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Which Big 4 is better?

  • Broncos

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • Storms

    Votes: 29 82.9%

  • Total voters
    35

simostorm

Bench
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The NRL will not get anywhere near the AFL deal. Its not worth as much. The AFL telecasts on free to air run for longer periods of time then the NRL's.
And during a AFL game after each goal is scored they goto a commerical.. there is a ton more commercials during a AFL game then NRL.

in 2009 AFL had 195,069,000 cumulative hours viewed, and the NRL 80,546,000.
 

docbrown

Coach
Messages
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The NRL will not get anywhere near the AFL deal. Its not worth as much. The AFL telecasts on free to air run for longer periods of time then the NRL's.
And during a AFL game after each goal is scored they goto a commerical.. there is a ton more commercials during a AFL game then NRL.

in 2009 AFL had 195,069,000 cumulative hours viewed, and the NRL 80,546,000.

Do you have a source for those numbers, given that AFL games are repeated on three channels in re-broadcast and NRL games are currenty not repeated? Are those original first run broadcast hours?

Part of the next NRL TV will be to add another FTA game and have a pay TV simulcast plus Digital Channel repeat.

In reality the ratio should be 2:3, which is why I suspect those numbers include re-broadcast material. Given that the AFL broadcast length is likely to be reduced to 2 1/2 hours in the near future, that discrepency is not as large as you might think. The hook will also be the expansion teams. AFL will have 9 games, the NRL is currently undecided on that.

The key here is digital channel broadcast. On a 5 city to 2 city ratings basis, AFL just edges out NRL head to head. However, on a National Basis including pay and FTA the NRL is ahead. Given that expansion teams and a five city FTA broadcast will only add to that, the NRL will definitely be closing the gap.
 

applesauce

Bench
Messages
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The NRL will not get anywhere near the AFL deal. Its not worth as much. The AFL telecasts on free to air run for longer periods of time then the NRL's.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,27475159-5018851,00.html

Mmmmmm....

And during a AFL game after each goal is scored they goto a commerical.. there is a ton more commercials during a AFL game then NRL.

Massive myth!

We have the Harvey Norman Video Ref, Holden halftime, Bundy Friday night footy, Keno Super Saturday, Home hardware Sunday arvo footy, more on field advertising (on grass, sidelines, goal posts, corner posts), advertising on-screen during play, Brut big hits, more advertising on jerseys (including refs).

We only have 1 Live game on FTA the other 2 are delayed and have 3-4ads back to back every 10mins (about the same rate as AFL goals).

The live game (Friday 7:30 EST) is during true Prime Time (unlike the AFL's) so the advertising is worth more to the advertisers and the networks.

In 2009 AFL had 195,069,000 cumulative hours viewed, and the NRL 80,546,000.

Those numbers do not include NZ and do not count SOO or Tests. You can have more viewing hours than anyone but if they are shown in the middle of the night (not prime time) or have poor ratings (so advertising is charged at a premium) the AFL networks are not necessarily making the same money as NRL.

Ten is making huge losses having to show games live in prime time on Saturdays into Syd and Bris but can't charge top dollar for advertising because it doesn't rate.

False economy mate, more doesn't always mean better.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
Messages
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The NRL will not get anywhere near the AFL deal. Its not worth as much. The AFL telecasts on free to air run for longer periods of time then the NRL's.
And during a AFL game after each goal is scored they goto a commerical.. there is a ton more commercials during a AFL game then NRL.

in 2009 AFL had 195,069,000 cumulative hours viewed, and the NRL 80,546,000.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...utrates-afl-for-first-time-20091220-l7i3.html

We will fight them on the couches: league outrates AFL for first time
ROY MASTERS
December 22, 2009

While officials squabble and threaten to divide rugby league, the fans have delivered an early Christmas present: TV ratings have eclipsed AFL nationally for the first time. This year, rugby league had an aggregate audience of 128.5 million compared with AFL's 124.3 million.

The figures are revealed in an NRL-commissioned study shown to the club CEOs earlier this month, Admittedly, it's not an apples-with-apples comparison: league figures include Origin and rep games (12,024,381 viewers) and the under-20s Toyota Cup competition (3,450,252), which AFL does not have, although the AFL figures include the pre-season NAB Cup (7,642,000).

In terms of a straight comparison between the aggregate TV audience of the eight games each week in each code on both free-to-air and pay TV, the AFL wins 116,612,478 to the NRL's 112,980,474, an impressive result considering the AFL season is shorter by two weeks. However, AFL has four games on free-to-air TV (99,087,689) compared with the NRL's three (83,149,231), an important factor considering 99 per cent of Australian homes have free-to-air sets, while only 33 per cent of homes subscribe to pay TV where five NRL games are shown to the AFL's three.

Rugby league, therefore, wins the pay TV comparison, with 32.7m viewers to AFL's 17.5m, despite being paid less by Foxtel.

Significantly, the NRL's ratings are on the rise while AFL's are falling. A comparison of national ratings for the respective premierships of the two codes between 2008 and 2009 shows NRL improving by 6.2 per cent and AFL falling by 4.3 per cent.

This reflects the ''any given Sunday'' expectation in the NRL, in which a bottom-ranked team can defeat a top club, meaning all games are competitive, compared with the AFL, in which Richmond, Melbourne and even Fremantle are occasional easybeats.

The mini trend also questions the AFL's expansion into the Gold Coast and western Sydney, bringing to five the number of teams which might not be competitive over the next decade. By contrast, the NRL has rejected expansion, seeking to capitalise on its rising numbers.

The AFL justifies its move to the Gold Coast and western Sydney because the two northern states generate 60 per cent of advertising dollars on TV, but this might not translate to rights fees if ratings are poor.

The AFL's strength is it is a truly national game, reflected in five capital-city audience numbers, while rugby league's strength is the loyalty of regional viewers.

On a five-capital-city comparison, AFL wins 77m to rugby league's 58.3m, while the AFL's regional aggregate audience is 22.1m to rugby league's 36.7m.

This raises the possibility of a new independent commission running rugby league instructing chief executive David Gallop to sell games direct to regional networks, such as WIN and Prime.

Sydney, often accused of lethargy in supporting rugby league with crowd and audience numbers, has had a lift in its ratings by 12 per cent on 2008, while Brisbane also boasts an impressive 13.5 per cent rise.

Channel Nine's policy of flipping Friday night games, putting a Sydney game on in prime time in the south and a Queensland game in the north, and reversing them at 9.30pm, has improved numbers, together with the Titans' impressive 2009 season.

Gallop said: ''The numbers are testimony to our pursuit of a close competition. The value of an additional team in South-East Queensland has given us the ability to flip-flop the Friday night game, while the freakish skills of our players has also driven the ratings rise. We can't wait to get to the negotiating table because a lucrative TV deal will surely be just compensation for these numbers.''

Melbourne has increased its NRL audience by 4.4 per cent, not surprising given the Storm's stellar play but a shock to all those Victorian fans who have to endure Channel Nine's cruel treatment.

Channel Nine Melbourne endemically insists on programming NRL at hours when only insomniacs abound, and cannot reach agreement with Fox Sports to release the Friday night games shown in Sydney and Brisbane to pay TV, in the same way AFL is shown in the north on Foxtel.

While rugby league's Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne figures are up and regionals constant, the AFL has suffered a worrying fall in Sydney and a dip in Brisbane, the metropolitan areas where they are seeking to build support with new teams. Sydney's numbers have dropped a massive 19.5 per cent, Brisbane's 1.5 per cent, and regionals are down 13.4 per cent.

With the Swans in a transition period during which their stars have retired and they are unable to access top draft choices, Sydney's audience is expected to decline further.

A comparison of 2009 aggregate premiership ratings, by city, for the two codes, shows the loyalty of Melbourne to AFL. Melbourne had 38,125,568 AFL viewers to Sydney's 28,095,299 NRL viewers, a gap of 10 million despite Sydney's population being one million more.

While this reflects the status of AFL in Melbourne, a code equivalent to a secular religion, it also demonstrates the divide in Sydney with the two rugby codes. That should be a sobering thought to the lunatics seeking to further divide rugby league.
 

simostorm

Bench
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Do you have a source for those numbers, given that AFL games are repeated on three channels in re-broadcast and NRL games are currenty not repeated? Are those original first run broadcast hours?

Part of the next NRL TV will be to add another FTA game and have a pay TV simulcast plus Digital Channel repeat.

In reality the ratio should be 2:3, which is why I suspect those numbers include re-broadcast material. Given that the AFL broadcast length is likely to be reduced to 2 1/2 hours in the near future, that discrepency is not as large as you might think. The hook will also be the expansion teams. AFL will have 9 games, the NRL is currently undecided on that.

The key here is digital channel broadcast. On a 5 city to 2 city ratings basis, AFL just edges out NRL head to head. However, on a National Basis including pay and FTA the NRL is ahead. Given that expansion teams and a five city FTA broadcast will only add to that, the NRL will definitely be closing the gap.
wont let me post the link.. goodgle tv rights afl vs nrl inthe talking footy forum second from top in google search. artcile from Daniel Green
 
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simostorm

Bench
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A comparison of 2009 aggregate premiership ratings, by city, for the two codes, shows the loyalty of Melbourne to AFL. Melbourne had 38,125,568 AFL viewers to Sydney's 28,095,299 NRL viewers, a gap of 10 million despite Sydney's population being one million more.

from the link that El Blowshimself linked... wow.. what is wrong with you sydtards.. Maybe They should relocate the Sharks, Manly, Dogs to country NSW towns instead of Perth, Adelaise etc etc..
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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wont let me post the link.. goodgle tv rights afl vs nrl inthe talking footy forum second from top in google search. artcile from Daniel Green

noted AFL webtard

posts here under mikeo and Dan26 at bigpoofy

a nuffy who has admitted to making up figures as he doesn't get them all

i'll take Masters over the AFL webtard
 

simostorm

Bench
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noted AFL webtard

posts here under mikeo and Dan26 at bigpoofy

a nuffy who has admitted to making up figures as he doesn't get them all

i'll take Masters over the AFL webtard

nice little sprayback there :lol::lol:

If thats the case.. then good.. im glad he's way off the plot.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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Did you parents beat you with Storm merchandise when you were a kid? :lol::lol:

No I was born well before the Storm were created. But you, you must have been conceived by Storm merchandise, not only does it explain your obvious bias but also the intellect of your posts. Knew you couldn't be older then 12.
 
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:lol::lol::lol: related to the the SCG comment that was a sarcastic joke aimed at you ppl in sydney who clutch at any excuse for poor attendance at games. One of them being sometimes yous have to change Trains.. :lol:
Jokes on you idiot.

That's your excuse? How is it even remotely close to being a joke when both games this year got similar crowds?
 

adamkungl

Immortal
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simostorm takes the early lead in the LU downs race... Hayntrain and gaba with some catch up to do if they want to win this one
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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simostorm takes the early lead in the LU downs race... Hayntrain and gaba with some catch up to do if they want to win this one

Most open competition yet, we still have dollyhands making waves and isaiah is still around.

I wonder what category ClintDogg would be in?
 

simostorm

Bench
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What?? All the noses ive been turning up lately.. surely you lazy sydtards who probally arnt members and watch the games on tv can rank me as number 1. It would be disgraceful if i wasnt.
 

boxhead

First Grade
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What?? All the noses ive been turning up lately.. surely you lazy sydtards who probally arnt members and watch the games on tv can rank me as number 1. It would be disgraceful if i wasnt.

Exact word I was thinking of.
What the f**k are you going on about?
 
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