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Match Discussion: Round 7 vs Cronulla @ McDonald Jones Stadium, New Lambton / Awabakal

Who will win? Round 7: Newcastle v Cronulla

  • Newcastle Knights 13+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Newcastle Knights 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks 13+

    Votes: 5 100.0%

  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .
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Wests marrying themselves to Adam O'Brien for half a decade (more coming too) for zero reward is 100% a root part of the cause and it'll be difficult to convince me otherwise. He's a dud that got us to play good footy for 10 weeks in 5 years (mainly because Kalyn Ponga caught fire in a rare purple patch).

We keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. He has to go. He won't, but until he does nothing dramatic will change. This is us under O'Brien. This is normal.
It's very hard to judge objectively.

Serious questions though

1) Who in our 17 is ranked in the top 8 in their respective positions?

2) Do you think we have a better roster than the Roosters? Has AOB got more to work with than the Super Coach Robinson?
 
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I watched until 12-0 when it was evident they were getting flogged today. I've never felt so unenthused about the side turning things around. There's much more than just roster issues right now.

So...what next? I honestly have no idea tbh.
 

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It's very hard to judge objectively.

Serious questions though

1) Who in our 17 is ranked in the top 8 in their respective positions?

2) Do you think we have a better roster that the Roosters? Has AOB got more to work with than the Super Coach Robinson?
Honestly I'm just not buying into this argument at all. It's not a cattle problem and AOB defenders over the years have tried to make it about that. Here's some thoughts:

- Good coaches make good players. See: Craig Bellamy.
- Players that leave our club get better elsewhere, with a few exceptions but as a rule this is the case.
- Players that come to our club get worse. Again, not a 100% rule, but a definite trend line. How many recruits have we had that actually got better here in the past 5 years?
- Our football has been horribly ugly during the entirety of AOBs tenure outside of the mythical 10 week period we enjoyed.
- This is the most critical point by far. Even if we don't "have the cattle" - the cattle I do see on the field can play a lot better than they are. A good coach will get whoever he is coaching to play to their potential or close enough to it. Even if that potential is limited. We're not even playing at 10% of our potential. We can't even hold the f**kin ball. Cameron Ciraldo has a team full of discarded utility players at the top of the ladder.

I don't care how good or bad our roster is. It can play better than it is. This is dogshit and it's a familiar brand of dogshit because I've been expected to swallow it for half a f**kin decade now.
 

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