 

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