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Matt Dufty

muzby

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Some of the tackles Dufty misses or doesn’t get to (bad positioning) as well as some of his basic mistakes (catching)
are actually on and in his own head.
He has to take ownership of those things and considering the number of games he has now played it is apparent he isn’t making very much if any progress.
So players like Tedesco and Tuivasa-Sheck who have both missed more tackles and made more mistakes than Dufty..

Is it on and in their own heads too?

Are they not making progress?
 

Old Timer

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So players like Tedesco and Tuivasa-Sheck who have both missed more tackles and made more mistakes than Dufty..

Is it on and in their own heads too?

Are they not making progress?
FMD you are a buffoon
You always want to draw people out on irrelevant issues with your statistics that don’t show anything more than raw numbers.
Have a look at the footage of the mistakes Dufty makes and then come back to us and tell us if they are acceptable.
He makes some very very basic errors that invariably put us under extreme pressure.
Re players from other clubs I hope that they all make lots more mistakes especially when we play them but if you think you can draw a comparison between the best of them & Dufty to show Dufty as being on a par with them then you are completely delusional.
Stop reading numbers on websites and start watching as many footy games as you can and you might learn something.
 

muzby

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FMD you are a buffoon
You always want to draw people out on irrelevant issues with your statistics that don’t show anything more than raw numbers.
Have a look at the footage of the mistakes Dufty makes and then come back to us and tell us if they are acceptable.
He makes some very very basic errors that invariably put us under extreme pressure.
Re players from other clubs I hope that they all make lots more mistakes especially when we play them but if you think you can draw a comparison between the best of them & Dufty to show Dufty as being on a par with them then you are completely delusional.
Stop reading numbers on websites and start watching as many footy games as you can and you might learn something.
See we are discussing a football issue but yet you revert to personal insults when you run out of puff..

Folks love to try and point the finger at Dufty saying he shouldn’t be in 1st grade, yet for all the faults that are raised, there are plenty of other fullbacks performing worse, even at clubs that are doing better than us..

If he was one of the worst for errors and missed tackles, yes blame him for our form slump..

But he’s not..
 

Old Timer

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See we are discussing a football issue but yet you revert to personal insults when you run out of puff..

Folks love to try and point the finger at Dufty saying he shouldn’t be in 1st grade, yet for all the faults that are raised, there are plenty of other fullbacks performing worse, even at clubs that are doing better than us..

If he was one of the worst for errors and missed tackles, yes blame him for our form slump..

But he’s not..
No one is blaming him for our form slump especially not me so get that through your thick skull.
We are making observations about what Dufty does during a game of football.
Other players aren't immune from commentary either and there are plenty of posts about plenty of our players and their perceived short comings so Dufty is just another thread not the only thread where players are assessed.
You keep bringing up other fullbacks from other clubs but never once do you address the blatant simple errors Dufty continues to make.
Do you ever watch the games or do you just rely on what people write in the paper and what people post in here?
Do you think Dufty makes simple errors?
Do you think after all the 1st grade games he has played he should do better re the simple errors he continues to make?
If you are so obsessed with saying how his stats are better than Tedesco's are you advocating for Dufty to be the SOO full back if so why so and if not why not?
 

rasaint

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Matt Dufty is an exciting player. His defence is reasonable not good, he makes many good high ball catches but spoils it with some glaring drops.

His kick returns are where he gets targeted due to size.

I think this year our forward pack has not been eating the metres and making as much space for Matt’s speed as last year. Behind Easts, Storm or even Raiders pack this year would be a better gig for a fullback.
 

st.phil

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has great qualities but many crucial lapses - has no consistency in his game. He takes the dummy (aka the easy way out??) every-time. EVERY TIME. He tackled JT cos he did not attempt to pass.

Something not quite right - he seems fragile.

In saying all that - he is the best man for the job until widdop is back... i'd throw norman back there when widdop is back, we miss gareths defence in the line big time
 

Como Connection

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Matt Dufty is an exciting player. His defence is reasonable not good, he makes many good high ball catches but spoils it with some glaring drops.

His kick returns are where he gets targeted due to size.

I think this year our forward pack has not been eating the metres and making as much space for Matt’s speed as last year. Behind Easts, Storm or even Raiders pack this year would be a better gig for a fullback.
The guy is still young remember!
Keeper for me.
CC
 

Old Timer

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The guy is still young remember!
Keeper for me.
CC
Will not improve in our system so if he wants a career the best thing that could happen for him personally is for him to leave.
Our club lacks professionalism and a hard steely edge to it (coach just doesn't have that hardness in him) so players like Dufty, Leilua, Aitken remain immature and under developed.
 

muzby

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No one is blaming him for our form slump especially not me so get that through your thick skull.
Of course not.. That’s why every 2nd team list from our ‘experts’ has him dropped, and why we hear things like signing Turbo will fix us..

And you’ll find the best way for people to grasp concepts us using the eyes and ears as the portal, not the cranium..

Do you think Dufty makes simple errors?
Yes.. But plenty of other fullbacks, including the Dally M medalist, make more.

If you are so obsessed with saying how his stats are better than Tedesco's are you advocating for Dufty to be the SOO full back if so why so and if not why not?
Of course not. Tedesco has a much better passing game than Dufty..

Anyone who watches football can see that.. Do you not watch football?
 
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Fullbacks who have made more errors than Dufty this year (in order, most to least)
  • Moylan
  • Tedesco
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Watene-Zelezniak
Fullbacks who have made the same number of mistakes as Dufty this year:
  • Brimson
  • Ponga

Fullbacks who have missed more tackles than Dufty this year (in order again):
  • Boyd
  • Kahu
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Ponga
  • Brimson
  • Watene-Zelezniak
  • Gordon
  • Moylan
  • Nicoll-Klokstad
  • Tedesco
  • Elliot
And just for OT’s benefit, fullbacks with a worse tackle efficiency than Dufty (top of list is worst missed tackle percentage)
  • Gordon
  • Tedesco
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Watene-Zelezniak
  • Nicol-Klokstad

What about his ball carrying?

Dufty makes more metres per carry than the following fullbacks:
  • Boyd
  • Nicoll-Klokstad
  • Kahu
  • Brimson
  • Moylan
  • Elliot
  • Watene-Zalezniak
  • Drinkwater

Where do you find these awesome stats?
I’d like to have a look too
 

slippery5

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Fullbacks who have made more errors than Dufty this year (in order, most to least)
  • Moylan
  • Tedesco
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Watene-Zelezniak
Fullbacks who have made the same number of mistakes as Dufty this year:
  • Brimson
  • Ponga

Fullbacks who have missed more tackles than Dufty this year (in order again):
  • Boyd
  • Kahu
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Ponga
  • Brimson
  • Watene-Zelezniak
  • Gordon
  • Moylan
  • Nicoll-Klokstad
  • Tedesco
  • Elliot
And just for OT’s benefit, fullbacks with a worse tackle efficiency than Dufty (top of list is worst missed tackle percentage)
  • Gordon
  • Tedesco
  • Tuivasa-Sheck
  • Watene-Zelezniak
  • Nicol-Klokstad

What about his ball carrying?

Dufty makes more metres per carry than the following fullbacks:
  • Boyd
  • Nicoll-Klokstad
  • Kahu
  • Brimson
  • Moylan
  • Elliot
  • Watene-Zalezniak
  • Drinkwater
I think you'll find that if you have fallen for the dummy & not placed a hand on the attacking player, it's not counted as a missed tackle. If that's the case he would be averaging 4 more missed tackles per game.
Anyway enough bagging him, he is only gifted with speed & nothing else. IMO
 

Old Timer

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Of course not.. That’s why every 2nd team list from our ‘experts’ has him dropped, and why we hear things like signing Turbo will fix us..

And you’ll find the best way for people to grasp concepts us using the eyes and ears as the portal, not the cranium..


Yes.. But plenty of other fullbacks, including the Dally M medalist, make more.


Of course not. Tedesco has a much better passing game than Dufty..

Anyone who watches football can see that.. Do you not watch football?
So am I given to understand that the only the difference between Tedesco & Dufty is the passing game?

People are saying Dufty should be dropped because they believe they see better options other than Dufty at FB but that does not equate to them saying they are blaming him for our slump. It just means they think there are better options. Being critical of Dufty's errors in your eyes equates to blaming him for our situation and that is where you are wrong and get some people off side.

Looking at all the FB's in the comp where do you rate them and if given the chance would you swap Dufty for any of them and if so why?
 

Carlton

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Matt Dufty is an exciting player. His defence is reasonable not good, he makes many good high ball catches but spoils it with some glaring drops.

His kick returns are where he gets targeted due to size.

I think this year our forward pack has not been eating the metres and making as much space for Matt’s speed as last year. Behind Easts, Storm or even Raiders pack this year would be a better gig for a fullback.

Sorry his defence is not reasonable, he appears to avoid being in position to defend. He misses many high balls and does not clean up grubbers.

Matts speed advantage is a myth, he is fast but there are a number of players quicker than him. The difference is they are also physical, Dufty doesn't pull through tackles, he mostly runs sideways and tries to get around the defence and then goes to ground when a defender gets near him.

The forwards have nothing to do with kick return meters by the fullback, he is not physically up to first grade and no amount of coaching is going to fix the fear factor.
 

muzby

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People are saying Dufty should be dropped because they believe they see better options other than Dufty at FB but that does not equate to them saying they are blaming him for our slump. It just means they think there are better options. Being critical of Dufty's errors in your eyes equates to blaming him for our situation and that is where you are wrong and get some people off side.
Ahem..

Where we are placed on the ladder is only a part of the problem. How our team is performing and the selections / bench management by the coach and the lack of a decent back 3 and still no replacement for De Belin will all ensure our season is done.
Our back three are terrible and a big reason why we are the position we are in.

That’s just the first couple I picked up..
 

Como Connection

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Will not improve in our system so if he wants a career the best thing that could happen for him personally is for him to leave.
Our club lacks professionalism and a hard steely edge to it (coach just doesn't have that hardness in him) so players like Dufty, Leilua, Aitken remain immature and under developed.
A bit like myself but a lot older!
CC
 

Crush

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I'd like to apologise to Matt Dufty for reigniting this post after a one month hiatus, but, I felt it was my duty.LOL
This place is so fickle all it will take is one good game and everyone will be talking about how awesome Dufty is.
Look at Ravalawa! He had 1 or 2 good games and he's a lock for everyones starting wing position. 4 weeks ago Ravalawa was the laughingstock.
Dufty can make the 1 spot his own in the next 3 or 4 weeks if he is good enough.
Unfortunately though for him Dragons are going to get pumped tomorrow night and I'm sure it will be all Duftys fault.
 

Old Timer

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Ahem..




That’s just the first couple I picked up..
Why don’t you just answer the legitimate questions you are asked?
You want to get up people for their point of view but as usual deflect when questions are asked of you.
All the time you ask people for clarification, substantiation etc etc but mostly never do you respond to things put to you.
So far re Dufty you have him as the Australian back up FB because the only difference between Dufty & Tedesco according to you is their passing game and in fact you have Dufty in front of him in all other disciplines relating to the position.
 

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