Melbourne Cup

[Sphagnum]

Don't like tha barrier for Hawkspur but love the fact Zoustar won so Cassidy has the monkey off his back. At least three of these international 'superstars' will be plodders who knock over genuine winning chances when they can't keep up at the 1000m. Happens every year.

 

[Moffo]

No Moriarty is rubbish

 

[lockyno1]

Don't like tha barrier for Hawkspur but love the fact Zoustar won so Cassidy has the monkey off his back. At least three of these international 'superstars' will be plodders who knock over genuine winning chances when they can't keep up at the 1000m. Happens every year.

Isn't an ideal barrier but it isn't that bad, it is a long race so the barriers don't matter as much. Every horse would rather a barrier under 12 but this year I don't feel the barriers will win the race.

 

[Moffo]

Mt athos is gornnnnnn with that barrier

 

[veggiepatch1959]

Mt athos is gornnnnnn with that barrier

Mount Athos could have drawn inside of barrier 12 and still wouldn't run a place. Its had 4 starts over 3200m and beyond and still yet to run a place.

Verdict: Overrated nag.

 

[Moffo]

I don't disagree

This is one hard to pick race. I might just go with Verema, won the same lead up as red cadeueax from memory so not a bad form line. I think there are 12 realistic chances though

The first two I'm scratching are ibicenco and side glance. Massively favoured by how their lead up races were run...will not feature. Jet away was poor yesterday as well so out he goes, won't recover by Tuesday from that

 

[Sphagnum]

Side glance and Jetaway aren't in the field. Pretty astute tipping saying they can't win...

 

[Sphagnum]

http://www.racenet.com.au/news/94826/2013-Melbourne-Cup-–-The-field-and-barrier-draw

No.
Horse
Trainer
Jockey
Barrier
Weight
1
DUNADEN (FR)
Mikel Delzangles
Jamie Spencer
1
58.5kg
2
GREEN MOON (IRE)
Robert Hickmott
Brett Prebble
10
57.5kg
3
RED CADEAUX (GB)
Ed Dunlop
Gerald Mosse
23
56.5kg
4
SEA MOON (GB)
Robert Hickmott
Steven Arnold
7
56.5kg
5
BROWN PANTHER (GB)
Tom Dascombe
Richard Kingscote
6
55kg
6
FIORENTE (IRE)
Gai Waterhouse
Damien Oliver
5
55kg
7
FORETELLER (GB)
Chris Waller
Craig Newitt
15
55kg
8
DANDINO (GB)
Marco Botti
Ryan Moore
4
54.5kg
9
ETHIOPIA
Pat Carey
Rhys McLeod
14
54.5kg
10
FAWKNER
Robert Hickmott
Nick Hall
8
54.5kg
11
MOURAYAN (IRE)
Robert Hickmott
Brenton Avdulla
19
54.5kg
12
SEVILLE (GER)
Robert Hickmott
Hugh Bowman
9
54.5kg
13
SUPER COOL
Mark Kavanagh
Corey Brown
13
54.5kg
14
MASKED MARVEL (GB)
Robert Hickmott
Michael Rodd
2
54kg
15
MOUNT ATHOS (IRE)
Luca Cumani
Craig Williams
22
54kg
16
ROYAL EMPIRE (IRE)
Saeed Bin Suroor
Kerrin McEvoy
11
54kg
17
VOLEUSE DE COEURS (IRE)
Michael Moroney
James McDonald
21
54kg
18
HAWKSPUR
Chris Waller
Jim Cassidy
18
53.5kg
19
SIMENON (IRE)
William Mullins
Richard Hughes
12
53.5kg
20
IBICENCO (GER)
Peter G Moody
Luke Nolen
17
53kg
21
VEREMA (FR)
Alain de Royer Dupre
Christophe Lemaire
3
53kg
22
DEAR DEMI
Clarry Conners
Chris Munce
16
51kg
23
TRES BLUE (IRE)
Gai Waterhouse
Tommy Berry
20
51kg
24
RUSCELLO (IRE)
Ed Walker
Chad Schofield
24
50kg

 

[Moffo]

Side glance and Jetaway aren't in the field. Pretty astute tipping saying they can't win...

Haha I hadn't looked at the final field...just assumed

What do we all think of super cool...can it run the distance out at this level?

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Des Hasler can run the 3200m Moffo

 

[Moffo]

But he's a merkin!

 

[lockyno1]

Haha I hadn't looked at the final field...just assumed

What do we all think of super cool...can it run the distance out at this level?

Dstance shouldn't be an issue, well bred and well trained. Whether the horse is as classy as the others is my question, but jeez this year is the hardest race in years.

 

[Rebel]

Super cool is my pick at juicy odds.

 

[ek999]

What's everyones thoughts on Brown Panther? Won the Goodwood Cup in the UK in August over the same distance with Mt Athos in the field carrying about 61.5kg so the distance and weight won't bother him. Got a good barrier draw too

 

[veggiepatch1959]

Melbourne Cup Fact No. 129

Out of the 67 international horses who have run the Melbourne Cup without having a previous Australian racetrack start, only Vintage Crop (1993) has won.

Out of the other 66, only three have ran a place, Fiorente (2012) being the last.

 

[lockyno1]

What's everyones thoughts on Brown Panther? Won the Goodwood Cup in the UK in August over the same distance with Mt Athos in the field carrying about 61.5kg so the distance and weight won't bother him. Got a good barrier draw too

Needs a heavy/slow track, doubt he'll get it. Definately one to include in your first 4's though.

 

[MrAnonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w4h2fJg6d4

Will piss it in

 

[Parra]

It's all about the trifecta.

Best betting pool of the year.

 

[Someone]

cheeky 5 bucks on box trifecta of Fiorente, Foreteller and Sea moon.

 

[lockyno1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w4h2fJg6d4

Will piss it in

Not sold on it- only because it needs conditions. On a dry track there are probably others I prefer. Definately in my exotics.