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NBA Off-Season / Summer 2010

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McLovin

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Well to be fair, Tmac was fugged by injuries and whatnot. Injuries destroyed his career, not his mental approach...
 

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LeBron James has been very active in his attempts to recruit players to come play for the Heat.
"LeBron has done more recruiting in the last five days than he did in the last three years," said one Western Conference executive.
James acted like a bystander during most of his time with the Cavaliers, most notably declining to give a commitment to free agent Trevor Ariza during the summer of 2009.


Big Z?

Michael Jordan's reluctance to approve a trade of Tyson Chandler and Boris Diaw to the Raptors for Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans has stalled a proposed three-way deal, sources told Yahoo! Jordan, sources said, has been hesitant to trade Chandler.
The players involved were notified of the trade on Monday, but they are now on ice.
The Raptors will send Hedo Turkoglu to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa, regardless of how the separate component plays out.

Poor Raptors fans haha

And I think T-Mac is done. He might get the MLE at some desperate team but he is done at 31. I've read the Lakers are looking at him for their bench. I don't know if he fits in there.. I mean the Lakers win play off games and he doesn't.I think he is in the middle of the AI fall from grace
 
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McLovin

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lol remember his early 2010 guarantee that he'll be a 'better' player than he was when he was with the Magic...
 

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Was hoping LA would go after Morrow. Sure he can't do much else apart from shoot 3s, but his awesomeness from downtown would be exemplified in LA. Alas he is at the Nets.

No surprise that MJ would be reluctant. Raptors would easily be getting the better end of the trade.
 

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Absolutely. Both guys should've been better, for longer. T-Mac to a degree has had his injury problems so I don't dislike him as much as Vince, but I'm not a fan of either.
lol i think your taking it a bit far, they could of been better but none would of been as good as Kobe, his overall skill set is just ridiculous.
 

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Lol

The proposed three-way trade between the Toronto Raptors, Phoenix Suns and Charlotte Bobcatssending Toronto's Hedo Turkoglu to Phoenix is a two-team trade again, as the Bobcats have pulled out of the deal, according to NBA front-office sources.

After the Raptors and Suns agreed Sunday to a trade that would send Turkoglu to Phoenix, Charlotte agreed Monday to join the deal by sending Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler to Toronto in exchange for Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans.

Sources close to the situation said Tuesday that two main factors led the Bobcats to pull out: Calderon has a 10-percent trade bonus in his contract in addition to the $29 million remaining on the deal over the next three seasons; and Charlotte coach Larry Brown was never in favor of the trade.

Yahoo! Sports reported Monday night that Bobcats owner Michael Jordan had "second thoughts" about adding Chandler to the trade, after both Chandler and Evans said publicly that they had been informed by their respective teams that the deal was going through.

The National Post in Canada, quoting "a source knowledge of the trade," reported Tuesday on its website that the deal was "likely dead" but said the source had "not given up hope that the deal could be revived."

The original transaction called for the Raptors to acquire Leandro Barbosa and one other low-dollar contract in exchange for Turkoglu, who has grown disgruntled in Toronto. That was the first step of the Suns' two-trade plan to fill the void created by the free-agent departure of Amare Stoudemire, with the Suns also agreeing to a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for former Hawks swingman Josh Childress.

It was not immediately known how the Raptors intended to proceed if the deal for Chandler and Diaw can't be revived, since they were counting on both players to claim the minutes left behind by Chris Bosh's free-agent exit to Miami.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5376800
 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-jazz-timberwolvestrade

MINNEAPOLIS (AP)?The Minnesota Timberwolves have agreed to send power forward Al Jefferson(notes) to the Utah Jazz for two future first-round draft picks and a salary-cap trade exception, a person with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the deal had not yet been officially announced.

Jefferson averaged 17.1 points and 9.3 rebounds last season for the Timberwolves in his first year back from a major knee injury in February 2009. He will help fill a void in Utah created when Carlos Boozer(notes) went to Chicago.
Jefferson came to the Timberwolves in 2007 as the main cog in the blockbuster deal that sent Kevin Garnett(notes) to Boston. He averaged 23.1 points and 11 rebounds in the 50 games before he was injured in 2009.

Utah gained the traded player exception, which provides salary cap relief, in the sign-and-trade deal that sent Boozer to Chicago. Utah GM Kevin O?Connor declined to comment when reached by phone on Tuesday.

The deal marks a complete and final break from the Kevin McHale-Kevin Garnett era in Minnesota. Garnett is the lone star the Timberwolves have ever had, spending 12 years in the Twin Cities and leading the Wolves to the Western Conference finals in 2004.

But as the years wore on, McHale, the former coach and GM, decided to cut ties with Garnett in 2007 and rebuild. He sent KG to Boston for Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair(notes), Ryan Gomes(notes), Gerald Green(notes), Theo Ratliff(notes) and two draft picks in a blockbuster deal that helped the Celtics helped form the bedrock of a team that has reached the NBA finals in two of the last three years.

Jefferson was the last remaining player from that deal. McHale fell in love with Jefferson?s footwork and wide array of low-post moves, the kind of old-school, back-to-the-basket game that worked so well for McHale in his Boston days. Things looked promising at the outset, with Jefferson signing a five-year, $65 million contract and averaging 21.0 points and 11.1 rebounds in his first season in Minnesota. He was pushing for the All-Star team in his second season, dominating offensively when he tore ligaments in his right knee in the final game before the break in New Orleans. It?s been a slow, steady climb back for Jefferson, one that will have to continue in Utah.

The Jazz needed to make a move after losing Boozer (five years, $75 million) and Kyle Korver(notes) (three years, $15 million) to the Bulls, two defections that will certainly make things more challenging for point guard Deron Williams(notes).

Jefferson, who played center for most of last season with the Timberwolves, will fortify the front line and give Williams a legitimate and reliable threat on the low block to take some of the defensive pressure off of him on the perimeter.

Utah orchestrated a sign-and-trade with the Bulls for Boozer so they could get some $14 million in a trade exception for a deal just like the one they have agreed to with Minnesota. Jefferson has three years and $42 million left on his contract.

The Jazz will send Minnesota the conditional first-round pick it got from Memphis in the Ronnie Brewer(notes) trade plus a future first-rounder.

Thought the Mavs were the favs with their Dampier contract, but I guess the Boozer trade exception was just as good. Plus Minny didn't have to take back any contracts, which is what I think the Mavericks wanted them to do.

Not sure how a slow low-post scorer is going to fit in to a high motion offense. Will be interesting. Big Al should be better now that he's a season away from ACL surgery.
 
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Thought the Mavs were the favs with their Dampier contract, but I guess the Boozer trade exception was just as good. Plus Minny didn't have to take back any contracts, which is what I think the Mavericks wanted them to do.

Not sure how a slow low-post scorer is going to fit in to a high motion offense. Will be interesting. Big Al should be better now that he's a season away from ACL surgery.

thats big, i thought dallas would get him for sure
 

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Bobcats wtf are they thinking? That deal is worse than the raptor one..

I like it for the mavs even though they just paid up for Haywood. They now have one of the best 5 rotations in the league and Chandler is a nice rental in a contract year.
 

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t-mac's name has now been mentioned as a possibility for the lakers and heat, A.I to the heat is gathering momentum as well
 

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Report: Ilgauskas to sign with Miami Heat


Posted Jul 13 2010 4:08PM
MIAMI (AP) -- Zydrunas Ilgauskas is following LeBron James to the Miami Heat.

The veteran center, who started playing for Cleveland in 1997 and has never suited up for another NBA team, expects to sign a two-year contract for $2.8 million with the Heat later this week, agent Herb Rudoy said Tuesday. The two-year deal would come with a player option for the second season, Rudoy said.

``We've agreed to agree,'' Rudoy said.

The Heat had no immediate comment. They had talks about acquiring Ilgauskas when he was available this past season after being dealt in a three-team trade to Washington. The Wizards subsequently bought out his contract and made him a free agent.

Ilgauskas is the Cavs' career leader in games played, blocked shots and rebounds. The 7-foot-3 Lithuanian was drafted by the club in 1996 and overcame serious foot injuries that nearly ended his career.

He's just the latest name to join what shapes up as a serious title contender in Miami, joining not only James but Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller, who agreed to a deal late last week that remains unsigned.

"I don't think if LeBron weren't there, this would be happening." Rudoy said. "His best chance to win a championship would be in Miami,''
Ilgauskas told Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and general manager Chris Grant the news on Tuesday. James played a role in luring Ilgauskas to Miami, and other teams were interested as well.

Ilgauskas was immensely popular in Cleveland, and expects to keep a home in the city.

``It's hard,'' Rudoy said. ``It's been 14 years. It was very hard for him. I know that. When he called Chris Grant and Dan Gilbert today, it was definitely a hard decision at this stage of his career. But he wants to win a championship. That's how he made this decision.''

Playing as a reserve for the first time, Ilgauskas averaged 7.4 points and 5.4 rebounds last season. For his career, Ilgauskas has averaged 13.8 points and 7.7 rebounds, plus has played in two All-Star

TNT Analyst David Aldridge contributed to this story.

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/07/13/ilgauskas.heat/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
 

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Cleveland fans offer to help Gilbert pay fine


Posted Jul 13 2010 7:12PM


CLEVELAND (AP) -- Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert has more fans and friends than he ever knew.

His emotional, controversial letter criticizing LeBron James for leaving to join Miami spawned an outpouring of fan support for Gilbert. A team spokesman said the team has received thousands of e-mails and phone calls, including some from fans offering to help Gilbert pay a $100,000 NBA-imposed fine.

Last week, Gilbert fired off his incendiary letter, ripping James' decision as "a shameful display of selfishness and betrayal." He called the MVP "narcissistic" and "self-promotional" and vowed that his Cavaliers would win a championship before "the self-titled former king."

Apparently, the message was just what the spurned fans of Cleveland wanted to hear.

Commissioner David Stern wasn't as pleased.

He fined Gilbert on Monday, calling the letter and comments Gilbert later made in an interview with The Associated Press that he felt James quit in the playoffs the past two seasons "a little extreme."

On Tuesday, some Cleveland fans offered to pitch in to help Gilbert pay the penalty. Gilbert issued a statement of thanks.

"The humbling offer by so many is another reflection of the strength of Cavs fans and the people who live and work in this region and are always the first to step up and have each other's back," Gilbert said. "I will pay this fine myself, but would be grateful and highly appreciative for any fan who redirects the dollars they kindly offered to contribute towards this fine to the Cavaliers Youth Fund, which will positively impact our region's kids through the numerous local charitable groups the Cavaliers Youth Fund supports."
 

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lol i think your taking it a bit far, they could of been better but none would of been as good as Kobe, his overall skill set is just ridiculous.
Try watching tape of T-Mac during his Orlando days. If you honestly feel that his skill-set wasn't superior to Kobe's at that time, you're crazy. More consistent shooter, better rebounder, better passer etc. Injuries played a part, but he could have been one of the greats.
 

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Looks like AJ Ogilvy (Bulls) and Nathan Jawai (Cav's) haven't gotten much of a run at their respective summer league teams today.

Here's hoping they play a bigger part in coming matches.
 
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